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The Story Behind That Scrapped White House Social Security Task Force

The New York Times reports this morning that the White House had abandoned plans to unveil a Social Security "task force" at today's fiscal summit, raising the question of whether the Obama administration is ready to conduct separate debate over the long-term health of Social Security and Medicare -- or whether the tired canard of "dangerous entitlement spending" will continue to rule the political roost.

One liberal activist who weighed in against the proposed task force told me that some within the administration are ready to attempt "one more fix" for Social Security, thinking of the 70-year-old benefits program "as an equation to be solved" and the Obama team as the mathematicians on the case.

"We just think the timing is terrible" to formally open such a Social Security task force now, this activist added. "At a time when the economy is terrible and people are losing their 401(k)s, you want people to feel more comfortable about their retirement."

Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research (and a TPMCafe contributor), was another influential voice on the left urging Obama aides to use the White House bully pulpit on other issues and leave aside Social Security.

"I certainly let them know that I thought it would be a really bad idea" to create any task force, Baker told me. "Most of us took the position that we were trying to use whatever contacts we had [to raise concerns], working from the position that we were expecting to be working with the Obama administration."

The message sent to the White House by progressives, as Baker put it, was: "We're going to have to oppose you on this. It's a waste of political capital - why would you do it?"

In the end, of course, the task force was put on the back burner and the mantra of "health reform is entitlement reform" became the order of the day, thanks in large part to the work of White House budget chief Peter Orszag.

But while many progressives are eager to stop lumping Social Security and Medicare together, others view reluctance to address Social Security as giving in to pre-emptive fears that conservatives would hijack the process to promote privatization.

"Wouldn't it be a progressive achievement to lock Social Security in for everybody alive today and their children?" one person close to the issue asked me. "Why wouldn't we do it? [As for] how you do it, there will be a long discussion with stakeholders to get it done."


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What the "one person close to the issue" said. Fix it now, while we have a majority, by doughnut-holing in an increase on the cap. Take the piece off the board before the Republicans get back into power and, when they start screaming about tax increases, say "hey, you're the guys who say its a crisis, what do you want to do, put it all in the stock market? Okay, run along while the grown-ups talk and we'll be looking forward to getting your constituients input on that great idea next November."

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Well, I stand corrected. If some guy says it in a liberal blog, it must be true. But, wait, he's contradicting what I said in in a liberal blog, and I'm some guy, so now I'm feeling all self-referential statement logical paradoxy.

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Except that there is a lot of history to support Atrios's contention that Republicans and their mouthpieces NEVER regard such issues as off the table, and there is precious little to support your (frankly surprisingly naive for someone so normally sensible)contrary view. Remember, these are people who still want to fight the battles of 1973.

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1973? 1873, you mean...

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The elephant never forgets!

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Actually I meant to type "1993", but you may be onto something there...

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Great, one typo by you and the wise-ass thread potential of my "self-referential paradox" comment dies on the vine.

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Oh, and as long as the Administration and Congress focus on reviving the economy, which includes fixing health care, and avoid distractions like the nonexistent SS "crisis", we'll have a BIGGER majority after the 2010 election.

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As Steve said on an earlier thread, the so-called SS crisis is easily solved by raising the annual cap on SS tax.

In fact, that's a good way to recoup a bit of what's been given to the rich:  Lower the SS tax rate but eliminate the cap (not just raise it).

A tax cut for the working class!

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The real fact on the SS rate hike in the early 1980's that created the SS Trust Fund was to offset a business tax cut. Reagan didn't want to give business a tax cut and at the same time require them to pay more on employee SS - one would have canceled the other out. So the employee gets hosed and pays both.

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jzap said:Lower the SS tax rate but eliminate the cap (not just raise it).

What a great idea. Why was the cap instated in the first place? Perhaps they thought that the rich would balk at paying for something they wouldn't need. However, the cap isn't high enough if that was their reason.

What they should do is lower the rate, raise or eliminate the cap and cap the benefits!

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The tax cap is in place because the benefits are capped. If the tax cap is removed so that more of a person's salary is taxed, then the benefits need to be raised.

Not sure that removing the tax cap will yield benefit to anyone other than the wealthy.

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One doesn't follow the other. People in the top bracket don't get more defense or more housing assistance from the federal government because they pay more.

The uniquely regressive aspect of the social security taxation scheme was implemented because it was felt that doing it what way would get the program greater emotional buy-in from the middle and upper middle class, rather than building resentment over a socialist give-away to the shiftless poor. I'm not sure that that assumption was ever valid in the first place and, in any case, its not an affordable luxuary. In any case, payments have never really been fully coupled to contributions--if they were, the first generation of beneficiaries would have been ineligible.

In any case, that's why I favor doughnut-holing in a second increment of taxable income that starts somewhere in the six figures of AGI solution. Keep the benefits theoretically pegged to payments out of the first bracket and be honest about the "social" aspect of the second.

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Elena - This is nothing more than another effort to create controversy. The reason for the delay in announcing the formation of a SS task force is nothing more than sequence and timing.

President Obama and his advisors have decided that addressing medicare and medicade is more urgent than dealing with a basic math problem (actuarial) with SS.

He will eventually get to SS as he goes through the s*it pile left to him.

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As long as they quite jerking around the older Baby Boomers about Social Security cuts/fixes, I'll be happy. The first time Bush talked about cuts for those under 55, I was months away from turning 55. Now I am 3 years older and just as concerned if not more so about any changes for those of us pushing 60.
I have worked my whole adult life and have paid for both my grandparents and parents. They had pretty decent retirments because they had pensions. I do not have a pension.
Too many folks just throw out the idea of cuts without any regard to the real people who are behind those cuts.
Baby Boomers are not going away. If you cut us off, we will be out on the streets.

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I'm with you and watch closely when they "reform" healthcare. Medicare may get reformed into a private insurance policy. When they say "reform" they off just mean "cut".

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There is no Social Security crisis. They lay out three scenarios, a high cost scenario, a middle scenario and a low cost one, have done so ever since the reform in the early 1980s that raised the retirement age to 67 for late- and post-Boomers. And almost EVERY YEAR the low cost scenario has proven to be correct, and the high cost one pure fiction.

Social Security has grown during the Bush Administration more slowly than any other major government program, it has very low management overhead, and it just works. Almost every other government program is on less stable footing and is less well run. If you're looking for programs that are really hemorrhaging cash, you need to look at Medicare where they can't keep up with the ballooning and out-of-control costs of providers and insurers, and you need to look at defense and in particular the Air Force where their ability to provide sufficient working weaponry declines as fast as their costs increase.

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Decisive moment

Then why do they keep jerking us Baby Boomers around? It is cruel and disgusing.

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Decisive moment

Then why do they keep jerking us Baby Boomers around? It is cruel and disgusing.

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any progressive, or person with integrity(that rules out republicans)can not possibly be happy about Obams agenda.
i realize most here will apoligize for anything he does...so maybe i will just say..anyone with integrity.................

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Medicare is in deeper doo-doo than is SS in general, and it's due to hit the fan decades sooner, according to common projections. It makes total sense to work on Medicare first.

It also fits in nicely with larger health care issues about to be put on the table.

Seems like a smooth move, to me. SS can be fixed in the next two decades. Medicare cannot wait.

btw, I'm not suggesting that SS be ignored for a decade, only that it be put on the back burner for about 6-18 months.

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