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Behold...The Bachmann Effect!

When Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) talks, people listen -- even if they're not entirely sure what they're hearing.

I've now discovered at least three examples of a curious phenomenon: The Bachmann Effect. When Bachmann is out there talking about the issues in an adversarial setting, her opponents find themselves on a very unsure footing -- mainly because they're shocked and befuddled to hear what she's saying.

Check out these three examples, in reverse-chronological order:

The first was from today's Financial Services hearing, when she demanded an answer from Tim Geithner as to what the constitutional basis was for his actions in the bailout. The second is from a debate this past October with her Democratic opponent El Tinklenberg. And the third is from an appearance on Larry King Live during the Republican Convention, in a peculiar exchange with James Carville.

These three individuals don't know each other, and yet on three separate occasions you'll see the exact same facial expression each time.


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I think you are finally getting it. She's an entertainer not a politician and no doubt she'll get very rich playing her role.

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The chick is on psych meds!

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She's just high on Jesus

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She NEEDS to be on psych meds, big time! How the hell anybody could have voted for her, and I mean anybody, even the the rushpublic. They have got to know what a batshit crazy loon she is!
Does dhe ever have any kind of original ideas? Or is she just good at crying McCarthyism at the Dems, or trying to incite violence, or just talking to hear herself talk?
I know a lot of politicians egos grow out of control sometimes, but, don't even the GOPer's see what a whackjob she is? She is right on par with Palin, except, and I really hate to say this but..................Palin might be a little (just a little) smarter than Bachmann!!

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Exactly - Bachmann is a Gremlin from hell with that extra make up and scowl...

(Look at the girl behind Geithner rolling her eyes at Bachmann-Moron-Overdrive...)

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Thank you, Red!

Your characterization, destined to be forever shorthanded to BMO (Bachmann Moron Overdrive), provided one hell of a great belly laugh. I'm positively giddy from the endorphins!

TPMTV may have to consider starting a new feature: This Week in BMO. (Suggested theme song, a mash-up of the tunes "Michelle" and "Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet." Possible lyrics, with apologies to Mssrs. McCartney and Bachman): Michelle, it's hell/All your mindless words make smart brains swell/B-b-b-baby, you ain't heard nothing' yet. [Hell, Josh and Co, just say the word and I'll record/perform it.]) Lord knows the material's there.

Again, thanks Red. And good luck with the Sox!

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Well, I have to say it just about bumps "Kathleen Turner Overdrive" (local Boston band name, some years back now) off the top of my list of favorite BTO-derived monikers. But then since there are only two on the list, it's not that huge of a displacement.

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I think if I was in Bachmann's district, I'd have to move. How she could get not only elected but re-elected is beyond me.

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The district is so gerrymandered it isn't even funny. And the worst part of it is that it's an accident. Jesse Ventura wanted a district he figured an Independence Party candidate could win, so they drew one that basically encompasses the areas he did best in, and then threw in a couple of particularly Republican leaning areas on both ends to keep Pawlenty happy when he was House Majority Leader. Then, of course, as per Minnesota districting tradition, everybody sued each other, and once again, as per Minnesota districting tradition, a panel of federal judges made a few minor tweaks here and there and basically came up with the same plan.

So what you have for Bachmann is a district that links up every megachurch-hosting, jacked-up-pickup-driving, gun-toting, preborn-saving, postborn-neglecting, end-timer exurb to the east, north and west of the Twin Cities, plus St. Cloud where they're so habitually Republican anyway that existential questions of the Book of Revelations don't really enter into the voting decision process. While I'm sure you could craft way crazier districts in Texas . . . well, Tom Delay already did . . . for Minnesota this is pretty darn crazy.

The last two election cycles simply show that no matter how hard you try, you can't produce a Congressional district in Minnesota that will give an end-timer more than 55 percent of the vote. But they sure did produce one that reliably coughs up 50 percent. And Bachmann sure has a megachurch following. We saw it when she deep-sixed Gary Laidig to get in the state senate in the first place, and then she mobilized that district wide. And the end-timers are half the vote in this district.

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Rumor has it that Michelle is a dedicated follower of 15th Century bigot, Martin Luther, who, as Adolph Hitler once noted, he owed a debt of gratitude.

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It's the batshit crazy eyes.

When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.

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Hear, hear. That's some serious crazy there.

