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Steele: "I'm Sorta Old-School" On Rap -- And I Like Sinatra And The "Pack Rats"

Check out this line from Michael Steele, in an interview with GQ, discussing the rap artists that he's listened to over the years:

Who do you listen to?
I actually listen to a cross section, because I like to hear what the medium is saying, what the voice is.

But do you have a favorite?
P. Diddy I enjoy quite a bit.

Do you want to rethink that?
[laughs] I guess I'm sorta old-school that way. Remember, I came of age with the DJ and all this other stuff, so I'm also loving Grandmaster Flash, and that's not hip-hop, but... Um, you know, I like Chuck D. And I always thought Snoop Dogg was--he just reminded me of the fellas back home. So I've always thoroughly enjoyed him.

This is not to say he is any kind of poser -- maybe he does listen to those acts, and we should take him at his word.

But now take a look at his statement that he's a big fan of Frank Sinatra and the other guys in the "Pack Rats":

Who else?
I like Sinatra. I like old-school. You know, Bing Crosby, Sinatra, Dean Martin. Love Dean Martin. He was one of these guys who just didn't give an F. He just didn't. Life was a party, and you either want to party or you don't. But yeah, I like those. I'm a big Pack Rat. I love the Pack Rats from the 1950s--Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra, those guys.

You mean the Rat Pack.
The Rat Pack, yeah.

So Steele doesn't just sound like a middle-aged man trying to talk to his kids and failing to sound cool. He's also trying to talk to his parents and failing to sound cool.


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Maybe Mitt Romney can burn him his Baja Men album.

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Yeah, I'm a big fan of Snoopy Dog Dog also!

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Well that was my milk shooter of the morning. Well played.

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He also admitted to being pro-choice before realizing what he might have stepped in and trying to backtrack.

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Isn't it funny that the head of the Republican National Committee is pro-choice while the head of the Democratic National Committee is pro-life?

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I think all pro-choice democrats are pro-life . So, I'd call the other group anti-choice and not pro-life. Anyways, you know what I mean.

With Steele however, I'm not sure if he's pro-choice. I don't think he believes is anything, I don't think he's has hard set of values.

If Rush tells him, he will kill puppies, convert White and become anti-choice.

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yeah.

tpm kinda buried-or completely ignored-the lede on this one.

whats more important: the head of the rnc's musical taste? or the head of the rnc saying he's pro-choice?

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A Republican who has a genuine conservative position, a Catholic who openly disagrees with the Pope and the Evangelicals.

He's certainly given the Republican Party a higher profile.

How do you solve a problem like Michael Steele? How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?

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Uh, why isn't Grandmaster Flash hip-hop? Is he claiming that early rap isn't hip-hop?

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Three things...Grand Master Flash IS hip-hop...diddy is really NOT a rapper and Chuck D is Wayyyyyyyyyyy to conscious for Steele's little mind...trying to floss and don't even know how....

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"I love Chuck D but have no idea what any of the words meant in his songs. Flava Flav!"

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Hey boiiiy!

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I will give Steele some slack on this. Okay he screwed up on the "Pack Rats" but we all have screwed up on things like this in our lives. I'll give him a break on this.

In terms of his musical taste, his taste is similar to mine. He is older than I am but he did grow up during the time when hiphop was just starting out with such DJ's as Grandmaster Flash, etc.

A suggestion I have for Steele is that he needs to just keep quiet for a month and give NO INTERVIEWS. Instead he should just concentrate on hiring folks for the RNC and raising money.

IMO, the less he speaks right now the BETTER it would be for him. Maybe he loves the attention or something but you don't see Kaine running around giving interviews on how the DNC needs to be more "hip hop" and what his musical taste is.

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IMO, the less he speaks right now the BETTER it would be for him. Maybe he loves the attention or something but you don't see Kaine running around giving interviews

Has ANY RNC/DNC head in recent memory tried to make himself or herself a "celebrity" like this? Steele is the first time I can remember a ?NC head giving interviews *at all*. The only ?NC head I can remember anytime recently really being a national political figure was Howard Dean, and once he started being the DNC head it seems to me like he really tried to stay out of the media eye.

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I remember McAuliffe and Mehlman both being fairly active in the media.

