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Oh, Canada

Barack Obama's in Ottawa today. The snow's falling. People are skating on the canals. The president and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet and Obama will fly home after a few hours. It's the classic first presidential visit abroad.

But there are a couple of things to watch out for in this meeting with America's largest trading partner. The first is backtracking on the North American Free Trade Agreement. During the primaries Candidate Obama vowed to rewrite the deal. Now, uh, not so much. In an interview with Canadian TV he hinted that this wasn't the time to start getting all disruptive with settled agreements. Will organized labor let this one slide? A lot will depend on the language coming out of Obama's meeting with Harper.

Here's Thea Lee, policy director at the AFL-CIO was pretty mellow in her comments about the trip:

"We hope there will be greater fiscal cooperation in response to the economic crisis ... both in terms of scale and content," she said.

"We would like to see the labor and environment provisions in NAFTA strengthened and enforced more effectively."

Second, Afghanistan. What kind of commitments can he get out of Canada to help with the Obama surge? Canada's been in this fight from the start and their military is not huge but can Obama get more out of them? It'll be at least a bit of a harbinger of what could happen when he goes to the Europeans hat in hand.

National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones is on the trip. Hillary Clinton is in Asia. Could be some intereseting Kremlinology in who actually does the readouts to the press. Jones, by the way, won't need translation gear. Raised in France for much of his youth, he speaks fluent French.


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"He vowed to rewrite the deal"??????? WTF. I don't remember him saying he wanted to rewrite the deal. I remember him saying that there had to be changes, but a wholesale "rewrite"? Have a link for that claim? I doubt it.

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As Obama ratcheted up his attempts to tie Clinton to the controversial policy -- a policy many displaced workers blame for job losses to other countries -- he said that he would consider pulling out of NAFTA unilaterally if the labor and environmental terms were not renegotiated.

Link: The Nafta kerfluffle during the primary

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That's not completely rewriting the deal. That's renegotiating two provisions, which is what I recalled.

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He only said he'd consider pulling out. He could decide not to. Besides, if he uses his first meeting with a foreign leader to push him around, we'd rightly say he was continuing Bush's style of diplomacy. There's also a case to be made that the current Canadian government isn't interested in reworking NAFTA, and Obama has bigger issues right now. There will be time for NAFTA eventually, and the Canadian government's hold on power is pretty weak. It seems likely that Canadians will soon tire of their Bush clone prime minister.

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he speaks fluent French.

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!! Does Rush Limbaugh know this? I think that sound I hear is wingnut heads exploding.

Obviously, Jim Jones MUST be replaced.

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Add raised in france as well. He must be a traitor.

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Probably went to the same French madrasa that Obama did.

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Word has it that he doesn't have pets, either.

He's just another wine-drinking, madrasa attending, French speaking petless terrorist.

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But... but... in Canada, they don't speak French; they speak Québecois.  Any French speaker from France that's been to Canada will tell you that!

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There is little chance that he can get a commitment on Afghanistan from Harper. Harper is in a minority government that is going to have an election before 2011. Harper will not want to run on a platform of extending the afghanistan mission. Canada has a bit of Afghanistan fatigue; it seems like every other week there is a new face on the front page of a young soldier killed in Kandahar, and a piece with his grieving family.

At this point the best that Obama could get out of Harper is a commitment to lead a provincial reconstruction team in a quiet area after 2011.

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non-event ... I'm going back to sleep.

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Jim Jones may spaek fluent French but that won't help him talk to Harper much since Harper's French is poor at best. Global warming is an issue that could cause problems, with Canada being the largest exporter of energy (oil, gas and hydro-electricity) to the US and Tar Sands becoming a bigger and bigger part of Canad's oil production, how to count the CO2 emissions (consumer vs. producer)and getting a good regulatory system in place will be a challange.

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Canada doesn't give a shit about labor and enviromental regulations. Hell, if such regulations were added to the treaty, Canada could probably sue us for violations.

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This conversation will center on two, maybe three things - Afghanistan, the environment (specifically as noted, energy production), and the trickle-over-the-border effect of the crappy economy. Certainly nothing of major consequence is going to be decided, not in a 5 hour visit and a working lunch.

NAFTA as the first and primary issue to be discussed today? Hogswallop. Non-starter, won't happen.

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Three videos were created featuring Canadians welcoming President Obama to Canada.

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