Franken Lawyers To Court: Throwing Out The Election Is Not A Legal Option
The Franken legal team has written a letter to the judges in the election case, sharply rebutting the Coleman camp's new idea to nullify the whole election.
The letter mainly rebuts the Coleman camp's call to retroactively un-count a number of absentee ballots on a geographically-targeted basis. Team Franken argue that the binding case law says this is not a viable option, and that the court is not allowed to calculate that any illegal ballots favored one candidate over another -- that would be relieving Coleman of his responsibilities under the burden of proof.
Then they get to the proposition about throwing the election out:
Contestants' alternative and even more untimely suggest--that the election be set aside--fails as well. Not only has this remedy been applied primarily when there is evidence of fraud or systemic irregularities...but this Court lacks the authority to set aside the election. Its jurisdiction is limited to deciding which party received the highest number of legally cast votes, and therefore is entitled to receive the certificate of election... Any other remedy lies within the jurisdiction of the United States Senate.
And let's make no mistake, by the way. After this thing crisscrosses its way through the legal system, the United States Senate is probably where the fight will end up next, in light of the increasing noise from the Coleman campaign that the election is invalid.


















Coleman's endgame seems to be twofold:
1. To try to set up grounds for appeal in federal court after his inevitable loss in MN state courts.
2. To try to muddy the waters to give Senate Republicans talking points if they decide to try to prevent Franken's seating.
How are these likely to play out? My 2 cents:
1. After Franken's certification the Senate leaders will issue some kind of statement citing their Art I Sec 5 authority and effectively telling the federal courts to butt out. If Coleman petitions the SCOTUS for certiorari, I don't think he'll be able to convince 4 justices to take the case on. They won't want to risk looking impotent if the Senate tells them to bugger off.
2. There will be some rabid Senate Republicans who want to filibuster, but ultimately, there will be enough to think better of it, and Franken will be seated.
However, if the SCOTUS takes the case and the Senate does, indeed, assert its authority, we could be in for a doozy of a constitutional taffy pull.
March 3, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you have to have grounds for appeal? Like the judges gave incorrect instructions, or showed bias, or something else? Other than Coleman's own incompetent lawyers, what will he have? It seems the judges here have bent over backwards NOT to give him grounds for appeal.
Can any doofus just keep on appealing and wasting the court's time without grounds?
March 3, 2009 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
His federal appeal will undoubtedly be on Equal Protection grounds. They telegraphed that pretty well. It's then up to the judge to decide if he has sufficient grounds. In this case, he'd likely try to go directly to the SCOTUS. Then he has to convince at least 4 of the 9 justices to accept the case. Probably a longshot.
March 3, 2009 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strategically, Coleman's better move would be to forgo all appeals and take the contest directly to the Senate. Reason: he is unlikely to win any appeal, and every time he loses in court it will make it harder for the Senate Republicans to justify not seating Franken.
On the other hand, if he goes straight to the Senate the Republicans may be able to tie up Franken's seating indefinitely, effectively stalemating the election. Pawlenty then might try to nominate an interim Senator, or the MN Legislature might pass a law calling for a new election. Either possibility gives Coleman a potential path to regain the seat.
Summary: At this point Coleman has a better chance of success via the Senate than the courts, and continuing forward in the courts after the ECC decision will only hurt his chances in the Senate.
March 3, 2009 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hear you, but I don't think the Senate Republicans can stop Franken's seating. Their only chance is a filibuster, but I don't think they can pull it off. Think about the implications - if this becomes precedent, then any close election can be invalidated as long as its determination can be delayed past the normal start of the session. The R's might be looking at a lot of close elections in 2010. Do they really want to set a precedent that D's can use against them in 2 years? No doubt there will be some rabid Senate Republicans who want to filibuster, but I expect at least a few Republican Senators to think about this rationally.
March 3, 2009 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
But everything the Rebublicans have learned over the last decade will tell them that Republicans pull this over the top bonsai crap and Democrats play fair. So the Republicans can play any gambit they want with no fear of negative outcome for their side. Democrats "do what is good for the country". Republicans do anything to win. Hell, Norm Coleman wouldn't even be in this if not for a precipitously timed plane crash. Republicans will do anything to win.
