Hillary To Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN): "President Obama Won The Election"
During today's hearing before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Hillary Clinton made something clear to a very critical Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN): President Obama won the 2008 election.
Pence gave a lengthy question in which he criticized Obama for being seen shaking hands with Hugo Chávez, and asked Hillary about the negative effects of this event. In her response, Hillary explained that Obama is taking a different approach than what has been tried in the recent past and didn't work -- and that Obama is the president:
"We want your constructive criticism, we want your feedback," said Clinton. "But President Obama won the election. He beat me in a primary, in which he put forth a different approach, and he is now our president. And we all want our president, no matter of which party, to succeed, especially in such a perilous time."




















Just so we have this straight:
Non-democratically selected communist dictators of authoritarian states are okay.
Democratically elected socialist president of constitutional republic are not.
Looks like Hugo needs to obliterate private media, abolish any mechanism for his removal from office, and slaughter a few million of his own citizens before Mike Pence would consider it morally acceptable to deal with him.
April 22, 2009 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes indeed. How much of a true beacon of democracy are we when our response to free elections -- in Venezuela, in Gaza, in Iraq -- is "Waitaminnit, I don't like that guy!"
April 22, 2009 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mike Pence = another GOPer Grandstander. Content-free, for your viewing (dis)pleasure.
April 22, 2009 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep!
April 22, 2009 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
or in other words... "STFU - with all due respect"
April 22, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know! Smack him again, Hillary!
April 22, 2009 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I must say that was fun to watch. I like the way her voice started on the low side and gradually got louder and louder. There was a lot of feeling behind her words. I am glad she didn't end it standing up, leaning forward on the table. She does us proud.
April 23, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS! FOR HILLARY!
April 23, 2009 1:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a team!
April 22, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep!
April 22, 2009 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! I didn't like Clinton before...she seems to be winning me over. Isolating governments that sell us oil isn't in our interest. I don't know if anyone remembers the Saudis preventing exports of oil to the US in the 80's and the long lines at the pump. I'm sure Chavez hold that card.
April 22, 2009 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good God in Heaven! Still with the freaking handshake?
STILL?
We're watching the Republican Party circle the drain.
April 22, 2009 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The noise you hear is that sucking noise as they go down.
April 22, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe they are scared that Chavez gave Obama the cooties.
"Do you want a president with cooties presiding over our country? I don't have cooties. Other flag raising Republicans don't have cooties. But Obama does, in fact, have cooties. Cooties are unAmerican and we don't have to stand for it."
April 22, 2009 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Maybe they are scared". Yes, that about covers everything, doesn't it?
They're cootiephobic.
Or something.
April 22, 2009 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you've got it pegged. It must have taken some painstaking investigative journalism to get so deep into the GOP psyche. I commend you immensely.
April 22, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least someone speaks the truth
April 22, 2009 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find this all so very odd. The election is OVER. Stop with the campaigning. It's one thing to say the following:
"The President did [fill in the blank], which most of us now agree caused [fill in the blank with a bad thing]. What say you?"
This is important. Lets review what we have done, and find out if we can do better next time. Compare to this:
"The President is doing [fill in the blank]. This strikes me as dangerously naive, and, I feel, is sending the wrong message to our enemies."
Here, Pence is prejudging based on cherry picked actions weighed against a failed outcome that he incorrectly deems as successful.
I walk a fine line here, because I remember getting in these arguments with those on the Right when Bush was in office. Where does constructive criticism end and rank partisanship begin?
April 22, 2009 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give 'em hell, Hillary :)
April 22, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
For once, we agree! Give 'em hell, Hillary!
April 22, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, Secretary Clinton. Excellent answer to a ridiculous question. Just as ridiculous as those who said you would sabotage Obama as his SOS.
April 22, 2009 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Way to go, Hil! Congressman Pence was looking for a gotcha. What did he get? -a swing and a miss!
April 22, 2009 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I think what Pense got was the receiving end of a "gotcha"!
April 22, 2009 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we know what the Republican response to this will be, right?
"Hillary Clinton said she's loved this country since the time she was a little girl. WHAT ABOUT THE TIME BEFORE SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL? DID SHE HATE OUR COUNTRY AT BIRTH????!!@#!#!#"
April 22, 2009 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hu larry us!!! Except they will also now challenge HER birth certificate as inauthentic!
April 22, 2009 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
No! No! She hated the country when she was in the womb! Because that's when people count the most!
April 22, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
where's the little checkbox for recommending you? Awesome.
April 22, 2009 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Burton and Pence are perfect examples of the small gene pool that is Indiana.
One would have to assume that these shitkickers did not have access to the clip from Venezuelan television which showed the terse exchange between Obama and Chavez.
April 22, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! We don't all swim in the shallow end.
April 22, 2009 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can take the talk show demagogue out of the broadcast booth, but you can't take the grandstanding scumbag out of the demagogue.
April 22, 2009 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! Hillary is my hero!!!
April 22, 2009 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
As much as she drove me crazy during the primary, she's kicking ass as secretary of state. Got to give her her due. Outstanding performance today and throughout the past three months.
April 22, 2009 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Billiary Clinton -No standards from which to measure - Husband is just the same: for all the lies he told and all the women he was sinking putts with on the company golf course still try not to get caught having their picture taken.
The Ole dude if calling the ho What wondrful mnemories,,
April 23, 2009 1:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mike Pence might be one of the dumbest people in Congress today. He neither understands where this country came from, where we are or where we're going. Instead he reacts to immediate events without the benefit of being aware of history. I fail to understand how this dimwit made it this far in life.
