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First Post-Speech Poll Shows Bounce For Obama On Economy

CBS News is first out the gate with a survey testing the reactions to the Sort-of-State-of-the-Union speech, with a Web-based poll by Knowledge Networks showing respondents' views of Obama before and after the speech.

The first number out so far: 62% of speech-watchers before the speech approved of President Obama's plans for dealing with the economy. Afterwards, the number increased to 79%.

But this one is the biggie: Before the speech, only 35% thought Obama's economic plans would personally help them. After the speech, that number jumped up to 52%.

Note that the increase in the number of people who thought Obama's plans would help them was the exact same number as the increase in those who approved of his policies.


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GOP is in trouble. We've seen for months now Obama does well everytime he has some face-to-face time with the people.

He can use his bully pulpit, exploit primetime slots and free time as President.

Obama with vast access to American people is not good news for the GOP.

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yep. It's the rope-a-dope all over again. Just stands by smiling while the GOP tire themselves out, then delivers the KO with a smile. Though to be fair, it's somewhat fated with laissez faire having fully run its course, again.

When Obama goes Gandhi the GOP copes about as well as the British Empire. They just don't get it, don't see it coming, and can't understand why they keep losing. Out of touch.

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They plan on taking back at least the House in 2010, Kash. Gingrich is pumped, thinks he's got the secret: obstruct in umbrage.

You saying it isn't looking good for them?

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Agreed, everytime he makes a speech to the American people in prime time his numbers jump. If he uses his speaking skills to promote his agenda then the people will love him. H just has to make sure his agendas follow through and actually help the people who are inspired by his speeches otherwise people will start ignoring him.

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Eric:

Will we have any numbers of Jindal? I want to know how many freaked out...he was creepy

Repost on Jindal:

The way he walked from a dark corner, turned into the room and towards the Camera- it seemed like a Zombie walking into your living room.

Worst optics possible.

I'm not surprised C.Matthews on MSNBC reacted with a OMG!!!

I don't care about politics, man needs to put on some beef on his bone before its too late...rest of the Jindals must be worried.

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This will be remembered as Obama giving a great speech and Jindal being Kenneth the Page.

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That's exactly what Nate said over at 538. He added that tonight's big GOP winner was Mike Huckabee. Personally I don't hear the Kenneth resemblance...but I haven't seen the show, I just caught a clip of random scenes with him over at the Atlantic's daily dish.

Anyway, I was pretty amazed by his lack of ability. Given all the hype I've heard about this guy, I really expected a good speech (even if I knew I wouldn't agree with it). I mean, the Republicans think this guy is so much better than everybody else that it might overcome his ethnicity in a GOP primary! And then he comes off with this terrible delivery and weak old arguments. There wasn't anything new at all...just the same old crappy talking points we've been hearing for weeks. The public hated them the first time, and I'm sure they weren't thrilled this time either. And even the cable talkers have figured out that there's no maglev to Vegas in the stimulus bill.

Wait, scratch that...there was one new thing: "the government can't fix the economy; look how they messed up Katrina." Holy moly...what was he thinking? Not only is it just plain stupid for any Republican to bring that subject up, but in this context it's particularly boneheaded. The public has long since decided that the failure in Katrina was one of inaction, and he goes and uses it as an example of why we should have inaction. Wild.

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Go watch it on Huffpo, he sounds EXACTLY like him.

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"The public has long since decided that the failure in Katrina was one of inaction, and he goes and uses it as an example of why we should have inaction. Wild."

Right. My head exploded. Only thing I'd add, it was of course inaction under a Republican Administration who was staunchly anti-government, pro-privatization, Blackwater, ENRON, Hallibuton, etc.

Now we have Jindal clearly contrasting himself from Bush by promising anti-government inaction, done right! No, really this time!

Next he's gonna start praising WALMART's bottled water delivery to flooded NOLA, as an example of free market efficiency replacing government programs. It's truly mind boggling.

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Yes, that was wild. I mean, what was Jindal suggesting as an alternative to Bush's botched response - no response at all, ever? Katrina didn't prove that government doesn't work, it proved that REPUBLICAN led government doesn't work.

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And of course -- I know you'll be shocked, shocked to learn this -- he lied. FactCheck.org gives the smackdown on the Republican lies regarding the stimulus, which Jindal echoed tonight with, at bare minimum, his reference to the maglev train "between Las Vegas and Disneyland."

A widely repeated claim that $8 billion is set aside for a "levitating train" to Disneyland is untrue. That total is for unspecified high-speed rail projects, and some of it may or may not end up going to a proposed 300-mph "maglev" train connecting Anaheim, Calif., with Las Vegas.

A few more while they are at it:

* It's not true that the bill contains spending for "golf carts." It has $300 million to buy fuel-efficient vehicles, some of which may be electric cart-like utility vehicles like those already in use on military bases and at other government facilities.

* Money claimed to be for "remodeled federal offices" is mostly designated for upgrading buildings to "green" status through such things as thicker insulation and highly efficient lighting, not new drapes or paneling. ...

* There's no money in the bill specified for butterfly parks, Frisbee golf courses or water slides, despite a GOP congressman's claim that the bill "will fund" those projects. He culled those silly-sounding items from a list of 18,750 city projects that the U.S. Conference of Mayors cobbled together as examples of "shovel-ready" projects.