March 3, 2009 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, cheap shot...but I did laugh pretty hard at the mental image of the Senate GOP caucus showing up on the floor with 41 carefully manicured miniature trees.
What with their being Republicans and all, I suppose they'd also bring tiny chainsaws and threaten microarboricide if Franken is seated...
March 3, 2009 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the word you are looking for is "banzai."
March 4, 2009 12:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't say Coleman's chances in the Senate were good, I just said (to repeat): "At this point Coleman has a better chance of success via the Senate than the courts, and continuing forward in the courts after the ECC decision will only hurt his chances in the Senate."
March 3, 2009 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I kinda like taffy ... when do they start pulling?
March 3, 2009 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd love to see the SC revive the "political questions" doctrine.
March 3, 2009 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methinks it really, really unlikely that SCOTUS will touch this case.
Compare to Bush v Gore:
Then: Five conservative judges to four, deciding who the next president would be. The majority had a strong self-interest in placing Bush in power, and therefore holding on to their own power. If Gore had been allowed to win, it was a sure thing that he would appoint justices that would side with the more liberal wing, shifting the balance of power.
Now: Coleman has nothing to offer SCOTUS. Even if Coleman ends up back in the senate, the Dems still control a large majority and are likely to have more than 60 votes in less than two years. Obama is in the WH and is likely to be there until the beginning of 2017. Congress and/or Obama can do a lot to reign in SCOTUS or overturn their decisions by changing the law, and a nod to Coleman would rally the troops against SCOTUS, diminishing their power and prestige.
Simply, SCOTUS gains nothing by getting involved, and risks much. Since the decision to get involved is up to their own discretion, their enlightened best-interests will be demonstrated by their polite, "No, thank you."
March 3, 2009 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed.
Add that Roberts doesn't have the cojones that the drug-addled Rehnquist did.
SCOTUS risks much in taking this case.
March 3, 2009 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice letter by Elias. I made a similar point on the burden of proof here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/coleman-lawyer-floats-new-possibility-to-judges-throwing-out-the-election.php#comment-3395001
There's another reason why a court should never pro-rata deduct votes: if it did so, it might end up REWARDING vote fraud. For example, let's say Candidate X arranges with a sympathetic local election officials to get 100 illegal votes added to his total in a precinct that favors Candidate Y by 60% to 40%. The illegal votes are detected, but no one (except the fraudster) knows who they were cast for. The court therefore applies proportional deduction, subtracting 60 votes from Candidate Y and 40 votes from Candidate X. The net result is the Candidate X is up 100-40=60 and Candidate Y is down by -60, for a net gain of 120 votes.
That's right, after stuffing the ballot box with 100 illegal votes, the candidate actually ends up 120 votes ahead because the Court deducted more votes from his opponent than from him.
This is why proportional deduction should NEVER be applied in an election, because an unscrupulous candidate or his supporters could actually use this to their benefit.
March 3, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I would say that "unscrupulous" doesn't even come close to describing the oily creep, Coleman. How can he even look in the mirror in the morning? Oh, never mind. The same way Bush, Cheney, Rush, and all the rest do -- they don't have any idea what or who they really are -- they are truly sociopathic.
March 3, 2009 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, when they look in the mirror, they see . . . nothing.
March 3, 2009 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Coleman appeals, this will be his grounds. All the other equal protection issues have been essentially resolved by the contest court. He might not be able to argue for a pro rata deduction, but he could potentially argue that county officials counted absentee ballots differently, and those ballots were included in the total both in the canvass and the recount in a way that makes it impossible to remove them from the tally. In that case, the finally tally will include a certain number of illegal votes that cannot be remedied. If so, Coleman will argue, the election must be invalidated.
The contest court can't grant him that remedy. The Supreme Court might be able to. I doubt they will, however, since that would essentially invalidate every single election ever.
See this: http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/comments/articles.php?ID=5273
This really is it for Coleman. He doesn't have anything else.
March 3, 2009 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The US Constitution makes it very clear that the US Senate is the "court of last resort" in matters involving elections of US Senators. I'm sure even this Repub majority US Supreme court can read the Constitution well enough to recognize that. So, Coleman will either win in his state courts or lose. Even if he wins in the state court, Franken can get the Democratic Senate to turn Coleman down and accept Franken as the legitimate Senator. So, all that Coleman, and his Repub backers, are doing is stalling to keep the Democratic majority reduced by one as long as is possible. The fat lady in backstage warming up right now.
