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Historian Michele Bachmann Blames FDR's "Hoot-Smalley" Tariffs For Great Depression

Make no mistake: When it comes to economics, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) knows her history -- even if that history is from another planet.

On Monday night, our friends at Dump Bachmann reported, Bachmann took to the House floor and paid tribute to the economic policies of Calvin Coolidge and the "Roaring 20s" (the era that ended with a massive monetary contraction and the Great Depression). One particular line really does stand out, though -- saying Franklin Roosevelt turned a recession into a depression through the "Hoot-Smalley" tariffs:

Here's what really happened: When Franklin Roosevelt took office, unemployment was already about 25%. And the tariff referred to here was actually the Smoot-Hawley bill, co-authored by Republicans Sen. Reed Smoot of Utah and Rep. Willis Hawley of Oregon, and signed into law by President Herbert Hoover.

Interestingly, this speech also happened on the same day as when Bachmann connected the 1970s swine flu outbreak to Democrat Jimmy Carter being president, even though it was actually Gerald Ford in office at the time.

Late Update: A shout-out to Liberal in the Land of Conservative for also noticing Bachmann's false attribution of the tariff bill to Roosevelt -- and also to Matt Yglesias for pointing to the metaphysical possibilities.


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What would we do without our daily Michele Bachmann fix?

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Palin/Bachmann 2012!!!

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Palin/Bachmann? Unlikely:

The Republican Party is not currently connected strongly enough to reality to understand that they shouldn't nominate a candidate for the Vice Vice Presidency, too. So, I give you:

Palin/Bachman/Joe the Plumber '12

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As great as those two women really are, they're going to need a jump on fixin' all that big goverment interference in real America and stoppin' the Democrat party.

I say Palin/Bachmann 2011 'cause they care too much about the country to let reality get in their way. You betcha *wink*.

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In Bachmann-speak, I guess that would be Balin/Pachmann 2012!!

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Sorry to pick nits, but I think you meant to say 2102.

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Well there'd be less comedy in the political news, that's for sure.

The sad part is, there are bound to be dittoheads somewhere mindlessly repeating these talking points....

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I can't believe it. I just can't believe it. You're right: EVERY DAY. Un Freaking Real.

Okay so, you're this rock-ribbed nazi, sitting there, waiting for the latest bit of enabling rhetoric from the media stars of the Disloyal Opposition... and out walks Michelle.

You listen.

You get that feeling in the pit of your stomach: "Oh... no... not... again..!!"

Then, you force a painful frozen smile onto your face, and find yourself clapping and cheering a woman who just made the latest in a long line of statements, which can most charitably be described as "retarded".

This all cannot be anything but excruciating, for the R's. I predict a rash of cop-assisted suicides, in the Red states.

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You know, I've been trying really hard not to use the word "retarded" to describe Bachmann and the kind of people who think that she's just wonderful. Help me with this somebody. What's another word I can use that won't offend people whose mental handicaps are not of their own making?

I'm looking for a word that describes a kind of self-inflicted condition in which large portions of the brain are rendered completely inert.

It does seem to resemble the effects of asphyxiation. Could it be that Bachmann has been trying to avail herself of the healthful effects of carbon dioxide in large doses?

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How about "cognitively challenged"?

Of course "ignorant Republican asshat" works well too - I guess which one you choose depends on your audience.

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You all it is far more simpler and deeply pathological.

Bachmann exhibits total mythology, the idea that the past can be changed to fit her own pathological delusions. It was what was done in Europe before WWII, the growth of this mythology then was not challenged by the depth of knowledge and dissent as it is today but Bachmann (and Palin) still try it.

They believe their ideology is correct regardless of the outcomes, that doesn't matter because they must be right. Forget the idea that laissez faire economics and the Mellon response to the crash of 29. The only way to believe that this was correct is to change history and find those willing to hear it.

Now I have loony tunes GOP acquaintances who do this----when confronted they get serious cognitive dissonance and then attack----it is pathological.

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She wanted words that they could understand. I doubt any of her followers would understand "cognitively"

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That's why I supplied "asshat". I figured Recto-Crainal Insertion Syndrome, RCIS, would baffle them as well - no matter how well it explains why she's always talking out of her ass.

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I'm going to have to go with "Ingsoc."

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How about "Dumbass"?

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"Brain-dead" is good, because the only people you'd be insulting can't hear you.

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"Bizzaro" is a good choice, I think. Aside from the alliteration, the adjective oozes with self-inflicted other-worldliness.

Or maybe go whole-hog and create an adjective in her honor?

"Bachmanzaro"

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Wing-Nut is a great all encompassing term and our little Michelle is the Wing-nuttiest!

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"Crazy, not stupid."

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Self-lobotomized?

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My wife is a former pre-school special education teacher, and I just called her and read your post to her. She understands your concern, but firmly agrees with her two teaching assistants that you can comfortably and accurately call Michele Bachman "retarded."

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Askeptic; against skepticism

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I emailed this to Josh: Botch Woman!

She botches everything up!

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But doesn't she have staff to fact check and correct her before she goes out and says these things? When I first saw it I was drinking my water and proceeded to spit it all over the desk.

This is beyond unbelievable. I can't even explain what I mean.

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I'm hoping your correct on the suicide thingy (smile)

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Then, you force a painful frozen smile onto your face, and find yourself clapping and cheering a woman who just made the latest in a long line of statements, which can most charitably be described as "retarded".

Aha! So that's what the "R" stands for!

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She was under the radar (except for the GWB mugging)until about October, 2008. Now she's in the spotlight daily, I guess because someone finally directed the light her direction.

Someone in her district HAS to be accumulating these fabrications for a campaign ad. Unfortunately for them, the ad will have to be about 3 hours long to provide snippets of every doozy this gal throws out there.

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The sad fact is that she was only under the national radar, she was shining brightly on the MN radar back when she was a School Board member and later as a State Senator saying and doing ridiculously stupid things. Go check out the archives at http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/ to see that her lunacy hasn't changed at all in a decade. With that sort of history behind her, you'd think that residents of MN-06 would be better informed about what kind of politician she is, but the major media supporting her district parsed her words and actions down to just reporting on her dog whistles - And that's all the majority of the people in MN-06 are capable of hearing. Bachmann has no problem with lying about things she's said and done in the past and voters in her district are too "Minnesota Nice" to call her on her bullshit.

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Not to be insensitive, but someone ought to make sure that she takes her meds. Yesterday was an "off" day, no?

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Hell, someone needs to make her read an 8th grade history book.

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Heh, yeah. Or even some Cliff Note summary.

I know what we think about Bachmann here, but I wonder what other Reps think about our beloved crazy in the House? What's it like to work with her week by week? Does she drink coffee in the morning or tea? Does she have an awesome bowling game? Inquiring minds want to know!

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Make her stop! My abs hurt! I can't laugh anymore!

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By the way, has anyone on the internet assembled a Yogi Berra- or Dan Quayle-style list of humorous remarks yet?

Such a thing surely must exist by now.

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No! No! It would be like the joke in the Monty Python "Funniest Joke in the World" sketch- reading it would be fatal.

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My sister died trying to create such a list.

Not funny, not cool.

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I'm not clear on why everyone thinks she's such a freak, as Republicans go. She's fully internalized the anti-objectivism at the core of the modern Republican Party's ideology and it has made are a leading Party orator. Indeed, she is, in every way, the perfect Republican. I'll be really surprised if she doesn't give Sarah a run for her money for the 2012 nomination.

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The thing is, very few of the real Republicans actually believe this crap. They just peddle it to their brain-dead supporters for effect. Anyone actually stupid enough to believe this would need help tying their shoes.

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I'm really not so sure about that anymore. As I said on another thread, I really think a lot of them have fallen into the classic trap of totalitarian parties of coming to believe their own propaganda.

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Loafers were invented by a Republican.

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Is that a verb or a noun?

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shes great..

i wonder if she really thinks people want the "roaring twenties" that lead to the great depression as our solution to our own depression..

shes a piece of work.

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A piece of something, but work isn't exactly the word I was looking for.

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Before Michele Bachmann went to Oral Roberts and majored in TheoCon Stupidity, she was a Democrat who worked in the Twin Cities office for Jimmy Carter's 1976 Presidential Campaign. Now, I don't mean to suggest that she had any greater level of rational intelligence in her formidable political youth, but that trip down to Tulsa and her marriage to Marcus "I Can Cure The Gay" Bachmann sent her straight over the friggin' edge.

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Is that "Hoot-Smalley" as in Stuart Smalley?

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I guess in Bachmann-world, Franken shares with FDR the power to enact legislation years before he's in office. Cool!

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Franken was a Hoot as Stuart Smalley.

The GOP crazy train has left the station.

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I guess I'll be first: That Michelle Bachmann is a real "hoot-smalley"

I wouldn't want to be a Democrat in that chamber trying to hold in my strangled guffaws of derisive laughter. Or worse, a moderate Republican.

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You couldn’t make stuff like this up, because no one would believe it.

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Please tell me there was at least one other dumb thing she said yesterday, because it would really be a shame for her to miss out on the Hat-Trick.

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I'd like to see her Hoots.

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C'mon now... Remember, she's not very bright.

After giving birth to her first child she was instructed by her doctor to begin breastfeeding and realized that after her second child she had run completely out of "Hoots".

What you now see is a couple of handfuls of wadded-up Charmin stuffed into a mastectomy bra.

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Yeah, let's have some more of them roarin' twenties. Oh wait, we just had a similar bubble of arcane financial nonsense burst in our faces...

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I'd like to burst on her Hoots.

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I think she is vying for a future spot on Fox News or to have her own show like Newt Gingrich. I am not sure we are serving her or the public well giving her so much attention... I think that's what she's after and it's working for her.

Having said that talk about extremely off her rocker. As others have said, please make sure she takes her meds.

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That may well be. On the other hand, I like to think that this kind of publicity generates enough astonishment (that a public servant is glaringly unprofessional in so many ways) that it will hurt her politically. Granted, I'm probably deluding myself.

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Bachmann recently hired a third press-related secretary. She's got one serving in her district, one serving her DC office and a third that lines her up for national media appearances. With that many media "experts" on her side, you'd think maybe one or two might give her some advice about saying shit that blows up in her face, but apparently the DC and MN-06 press people are only there to send out the obigatory "that's not what she meant to say" or "the media has misconstrued her words" bulletins after the fact.

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So that explains the need for a third...cranking out "clarifications" and attacks on the media for quoting their boss has to have the first two working overtime.

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There it is, folks. THE WORST JOB IN THE WORLD!

Can you just imagine the private conversations between Bachmann media staffers? Especially, after she has yet another "Oops, I did it again!" moment?

L, as these kids today say, OL.

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A good part of the reason that she's now in the U.S. House and able to spout off through a huge megaphone is that her insanity didn't get the attention it should have gotten while she was in the MN legislature. If more people knew just how much of a loon she is, she might not have made it this far.

Bush was below a lot of people's radar, too, and look where he ended up.

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Blogs should have a comedy section for their Bachman related posts.

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No doubt she was thinking of Stuart Smalley. You know, that guy she's hoping won't become the junior senator from her home state.

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Oops, just noticed that someone beat me to the punch on that joke. My apologies, cosmic cowboy.

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What a hoot! Quite!

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Y'know, I think the GOP has a dynamite triumvirate to throw at the Dems in '12: Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and Katherine Harris. I'm sure the good folks in the Republican Party can figure out a way to interpret the Constitution as allowing a three-person national ticket, and the comedic possibilities are just too wonderful to contemplate. I think one campaign slogan might be: "Sure, We're Batshit. So?"

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What an imbecile. Let's not forget the idiots who voted this embarrassment into congress. They deserve to be acknowledged along with their choice for congress.

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"Did it work? Anyone? Anyone? No, it did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s-oGumvPz0&feature=related

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Say, whaddaya doin' slinging factual information around? There's no room for that kind of stuff in Bachmanistan.

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It's a line from "Ferris Bueller," folks. "Something d-o-o economics" indeed!

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Another item to add to the Bachmann watch at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee: Bachmann vs. the truth.

http://www.dccc.org/page/content/bachmannwatch

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Journalist, historians, and liberal arts majors who never mastered reading graphs believe it but few economists. Milton Friedman, Anna Schwartz, and Ben Bernanke are among the doubters. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/stephanieflanders/2009/02/protectionism_wasnt_the_proble.html

Cambridge University economist Ha-Joon Chang addresses Smoot-Hawley and protection in an article at http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10628

He says of the notion that Smoot-Hawley was a major cause of the Great Depression:

“This is a misreading of history. The depression-era shift to protectionism was much less dramatic than is often claimed. The conventional story says that the world trading system collapsed because the US introduced the Smoot-Hawley tariffs in 1930. But this was not a radical shift in policy. America had been the most protectionist country in the world for the previous century, while Smoot-Hawley only raised average industrial tariffs from about 37 per cent to about 48 per cent, well within the historical range of US tariffs until then. Tariffs in other countries did rise after 1930, but only moderately, and economic historians have shown that trade shrinkage after the depression had more to do with shrinking demand and the drying-up of trade credits.”