That's the summary. Full analysis here.

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Yea, it's kind of pathetic Jindal doesn't have anything better.

Besides, what does the GOP have against high speed rail anyways? That it's clean, fuel efficient, fast, safe? That it can be powered by green electricity? What? Is it just becasue the Japanese and all of Europe love their trains the GOP has to be against them?


Or maybe it's just all the automobile and airline lobbyists stopping us from recognizing what every other developed country already knows: high speed trains are the best way to travel short to medium distances.

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It seems to me the reason Repubs. focus in on such projects is that they are localized. They would mostly benefit some smallish subset of the public. This tactic is based on appealing to the selfish, what's in it for me, mindset of conservatives.

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Besides, what does the GOP have against high speed rail anyways? That it's clean, fuel efficient, fast, safe?

Yes.

That it can be powered by green electricity?

Yes.

What? Is it just becasue the Japanese and all of Europe love their trains the GOP has to be against them?

Yes.

All that, plus the worst thing -- only governments are building them. (Not that private enterprise didn't at one time build railroads, with extremely heavy government subsidy of course, but I guess at this point that's not happening.) It's like, you know, all socialist 'n' stuff. So if government builds it, and it works, it's yet another nail in the coffin of the Rethuglican "Government isn't the solution to our problem, government is the problem" meme. It would take Saint Ronald of Reagan, the original utterer of the quote, down one more peg, and they would hate that too. Same thing with health care.

So, as I pointed out in my comment above, they have to lie about what government is doing. It is, indeed, the only thing they've got.

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OMG. Just heard a snippet of Jindal. Uncanny how much he sounds like Kenneth the Page (who is no doubt a good example of a typical rank and file repug, BTW—religious, ignorant, inbred, and dumb as dirt).

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I think you're being a little unfair to Kenneth the Page. He at least has been shown to have a good moral center. Comparing him to Republicans in that regard is a great disservice to him.

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Polls, bounce...nightmares from general election..getting woozy.

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Jindal was atrocious . . . He definitely confirmed my belief that GOP now stands for
Greedy Obstructionist Politician.
Obama was amazing!

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Jindal using Katrina as a selling point for the Republican agenda was a little like a Ford salesman using the Pinto to sell cars.

The man is completely clueless. And he's the savior of the GOP?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, HA, ha, ha, ha.

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Actually, it was more like a Ford salesman using the Pinto to sell bicycles.

“See? Cars explode!! Why would you want to drive a car?”

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It's even different from this because he's not even advocating buying anything. The right analogy is so hard to come up with because the reasoning is twisted on so many levels. Focusing on Brownie, I tried to approach his argument in terms of logical syllogisms and it is very messy, but it might look something like this:

1. One manager who anyone could see at the outset was unqualified and who worked for my organization, never mind why we hired or entrusted the oaf, did not fix a particular problem that seemed readily fixable.

2. That proves that NO manager from my competition, qualified or not, CAN solve a different kind of problem which is so severe as to form a systemic threat and which is worsening daily.

3. Therefore, the best approach for the rapidly worsening systemic threat problem is to take no substantial steps at all.

4. And the above shows why you should put your faith in my organization – we obviously can best represent you for progressively worsening systemic threat problems, so when we say it’s best to do nothing and just assume this rapidly worsening problem will not destroy you despite strong evidence to the contrary, rely on us.

Sorry it's wordy. If this is what their party's savior is using for logic, their problems are worse than I realized! Whew!

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The lesson of the Pinto: never buy a car with a wick.

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It doesn't matter what the public thinks. We're two years away from an election. The Republicans are going to play obstructionist hardball with every damn little thing. As it presently stands the Democrats need three GOPers to get on board with everything they do, and getting those three will exact a heavy toll.

The GOP knows the press will not present it as it really is. They know they can ignore every poll that comes out.

Jindal schmindal. The guy is nothing. He's not in the Senate, which is where the GOP can flex its muscles.

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All I gotta say is obama "nailed it." Without a doubt. Awesome speech.

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Interesting diary out at DK: Jindal told a fairy tale about his actions during Katrina:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/24/23132/9395/253/701495

Why am I not surprised? Oh well, he's outa here anyway.

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The reason the GOP is pushing Jindal isn't because of his leadership talent but because of his brown skin and family immigrant origins. Jindal, Steele, and Palin? Give me a break, all three of these people are cynical tokenistic selections to be the masked face of the GOP. Don't bank robbers and other thugs hide behind masks?

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David Brooks for Obama's press secretary.

His take on the Jindal response: "disaster for the Republican party," "a form of nihilism," "not where the country is," "insane," "path to permanent minority status," "unmitigated disaster," etc. . .

from the Newhour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27UIt0RuMw

from Charlie Rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoKd9irM9dM

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"The public has long since decided that the failure in Katrina was one of inaction, and he goes and uses it as an example of why we should have inaction. Wild."

Right. My head exploded. Only thing I'd add, it was of course inaction under a Republican Administration who was staunchly anti-government, pro-privatization, Blackwater, ENRON, Hallibuton, etc.

Now we have Jindal clearly contrasting himself from Bush by promising anti-government inaction, done right! No, really this time!

Next he's gonna start praising WALMART's bottled water delivery to flooded NOLA, as an example of free market efficiency replacing government programs. It's truly mind boggling.

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