March 3, 2009 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Constitution is also pretty clear that selection of Presidential Electors is a state matter, but that didn't stop the SCOTUS from overruling the FL SC and installing The Shrub in the WH.
March 3, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Senate is charged with determining the validity of elections (and appointments) to the Senate. I do not believe they have the power of affirmatively selecting a new senator. The state has to send someone up first. The Senate then either gives a thumbs up or thumbs down. That's why the Senate can't just accept Franken and could not accept Burris, until he got his golden ticket from Illinois.
Not sure what happens on a thumbs down. I suspect the state or the senator-elect could sue to force the Senate to accept the choice. Whether the state could pick someone else, hold another election or do something else would depend on individual state rules.
March 3, 2009 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would expect that when the MN-SC rules on Coleman's inevitable appeal, they will also instruct the Gov. and SoS to certify the election. The MN statute is pretty clear, and I don't see Pawlenty standing in the way.
March 3, 2009 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think you have to wait for the MN-SC to rule. This court will decide that Franken won and will instruct the Gov and SoS to certify that he has won. Coleman can appeal but that appeal won't stay the certification. Also Coleman can't go directly to the feds to challenge the election. He has to first exhaust the Minnesota courts. (Remember that in Bush-Gore, Bush had already gone to the Florida Supreme Court and he was asking the Supremes to reverse the Florida S CT. Coleman would have to go through the Minnesota appeal process first before he can seek relief from any federal court.
March 3, 2009 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope. MN statutes are pretty clear. No certificate until after the MN-SC rules. The good news is that the MN-SC will probably not take more than a few days.
March 3, 2009 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummm - Harry Reid will go with this? Nah.
March 3, 2009 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not again...
Changing the Senate rules needs a 2/3 majority. Not going to happen.
Once Franken has his certification in hand, he will be seated. Until then, it's not properly in front of Reid (or anyone else) to "accept" or not.
March 3, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, c'mon, can't we have a smiling picture of Coleman? I'll be as glad as anyone when Al finally takes his seat, but this scowl vs. smile thing is a little juvenile.
He did sponsor with Sens. Levin and Obama the Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act of 2007.
March 3, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Problem is, Coleman's smile is so disgusting it is worse than his scowl. When I look at his smiling face, I hear "Want some candy, little girl?"
March 3, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the past, they have used a picture of a smiling Coleman (in a suit), and a smiling Franken (wearing a sport shirt). I thought that was biased.
The problem with Coleman smiling is that his fancy store-bought teeth make him look like the big phony he is.
March 4, 2009 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The issue is not whether the courts think it is legally justified to toss the election. I'm sure they know it's a bogus argument. The real issue is whether they think that they can get away with tossing the election with some flimsy legal premise and help out Coleman. If they can, they will.
March 3, 2009 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the repubs are trying to do is declare the whole process illegitimate. Their goal is to portray an eventual and inevitable Franken senate seat as "tainted by fraud" and thus paint the dems as the party of corruption.
Since they still view this country as center right this will help them with their claim of divine right to rule. Casting anything the dems do as illegal and against the peoples' will.
Thus they will be able to assert that they are acting to preserve the constitution and nation from the now (in their eyes) entirely lawless "democrat" party. Much like Bush's signing statements they will only obey laws they like or that suit them.
The "illegitimate" seating of Franken will be their trump card for every senate decision that goes against their will.
March 4, 2009 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares? It never bothered them when Bush signed a law into being and then did a "signing statement" saying it didn't apply to him. They don't care that they decried the filibuster when applied to Bush's judicial appointments, but they are already threatening it for Obama's.
Who cares what those hypocrites say? Franken WON - without cheating the system -- which is more than George Bush can say.
Trump card? A trump card is something that causes you to win. Al Franken is the Democrats' trump card, and we should get used to using any trump cards we can, unashamedly.
March 4, 2009 8:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
However this all gets resolved (IF ever), when it is resolved, one thing is for certain.....
I'm gonna miss you guys. I've learned a lot about Constitutional law and I've even had a few laughs.
Down the line, TPM should hold a reunion for the posters on this thread. Sen. Franken can be the guest speaker....
March 4, 2009 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink