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Obama Celebrates Stimulus Passage In New Web Address
In his newest YouTube address, President Obama praises the passage of the economic stimulus bill, while also telling the public that this is only the start of a long road to economic reform and recovery:

Obama did take a bit of a shot at his Republican critics: "Now, some fear we won't be able to effectively implement a plan of this size and scope, and I understand their skepticism. Washington hasn't set a very good example in recent years. And with so much on the line, it's time to begin doing things differently."

No Obama Or Biden Events This Weekend
President Obama is spending the weekend with his family in Chicago, while Vice President Biden will be in New York City and Wilmington, Delaware. They do not have any scheduled public events today or tomorrow.

Coleman Campaign: We're Still In It -- And It'll Take A Long Time
The Coleman campaign says yesterday's court ruling -- which forbade the counting of various categories of rejected absentee ballots -- has only reduced them to a pool of 3,500 remaining envelopes out of their original set of 4,800. Coleman attorney/spokesman Ben Ginsberg also said the court's imposition of strict requirements for newly-admitted ballots could lengthen the trial: "There may be fewer ballots to look at, but proving them up may take longer."

NYT: Obama Finds Out Bipartisanship Isn't So Easy
The New York Times reports that the Obama Administration has discovered in the stimulus debates just how difficult it will be to craft bipartisan legislation with the Republican opposition. David Axelrod said the White House has "learned some lessons from this," but is happy with the result, while former Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta predicted that Republican support was "wishful thinking" that won't be coming to pass: "If you're going to do this at the moment of greatest need, at the height of his popularity, what sort of thing would get you to change?"

House GOP: We Are Not The Party Of 'No'
House Republicans are denying the assertion that they are simply a party opposed to the Democrats' agenda -- instead, they are offering better ideas that aren't being adopted. "I said on the opening day that we wouldn't be the party of 'no' and we haven't been," John Boehner told reporters yesterday. He later added: "If they are not willing to take any of our ideas to work with us in any way - you can't blame us, they are the majority."

Poll: Public Approves Direct Negotiations With Iran
A new Gallup poll shows large public support for direct diplomacy with Iran: 56% for it, to 38% against it -- and with even 48% of Republicans supporting it. This is not to say that Americans view Iran favorably, with only 12% favorable and 80% unfavorable, but it does show a large majority in favor of Obama's position of direct engagement with adversaries.

Obama Web Strategist Advising Australian Labor Party
Former Obama Web guru Ben Self, founder of Blue State Digital, is following in the footsteps of other American political advisers who break through in a big way. Self is now consulting for an ideologically-aligned party in another county, the Australian Labor Party. (Note that whenever he will be working in Australian politics, Self won't be doing anything to advance liberal policies.)


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Question to GOP: "Are you the party of NO?"

GOP Answer: "No."

Seriously, though, since Reid didn't seat Franken last month, what is the protocol for getting him seated, at least provisionally, now? It looks like Coleman is going to sting this out as long as possible, Minnesotans be Damned!

So will GOPer Coleman concede? "No."


PEACE

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Very cute - "No" ..........

I was thinking just this morning how thankful I am for the internet and how insane I would be if I only had print and television for news. BTW, MN is driving me close to insane, I am surprised it's citizens are not livid at Coleman.

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Sure, Boehner -- The ONLY contribution of GOP House Members: Stimulating their Members During Stimulus Vote
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=6179

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Coleman knows his political career is over, he's just doing the party's bidding and probably will get a handsome donation from GOP supporters to aid in his criminal case. He has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

From what I can understand, the burden of proof is on Coleman to prove that each individual ballot should be counted.

Franken can't do anything except grin an bear it. He needs to go on the PR offensive once this trial is decided. You know Coleman will appeal, but he needs to make his case that the State court sided with him and that Minnesota deserves two senators and Coleman's stall tactics and endless court action is hurting Minnesotans.

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It cracks me up: "If they are not willing to take any of our ideas to work with us in any way - you can't blame us, they are the majority."

Doesn't 38% of the package consist of tax cuts?? I don't think it can be said enough times- these people are are a bunch of children.
Waaaaahhhhh!!!

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I don't know if it's 38 percent, but yes there was a lot of tax cuts put in their to get GOP support. Even though they wanted a bill with tax cuts, they still rejected it and went along crying like spoiled brats.

To quote the liberal radio host Mike Malloy: "Did I mention how much I hate these people?".

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I saw 38% on Hardball. LA Times' graphic has it closer to 36%. Here's the link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-021409-na-stimulus_vote-g,0,5774424.graphic


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How are you listening to Mike Malloy now?

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I'm not, but that's something he always says regarding the GOP. That and calling them a bunch of bastards and screaming off the top of his lungs.

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"If they are not willing to take any of our ideas to work with us in any way . . ." Jesus, he still thinks he's the majority leader.

Get a clue, John. Your party lost, as will you in 2010.

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I believe John Dean wrote in his book Broken Government that Democrats were personae non gratae when committees were meeting to craft legislation. Repugs went out of their way to exclude Democrats from actively participating relying totally on the Party membership voting to get legislation passed. And now they're crying because they're being minimized. BULL$H!T !!!

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At this rate, Senator Franken will be sworn in...right around the time he needs to worry about getting re-elected. I don't think Coleman's ever going to concede, how many more months can he eat up in his pursuit to deprive MN of a Senator? Here's hoping Franken wins this decisively and soon.

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"Here's hoping Franken wins this decisively and soon".

Same here man, and after that here's hoping the good state of MN changes their election laws that you can't issue an election cerfificate and be seated until the the loser has conceded the race.