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Reminds me of the Runaway Bride...

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Michele Bachmann speech MadLibs:

I personally believe ________ US Americans ________ such as _________ in the Iraq ________ for our children.

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Absolutely. She leaves any normal person thinking 'WTF?', but unable to articulate a more polite version of 'WTF?' I guess it's a testament to the proposition that anyone, and I truly mean anyone, can get elected to public office.

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"The chick is on psych meds!"


No... I think that is the problem.

Michelle, you've got to take your medicine every single day. Its not OK to skip a day, even if you are feeling better.

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The Geithner question is especially revealing of the depths of her ignorance.

From Article II, section 3: "(The President) shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed..."

Congress passed the TARP, the President is executing it.

If her point is that Congress shouldn't have passed the TARP in the first place, there's the Commerce Clause which gives them express authority to do so.

If her point is the Secretary of the Treasury isn't the President, and thus isn't bound to execute the laws, the above quoted clause continues, "...and shall commission all the officers of the United States."

If her point is the President should be deciding what is and isn't constitutional, that's the Supreme Court's job, and thus a separation of powers issue.

If her point is that without black letter textual support in the constitution authority doesn't exist, there's the Ninth Amendment which reads in full: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." (Or, to summarize: Founders to Nino Scalia -- Drop Dead.)

The only thing I can think is she's one of those simultaneously literal and fantastical readers of the document. That is, she's absolutely convinced herself that certain aspects of the constitution don't exist, and no amount of citation will persuade her otherwise.

She won't see it until she believes it.

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Hal, you give her too much credit. I seriously doubt she's ever read the Constitution.

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You are totally missing the point, Hal.

What in the constitution says that in the year of our Lord, 2009, the US Treasury Department will give banks bail outs, or create a TARP?

It's not there!!!! It's not there!!!

Ohmigod, the whole country has gone rogue!!!

Thank God Michelle can see this all so clearly and take appropriate steps to hold the Treasury accountable. Whew!

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Where was Michele's follow up to Geitner's answer about the Constitution giving the authority to treasury via the legislature..."this body"...
What body? Where? She's going to leave no stone unturned in the search for that stinking body he keeps talking about. There are none of those in the Constitution and this smart cookie KNOWS it.

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It's an act.

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Do you mean in a batshit-crazy, runaway-bride breeds-with-the-spawn-of-Jack-Torrance-and-Kathleen-Harris-and-produces-a-daughter sort of act?

Perhaps.

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No. It's not an act. You haven't seen her in action in the state legislature or speaking to her fellow megachurchers or hiding behind the bushes to spy on a GLBT rally. It's not an act if you're that fucked up and clueless 24/7/365.

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It's like when someone brings a cricket bat to a basketball game and insists on using it - you know the rules have gone out the window.

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This woman is a waste of our time. I knew she was stupid before I clicked on the thread, guys. Eyes on the prize.

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Katherine Harris redux.

Ever notice that in modern times that always means a conservative and usually a Republican?

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These are not even examples of Bachmann's wackier madness. Her Bush hug on the floor of the House?

I very much believe that Bachmann has severe mental issues. If she's been prescribed meds, it's likely that she doesn't take them.

I guess some voters will vote for "Crazy" if it's hidden behind a relatively attractive face. Well, attractive for a politician.

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As a native, but for years relocated, Minnesotan I particularly appreciate this succinct video summary of Ms. Bachmann's ridiculousness and idiocy. Along with the passing of Prop 8 in California, Bachmann's victory last November was the only truly devastating election night defeat.

There is, however, some benefit in having her as a leading figure in the GOP given that 75-80% of Americans will view her as semi-insane (even my conservative, very conservative grandmother back home thinks she's a bit whacko). Democrats should piggyback the "Michelle Bachman strategy" onto the "Rush Limbaugh strategy" whenever possible.

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Forget Bachmann, we need to examine the heads of the people who voted for her. We need to investigate everyone in her district.

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Um...the answer to that first one is "The Commerce Clause"...

...so either Bachman has some weird televised bingo/drinking game going on with her constituents or she had some cutesy slogan she wanted to hang on him playing on the word "Commerce"....giving her the benefit of the doubt which she clearly does not deserve.

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The Commerce Clause:

The Congress shall have power . . . To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

What do I win for that?

Can a get a piece of TARP?

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To which she would have promptly replied "not-uh!"