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This guy is certifiable. I know its funny and entertaining, but it really is frightening. The leadership of the opposition is nuts. The bulk of the remaining gopers in congress are nuts. WTF. We are in the 21st century and we are supposedly one of the leading democracies in the world and the leadership and members of one of the parties that just might wind up ruling again are totally certifiable. Last time they ruled and had their hands on the nuke codes it was a catastrophe and we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. I really don't understand how this is possible. I just don't get it.

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He does do a lot of tap dancing.

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This guy is so absurd in every stereotypically Republican way that I am only half-joking when I ask this: Is he REALLY not white?

I know what you'll say: Michael Steele has been around and black for decades. In which case I will just take my conspiracy theory up another notch: Is it possible that the RNC abducted Michael Steele, found a white look-alike they could use as a stand-in (thereby avoiding actually having to put a black guy in a position of leadersehip -- genius!), and presto! This preposterous caricature of Republicanism was born.

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Did he really say Dean Martin did'nt give an "f"? Did he really say that?

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Eric:

Your post is funny, TPM and you have missed the real news story here.

This @$$hat in the same GQ interview admitted openly- for the first time at least in his capacity as an a RNC chair- that he's prochoice.

Its news because he just hit another nail on his own RNC coffin.

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Michael Steele's smile is proof that nature decorates a vacuum until it finds time to deal with it.

Seriously: is it possible for a black man to inspire blonde jokes? Or is this an episode of Fresh Prince of Bel Air?

Uh-oh:

Carlton Banks
Carlton Banks (played by Alfonso Ribeiro), born August 4, 1974, is Will's pedantic and preppy cousin. Carlton is a firmly conservative Republican, and proves both friend and foe for Will. Although Carlton and Will often trade insults, Carlton obviously cares about Will by referring to him as "the brother I've always wanted." His role model is talk show host Bryant Gumbel, and his favorite singer is Tom Jones. His favorite actor is William Shatner, whom he annoys by making lame Star Trek jokes. Carlton also idolizes Macaulay Culkin, whom he once dressed up as for Halloween."

Somebody better notify The Onion.

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I gotta say, I kinda like him after this interview. I mean, does he really seem that far off from a conservative Dem? If he can move the party away from the racists and radicals and more towards himself, I think we have a better country with two reasonable parties.

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This guy is so phoney, I'm expecting him to add Sir to his name, any moment now.

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Michael Steele's parents would not have listened to Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin or the other "pack rats." They were more likely to be listening to Johnny Hartman or Billy Eckstein. But who knows, his parents might have been Ozzie and Harriet. *SNORT!*

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tick, tick, tick...

The published comments on abortion rights and homosexuality as something other than a choice are the end of the line in this party. I give him until about Friday late afternoon to "resign for personal reasons."

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"Life was a party, and you either want to party or you don't."

Yes, indeed.

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Lets not do a Stalinist revision of history here. As unbelievable as it appears to be Michael Steele is correct on one point. Early rap is NOT, i repeat NOT, hip hop. Hip hop wasnt even in the lexicon until the early 90s at which point Rap was already almost 20 years old. AS one who grew up at the epicenter of rap {NYC} the phrase "hip hop" was never mentioned or thought of. Hip hop, like some kind of Soviet annexation, absorbed raps glorious legacy to legitimize itself. Rap icons embrace this concept as a way to stay relevant and make money. A pox on Grandmaster Flash, Sugar Hill and the rest for musical and artistic prostitution at the highest level. Artists like Whodini, UTFO and other were NOT hip hop artists, they were rappers period. Moreover its a total stretch to call hip hop a music form Call it a movement, call it a culture, just dont call it music. Last point and I'm done. R&B is dead and hip hop holds the smoking murder weapon. What was once the staple of a entire civilizaton, R&B, has had the talent and life wrung out of it by hip hop. Michael Steele has been thus far in hos RNC chairmanship been 0 for forever. But he hit this one right on the head. Last gasp of a dying man.

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You're acting like you're older and more out of touch than Steele! R&B is dead? A pox on Grandmaster Flash? "Hiphop" wasn't in the lexicon til the early 90s? You say you're from NYC -- Upper West Side, perhaps?

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Hip Hop is to Rap as New Wave was to Punk.

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The Pack Rats. Y'know. A buncha cool guys who like to collect stuff and pile it up in their houses. Magic Mike's down with that.

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