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Geithner and Bernanke Face the Furies

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke are testifying before the House Financial Services committee as you read this. We'll be following today's hearing pretty closely, both because we (ahem) value your readership, but also because the hearing's shaping up to be much more interesting than originally anticipated.

Two big stories broke yesterday, both of which Josh wrote about over at the mother ship. Suddenly there's much more at stake than the question of when Geithner knew about the AIG bonuses. There's now also the questions of the extent to which the administration has handed over the shaping of bailout possibility to the bad financial actors themselves, and of the possibility that the administration will seek extraordinary power going forward to seize distressed non-bank financial institutions like hedge funds and investment firms. That could have huge ramifications for the government's power over regular banks, which often own such institutions, and, depending on the scope of the legislation, for much smaller institutions as well.

Stay tuned.


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Congress is outraged over the possibility that Obama wants to regulate and/or seize the speculative vehicles that have destroyed our economy? Is there one sensible person on Capitol Hill?

Christ, based on the sky-is-falling rhetoric coming from many people I generally respect, this regulation might be the only good thing that comes out of this debacle. But I guess giving a Democratic president expanded power in times of crisis is simply unacceptable to morons of both parties.

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both because we (ahem) value your readership

like I (ahem) value your writing, hack!

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"'Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!'"

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A point I raised yesterday, Brad DeLong picks up in today's New York Times.

The economists can flap your gums all you want and god knows that's why they make the big bucks, and while you may fairly take issue with the views of one or another economic expert (such a menu of different opinions), the political reality is as ignored in the debate as it is beyond dispute:


Why isn’t the administration doing the entire job? My guess is that the Obama administration wants to avoid anything that requires legislative action. The legislative tacticians appear to think that after last week’s furor over the A.I.G. bonuses, doing more would require a congressional coalition that is not there yet. The Geithner plan is one the administration can do on authority it already has.

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Mark Thoma adds:

{If Geithner Plan fails), we will need to end the program as quickly as possible and minimize losses. The next step will have to be bank nationalization, though the political climate will be difficult. Sticking with the plan until it completely crashes and burns on the hope that a little more time is all that is needed will make nationalization much more difficult.


Assumes that nationalization would be politically possible today - that congress would authorize and fund.


Who believes that?

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Corrolary:

The nationalizers also implicitly assume by omitting any discussion that their solution somehow won't cost the taxpayers

Folks there is no free lunch...Say what you will of the Geithner Plan and I am all for nationalizing the banks and wiping out their shareholders, bondholders and incompetent managers, but at least I am honest enough to concede that this will cost far more than the Geithner Plan

Pearlstein gets it:

As for the nationalization mantra, it's hard to see what that would accomplish. If the government were to take them over and assure depositors and creditors they would be repaid in full -- which is what you need to do to avoid a collapse of the financial system -- then there is little effective difference from a plan designed to rid banks of their bad assets. Nationalization doesn't make the bad loans go away -- it simply moves them from the banks to the government, with the government on the hook for any additional losses. For the worst banks, that may turn out to be necessary, as it was in the case of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG and Citigroup, all of which have been effectively taken over by the government. But wholesale nationalization would likely require a bigger outlay of taxpayer funds, at least initially, while putting the government in the uncomfortable position of managing large and complex businesses with 535 members of Congress suddenly sitting on their boards of directors.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/23/AR2009032302800.html?nav=igoogle

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Krugman, DeLong, Johnson, Thoma (sounds like a law firm!)

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http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/will-the-geithner-plan-work/?hp#delong

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Congress may doubt the fed or Treasury's ability to regulate. But Congress itself has done a pretty miserable job.

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I'd be a little less dismissive of Congress if they had shown the least bit of concern about this crisis before it fully manifested.

For all of the bashing Obama is receiving from commentators, do we really want to trust future regulation of these financial service behemoths to Evan Bayh and Steny Hoyer?

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Consider just the AIG kerfuffle. What if we were to nationalize the Big 5 banks? Comforted that Congress will manage them R we?

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