Uh, when did obama ever say that he wanted to micromanage the economy? I don't recall that one.

These fools are delusional. Nobody ever said they wanted the king to fail. That would have been stupid and nobody wanted him to fail. People wanted him to fail in responding to katrina? People wanted him to fail in iraq? People wanted him to fail in going after terrorists? Nope. These bozos are really outrageous.

This is great -- get the Goopers parsing their own language. That used to be how liberals got tripped up. Yeah, make them explain themselves over and over and over...

Well, maybe we can just get them to agree to pass the whole Obama agenda - so they can see if it fails. If they want failure and they believe the policies will fail, let's call their bluff! We can say: Ok, help us see if these things fail! Help us pass the legislation - and we'll have the experiment. If you're right, they will fail.

But if the experiment does not fail, the repub party platform obviously is built upon fallacies.

I challenge the repubs to let this experiment proceed! They had 8 years of bush and look where that got us. Now let's have 8 years of Obama. And compare the results!

Right after Pence said I listened to Rush say it a week ago I would have followed up asking was it right before or right after the Barack the Magic N song.

Consider the source. This is from a guy who said that Baghdad after The Surge was as safe as an Indiana farmer's market.

So they will muddy the argument now that they are stuck with it.

Can anyone imagine a dem getting away with this talk if they had made the statement against bush, for ex.?

There is something very weird going on that congress members are openly allowed by the media and other members to say this stuff without any retribution.

This is not a speech issue.

It borders on a call for the overthrow of the government.
And don't think for a second that the wing-nuts out there don't see it for exactly that.

Because these entrenched repigs represent districts that worship guns and only white men you can expect this talk to get worse as it becomes a direct appeal to their darkest beliefs.

This is scary stuff and I am going on record that I see extreme violence as the inevitable outcome if it is not called for what it is and stopped.

These guys just keep digging every time a reporter hands them a shovel. What are they going to say when the policies succeed? They are spending all this time claiming the want them to fail and they WILL fail. They are leaving themselves no back door. Just once I wish a reporter would ask them, "If they do succeed, will that cause you to have some introspection and rethink your political philosophy?"

Cannibalism: Not pretty.

Three years from Pence (and Rush) will be arguing that President Obama had nothing to do with the prosperity that will be obvious by then.

Wow. That's awesome.

It's like if you and I are trying to fix a car. We disagree on what course of action will work. You finally say "OK, we'll do it your way but I want your way to fail so we can do it my way."

What's our goal? To fix the car or to be right? If the former -- which common sense would say is the correct answer -- you shouldn't hope that my way fails, but be happy that you have an alternate fix should mine not work. Hoping you can institute your solution means that you're more interested in being the one to put a fix in place than actually fixing the car.

After these emotionally retarded sorts give their reactionary response to what they conjure the Presidents position to be and I get a good laugh, I sometimes have a brief wave of depression. There are so many of these complete buffoons in office impeding the adult business of the country...it's really sad.

Has anyone else noticed that Rush speaks as if were a "King"? He pontificates in a one-way media, using public airwaves (Fairness Doctrine anyone?) to speak to his "court" of followers. He has never held an elected position of leadership - apparently anointed "King" by his "gang" of die hard Konservative listeners. Leave them to it, I say. But keep a close eye on them for the unhinged wingnut to inevitably surface.

Two things strike me. First, this is the crowd, who along with Bush, declared that they didn't have to pay any attention to facts on the ground. They could create their own version of reality by spinning things their way loudly and constantly.
Second, I remember Norquist and other Republicans plotting openly to run up the deficit so that there would be no money left for anything the Democrats wanted. I can't find that link - can anyone else?

These guys are getting harder and harder to see in the rearview mirror. I don't think there's even going to be anyone waving to them from the back seat. Shoot, buses aren't even going to stop for them. Just leave them back there wandering around in a dust storm trying to find a direction. We've got better things to do and places to go. Bye bye GOPpers. Try to stay off the middle of the road or you'll get run over.

addendum - "we want those policies to fail" -- Pence

If the policies succeed, America will be better off, and Pence's belief will have proven false.

What Pence probably meant factually was that he didn't want to see the policies even tried, he'd want the bills to not be passed and become law. What he meant actually was something like, "I feel so impotent and I'm letting you know!"

Pence can't tell the difference between smart government and big government. I think this might apply to many Repos. You can imagine why they have a problem with this notion...