Ka-ching! Score another debating point for the moron!

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I think the Bachmann effect echoes one of Steven King's (the writer not the other congressional horror)pen names. In fairness to Minnesota, Congresswoman Bachmann was born in Waterloo, Iowa but moved to Minnesota at an early age. We in Waterloo are now well represented by a Democratic Congressman Bruce Braley. Strange as it may seem in small world coincidencs, while Jesse Ventura is not from Waterloo (we have real wrestlers from here such as Dan Gable)his cousin is a member of the police force. I think there has also been some press about Bachmann misstating her experience as a practicing lawyer and the status of her Minnesota law license. Hopefully the people in her district will adopt a rule that the third time is not the charm and bring her back to Minnesota. Her election this time was helped by a third party candidate who took 10% of the vote so she got less than 50% and since Minnesota is definitely not a southern state she didn't need to face a run off election (Southern Dixiecrat and Republican for keep out Blacks and Liberals from elected office.)

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First District, represent!

I love Bruce Braley. Populist caucus, anyone?

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This woman is batshit crazy----I think she is very narcistic--she is always looking directly into the camera when she is on CSpan and today I noticed that her makeup is specifically the kind used on tv personell.

If she is this nuts, can you imagine how crazy her constituents must be?

Also, Barney Frank really let her have it when her time ran out when she was questioning Geithner. He doesn't put up with her bullshit.

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Akin to "tastes great" vs "less filling", I am going to argue with you that she is not crazy...just not very bright.

GOP is a top down organization, as you know, so somebody is feeding her talking points, especially something with this much attention - she is just not capable of making those talking points match the conversation, which is why her bits about Carville attacking women and Tinklenberg being against securing the borders are just plain tone deaf.

She has some point that somebody wanted her to make about the Commerce Clause, she just could not deliver.

Which makes me happy.

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Her husband feeds her propaganda, but I don't know what extreme far right source he's getting it from. You'll notice that when she actually gets called on some of her nuttier pronouncements, she doesn't seem to know exactly where her information came from. She just takes it for granted that it's reliable.

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You're a brave man Kleefeld

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She was looking pretty good today. What is with all the Republican MILFs being bat showzers crazy?

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And the really stupid yet crazy ones are always brunettes, too. What's up with that?

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Rep. Bachmann (R)is just a scapegoat for all of those intelligent women that are clueless, such as herself.

I thought Gov. Palin was obtuse. We see the next Republican women leaders in play, and it is not good.

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With Gov.Palin and Rep.Bachmann as the female leaders of the repubs! Wow, now I'm scared.

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I honestly can't decide if I prefer Tinklenberg's stunned double-take, or Carville's stunned incredulity. It's a tough call.

(By the way, I live in Texas and visit "Cajun Country" in Louisiana *all the time*, and I have never, ever heard anyone who talks like *either* George W. Bush *or* James Carville. Although my wife assures me that some folks out in Midland *do* talk like Bush--I cannot confirm this of my own knowledge, however.)

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This is what happens when you marry ineptitude and fanaticism.

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The scary part is that she doesn't just make this shit up. Whatever crazy nonsense comes flying out of her mouth on a given day is usually what's circulating in those insane emails that the thirty percenters feverishly send to each other. It's scary because that's where almost a third of the voting population gets most of what they stuff into their heads in lieu of information.

(After all, it's the only news source where they can dare speak the truth that the liberal media conspiracy is supressing.)

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Haha, that's some classic video. Tinklenberg almost did a spit take. It's like she had cotton in her ears while he was talking, and just read what was on her 3"x5" index card regardless.

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Stepford Senator?

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I live in her district and am always ashamed to admit it.

On another note, why no shout out or hat tip to the guy who had to sit through her entire debate filming her lunacy?

http://liberalinthelandofconservative.blogspot.com/2008/10/tinklenbergbachmann-debate-101608.html

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Great post Eric,

I had the blessing to be on break at work with the TV tuned in to the hearings on CNN. I just sat down to eat a twinkie when Bachmann began her "questioning". When she asked her ludicrous question a second time, and Geithner was looking at her as if she was some exhibit at a freakshow, I nearly blew twinkie cream through my nose. I turned to a co-worker in shock and exclaimed, "that's the single stupidest question I've ever heard!" Just in time for her to ask it a THIRD time!

Did Bachmann ever take civics? I suspect she went to college. At least I like to think so. Does she realize that congress, authorized by the constitution, writes laws and except those laws be invalidated as unconstitutional by the judiciary, then they are constitutional? One follows from the other. Is this concept too complicated for the good Congresswoman?! Even my republican co-worker was shocked by Bachmann's interrogation.

I left to go back to work shaking my head, and refreshed in the knowledge that it was assclowns like Bachmann who ruled the roost these past eight years and grounded our ship of state on the sandbar it finds itself on.

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I agree. But you should never eat twinkies (?!) while watching Repugs.

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She's simultaneously the most attractive and repulsive Republican in Congress. All hail the Queen of Wingnuttia.

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That's just about the funniest thing I've ever seen. I love it. I could watch her (and the reactions) forever. "In the constitution!"

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Is she channeling Sarah Palin with the sexy specs-wearing librarian look?
Keep wearing the glasses. They hide the crazy eyes.

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The woman definitely needs some medication, she made an idiot of herself on national television...again.

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Oh, I get it. Michelle Bachmann graduated from the Sarah Palin School of Speaking.

And also,

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She really is the bottom of the barrel of Republican politics. Course it's a very wide and shallow barrel.

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Anyone remember when buck henry would get you wrapped into somthing overly interesting for 8-10-12 minutes? Then let wherever that was going on unravel and you could determine what to do with the leftovers, if anything. You knew he had ya!
This freak thinks she can keep hammering until the nail is through the wood and she's still swinging.Then she thinks you knew what she was saying.
Buck Henry knew you didn't know or care. Big diff.

Only saying that because anyone who believes she is entertainment material has ant culture turned up way to loud on 78 and dancing. Or something

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The second segment is misleading and shows how little TPM understands about the issue:

http://24ahead.com/josh-marshall-tpmtv-misleads-about-michelle-bachmann

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That site? Wow...that is not tinfoil hat is it?

"Obama is going to turn us into France! Fight for your lives!!!"

Batshit crazy must attract batshit crazy.

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Ha. The depths of ignorance this woman plumbs are vast.

I was in class in college once (and only once!). The lecturer gave a somewhat longish, but splendid, exhortation on a point raised. He was excellent. First question came from someone in the row behind me: "Well, Professor, based on what you are saying, right now, isn't that the case?" The prof paused, looked a little funny, and said, "Well, yes, that's why I said it."

His look was identical to Geithner's, Tinklenberg's and Carville's. He had The Look!

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PS I love the way my man Geithner (bless him!) gives his usual professorial response and instantaneously (recognizing a dingbat when he hears one) without skipping a single beat, drops his follow-up answer down one or two college degrees and up a half-octave in a tone carrying a world of patience, and with a little more eyebrow (as in "Who on God's little green planet am I talking to?"). Precious.

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It also gives birth to the "Bachmann Face." That is, the befuddled face made by people she's talking to.

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I am another resident of Bachmann's district who is reluctant to admit it. Bachmann did not get to 50% in either of her elections because the Independence Party is, as mentioned by others, so strong in this district. I am not particularly optimistic that we can beat her in 2010 either. I fear the key to beating her is going to be redistricting. Particularly if Minnesota loses a Congressional seat in the next, there may be a chance to get re-districting that is radical enough to bring her down. I would really like to see Stillwater (Bachmann's home) transferred to St. Paul's district. I think that Betty McCollum, despite her low national profile, could clean Bachmann's clock.

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Do you see how she sort of hunches forward? I'm not expert on body language, but Bachmann is delivering some strange stuff.

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Dear Michelle:

You may have been thinking of Article II, Section 3, which reads, in part:

[The President] shall shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

You might also review Article I, Section 1, which says:

All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

I know that after eight years in which these provisions were totally ignored, they might have slipped your stunted little mind.

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BWhahaha! Sean Hannity portrayed Bachmann's exchange with Geithner as her "slapping him around", implied she had stumped him, then gave her props for her constitutional knowledge. Sorry, no link.

Leaving aside the creepy domestic violence metaphor, it really drives home what far away universes conservatives and liberals now live in. Anybody that could watch that video and claim all that bushwa . . . I really can't wrap my head around that POV.

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Oh thank you thank you I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

Still, she scares me silly, too. Remember Reagan got elected president, and he made even less sense.

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