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The selfishness of Coleman never ceases to amaze me.

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The fact that John Boehner is denying that Republicans are the party of NO suggests that the "Party of NO" is quickly becoming the brand.

Gosh. No one could have anticipated that when EVERY SINGLE REPBULICAN IN THE HOUSE voted against something an extremely popular president wants that people would start calling them the party of NO.

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Time to pull out those "Just say no" bumper stickers from the Reagan years.

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Good Call !!!

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From, GOP (Grand Old Party) to GNP (Got No Praty).
Right on.

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GNP. Perfect.

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Where are we going to lunch? Bad call on my part, obviously. I didn't anticipate that the republican politicians would have a death wish.

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We should have a contest which is who can guess what month Al Franken will finally be seated. I say "May".

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You might want to include "year" in that pool. Given the rate at which they're probably counting absentee ballots, I'll go with October, 2011.

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May sounds like it. My hope is by then Norm will have dragged his party with him deeper down so those idiots won't ever recover.

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I'll say mid to late April. Ugh. Coleman just admitted he was stalling, no surprise.

I hope the judges start placing some deadlines and using language like "forthwith"- this is getting blatantly ridiculous.

I read this about another court case and this is what's happening here:

"Ordinary arguments build. One point adds to another and those add to another and when you think you’ve put forward enough of them, you utter a sentence that begins with “Therefore,” or something like it, and sit back with your arms folded and wait to see if your partner or the jury buys what you’re selling.

That kind of argument requires that the individual points add up to a totality that is convincing; all the parts have to support one another and that conclusion. If you argue with points that are mutually exclusive, then you’re almost certain to lose: Your partner won’t buy it and the jury won’t convict. The best-known example of the latter in recent years is perhaps the O.J. Simpson felony trial, which collapsed in large part because a glove the prosecutor said Simpson wore when he was committing two murders didn’t fit. Simpson stood in front of the jury with the glove that wouldn’t go over his hand, turning the hand with the ill-fitting glove this way and that, and looking at the jury with an expression that seemed to say, “See what foolishness this case is based on?” Later, in summation, his attorney said again and again, like a mantra, “If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” And so the jury did.

But in the legal world of motions, arguments aren’t cumulative. An attorney can put totally contradictory arguments out there, every one of which exists in a legal universe that excludes the others, and the judge or group of appellate judges can reject all in every regard but accept one and the lawyer may get the desired result anyway."

http://artvoice.com/issues/v7n35/stop_stalling

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Hi Joseph. Hope all is going well for you!

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Hi Amelie! I'm hanging in there. I hope you're doing good as well!!

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WaPo Analysis says that Obama's stimulus package is a HISTORICAL FEAT. It has NEVER been done before where there was this big of legislation this fast of any president ever. The closest to this is FDR's legislation where he got banking regulation passed within days of his presidency.

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Speaking of the party of NO, there's an Op-Ed piece in the NYTimes Opinion titled Thirty Years Later, a Return to Stagflation written by PAUL D. RYAN a repug representative from Wisconsin.

As I read the article, I felt as if I was having to begging it to get to the point. Finally, in the third paragraph from the end he gets to the meat of the argument he is presenting.

First, he says in order to prevent stagflation, the Congress should enact fiscal policy reforms that apply the lessons learned from the 1970s. He does elaborate on what those lessons were, but I suspect it has Reagan written all over it.

Second he states Keynesian stimuli based on borrowing and spending have not worked and will not work. Again, he doesn't offer any examples to substiantiate this claim, but the hollow, dead voice of Friedman comes to mind.

Thirdly, he states that one-time rebate checks do not increase the incentive to expand business operations and create jobs. Again, he offers nothing to back this up. I have a Bus Admin degree and thought people with money, making purchases were the incentives for businesses to expand and hire.

Finally. he gets to his coupe de grace : marginal cuts in tax rates.

Typical of neanderthal repug thinking, he goes on the offensive that Congress must lower job-killing corporate income tax rate and ease business worries by making it clear that there will be no tax increases in 2010. Sure wish he would have taken the time to elaborate this one - he wasted enough of my time just getting here. Beside, we did it this way for eight years and look where we ended up.

This guy was born in 1970 so he's a tad bit shy on the experience measure when it comes to having lived during those stagflation years he seems to be so proficient about. What surprised me is he holds a degree in economics and political science. I would expect his argument to have been more professional rather than whimsical and full of hot air.

What is disturbing is the fact that the NYTimes gave him a soapbox and a corner to stand on to preach this utter nonsense. This gives him and the repugs a footing as being relevant - which they're not.

It also becomes a talking point with which repugs will point to so as to validate their no new tax stance during these times. John Dean has written about how Yoo and others have used Law Reviews as springboards for getting questionable legal views into acceptance. Such reviews are never vetted, just published. Once published, they become de facto legal opinions.

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When 75% of corporations and Comapanies, pay no taxes. There is no regressive tax rate. The public expenditures on infrastructure and commerece weigh more in favor of commerce than the individual.

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I'm betting the Coleman trial lasts until 6 years from now.

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Or upon his indictment, which ever comes first.

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Norm: "It'll take a long time".

How soon until he adopts the language of his landsmen and starts saying he's running an "insurgency", he's like the "Taliban" and it'll be a long, hard slog"? I say next week.

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GOP The Party of No?

No Jobs
No public work projects
No Cooperation
No Bipartisanship
No Real Patriotism - "I want the President to fail" - Rush Limbaugh, Leader of the Republican party.
No Racial Diversity
No Economic Diversity

Looks like it is the Party of No -- "Republican for a Reason" -- No Brains

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