April 22, 2009 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle Bachman called. She says hi.
And I've got John Boehner on Line 2.
April 22, 2009 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ding ding ding!
JOe Barton? C'mon down!
This question from Barton makes Boehner and Bachmann look like real pikers in the Stupid Category. . .
April 22, 2009 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talk about your "race to the bottom"...
April 22, 2009 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's so purty.
April 22, 2009 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
What happened to your "Monster" blog? Did you delete it?
April 22, 2009 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah.
April 22, 2009 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every day proves more and more that we Democrats had two exceptionally capable candidates to choose from, and both do us a tremendous service by working together.
April 22, 2009 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, hear!
April 22, 2009 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Pence, you got spanked. Now, STFU.
April 22, 2009 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Thugs apparently need to be reminded as often as possible that OBAMA WON THE ELECTION. Good for the SOS for doing her part. Oh, and Biff Diggerence, Indiana went for Obama in November. Douchebag politicians come from all over, so why don't you take whatever problem you have with my home state and stuff it up your ass?
April 22, 2009 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Note to GOP:
You lost, and so did your approach to the world (you know, the one that begins ansd ends with a middle finger)
Give 'em hell.
p.s off topic but if waterboarding isn't torture, why doesn't DICK have to try it out for us to prove that?
April 22, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric, with all due respect, shouldn't the media be referring to the Secretary of State as "Clinton"? I can't remember ever reading news articles that talked about Condoleeza or Madeleine or Colin.
Just a small thing, from a former journalist. Thanks!
April 22, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
For most prominent female political figures, I would agree. But Hillary's campaign signs didn't say "Clinton." They said "Hillary." It's how we know her.
Plus, she's a superstar -- just like Tyra or Madonna. One name is enough.
April 22, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whereas the good Representative Mike Pence is just ... "Mr. Pence." :)
April 22, 2009 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's okay by me if we refer to the distinguished gentlemen, BTW, as "shitbag," or similar.
April 22, 2009 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Hillary's an icon and therefore can be referred to by her first name.
April 22, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, we all can call her Hillary ... I just think actual news articles should stick with the same standard they use for everyone else. (We editors are a REALLY anal retentive breed...)
April 23, 2009 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
when the guy you disagree with wins the election, he's probably going to do things you disagree with.
and yet, this logic seems lost on republicans.
April 22, 2009 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you'd think they wouldn't be so shocked about him doing things HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
April 22, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent pnwage. This really shows the wisdom of having a secretary of state of Clinton's stature.
April 22, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep!
April 22, 2009 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You go, girl!
I'm waiting to see folks like Christopher Hitchens (and many posters here) say they were wrong about what a disaster Hillary would be as SOS because she would spend every day plotting against Obama and trying to make him look bad. I don't expect that will happen, though, since Hitchens is still saying invading Iraq was the right thing to do. pompus windbag.
April 22, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary was great today! I am donating some funds against her debt and thanking her for working with our president to re-establish the U.S. as a respected leader in the world.
April 22, 2009 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, the Gentleman's time has definitely expired.
Pence is still frozen in 1993 it seems.
There's a flavor here of Stevenson in the UN, with the blowups of Cuban missiles, calling the Russians liars. Hillary would have made a great president. She just waited 4 years too long.
April 22, 2009 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woman, for this be many of thy sins forgiven thee.
April 22, 2009 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK: I'll go first:
Yes, I absolutely hated Clinton during the primaries. I hated her husband. I hated the 2 of them together. I hated them separately.
I thought it was absolutely brilliant reasoning to invite her into the cabinet ("I want to know where you AND your husband are at all times" kind of strategy), but I thought she AND Bill would be a constant source of madness for President Obama. Especially President Clinton.
I was wrong. SOS Clinton has been absolutely a very bright, capable, strong, steady presence in the Administration. She was a perfect person (high status with her own power base and "aura")to reinvigorate diplomacy after almost a decade of extreme militarism.
And after seeing her performance today: Strong, clear, not dancing around the perfectly reasonable women's health/abortion nexus (thank you, SOS Clinton, for not being coy about the work "ABORTION") - exquisite.
So: There you have it. I think I feel better...-)
April 22, 2009 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never particularly appreciated HC and loathed her in the primary. I thought Obama was brilliant to get her out of the Senate and working for him, and I thought it would be a good fit, but its even better than I had hoped. While Obama has had to focus so much of his attention on financial things, I'm sure he very much appreciates knowing that matters of state are in such capable hands.
April 22, 2009 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so glad that Hillery is on our side. I think that the Republicans will think twice before they attempt to go toe-to-toe with our great Sec. of State, Hillery Clinton. What a wonderful pick for Sec. of State.
April 22, 2009 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way, Obama also won in Pence's state.
April 22, 2009 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pence, the value of Mike's thoughts.
April 22, 2009 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
First "Cheney is not a reliable source" and now this. Love watching her ropes these dopes!
April 22, 2009 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I, too, take it all back. Hillary, that was a grand slam. And we're real lucky to have you on the team!
I am just psyched by this!! :)
April 23, 2009 1:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Being from Indiana, I agree with Hillary. Obama won the election, and Pence is an idiot. He's trying to make a name for himself in national Republican politics and since he has Rush Limbaugh's blessing, he will probably go far in Wingnut Land. Indiana has been hit hard economically though, and Pence needs to do more than just bash Obama if he wants to stay in elected office.
April 23, 2009 6:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Douche.
April 23, 2009 7:06 AM | Reply | Permalink