Smoot-Hawley did exactly what it was designed to do, protect American jobs.

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Bachmann is not so dumb. An obscure congressperson has made herself into a household name and has established credentials that will allow her to suck on the wingnut-welfare teat for life.

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Please remember that Timothy McVeigh, Adolf Hitler and Spiro T. Agnew were "household names".

In and of itself, being a "household name" does not always accrue benefits to the owner.

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I think you are giving her wayyy too much credit on the "not so dumb".

Right now there is a grassroots movement afloat putting money into a trust fund to defeat her. She isn't doing herself any good if she is ingratiating herself into a party that will probably cease to exist in 2010.

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The thing about Bachmann that I can't understand is "where in the hell is her staff?". Don't any of them know how to use Wikipedia? Shouldn't they be doing some fact checking for her? Isn't that what they get paid to do?

I'm starting to worry that her brand of "stupid" and/or "crazy" might just be contagious. Maybe her whole staff has caught it.

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As it turns out is may in fact be a pandemic.

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What smart person would work for her?

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That's true. I really don't know how staffers get those jobs.

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It's official MN has just leaped frog over FL as the home of crazy town.

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maybe she was referencing Sen. Giva Hoot and Sen. Stuart Smalley; although, i don't think they cosponsored a bill.

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Michelle's Freudian slip showing?

Perhaps she was thinking of Senator Stuart Smalley????

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Shouldn't Michele 'Karl' Bachmann just dump her political aspirations and go straight to hosting her on show on FOX. Seems like it would save time.

Although we'd still be subjected to her lunacy thanks to many blogs treating everything she says as valid and worth repeating... just a thought.

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Why are we wasting web space and energy on a nickle whore? Yes, Bachmann is entertaining in a pole dance kind of way. However, we have serious problems in this country and the last thing any of us need to be doing is wasting time on a two bit whore. Granted, she has become the mouthpiece of a fringe party that celebrates slavery & the Confederacy. The failure of the RNC to take her to the local vet and have her put down is their failure. Good for them. But, let us get on to the business of sane adults. Eric, leave this whore alone and address serious issues/people.

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Because we need to laugh. Laughter is good.

So it's not a total waste of time.

And it's not like she's developmentally disabled.

Right? Seriously; she's not developmentally disabled, is she?

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And, more seriously, Bachmann is the very embodiment of what has gone wrong with the Republican Party, which is a cause for serious concern. If they somehow get back into power in their current state of frenzied totalitarian denial of the validity of objective reality, the whole world is screwed. If they just fade way, we'll have to go through a traumatic fissioning of the Democrats.

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I think you have demeaned five dollar whores everywhere.

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Are we sure she’s a real brunette?
There’s dumb, and then there’s truly
Bachman DUMB Overdrive!!

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This would be funny if it were not so appalling. How many of her constituents know how completely muddled this comment is? Smoot-Hawley (1930), FDR (1932).

As far as regulatory burden goes, which burden is she describing? The rules of the FDA and USDA which are so poorly enforced that only 1% of imported food is inspected for safety before it hits the supermarket shelves? Maybe she is talking about all the rules the banks had to prevent them from speculating with people's money???

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Wait... there was a tariff on midget owls?

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Everyone criticizing her has it mostly wrong.

Eric Kleefeld did get one thing right: she's from another planet.

And on that planet, Hoobert Heever was President.

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Boggles, You may be on to something, Then again she might just be trolling Faux News for a running mate. Think of the possibilities, Bachmann/O'Reilly, Hannity/Bachmann, or my personal favorite Bachmann/Beck.
Buy your popcorn futures Now!
God, I Love this woman!

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That's Bichele Machmann, for you!

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A little Bachman spoof for your day...

Swine flu alert! Virus traced to DVDs of "Babe"!

http://www.satiricalalexandria.com/

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LMAO

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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. This woman is an idiot pure and simple. Hoot-Smalley, indeed! If this were a Sat Night Live skit, no one would believe it,

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It's that kooky look in her eyes.

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With all due respect from now on put Michele Bachmann(R-Mars)

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Dumb Bee-otch!

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Bachmann/Palin Overdrive '12!

We can see Stuart "Hoot" Smalley from our house!

Bringing levity back to politics, one inadvertent remark at a time...

Ya, ya betcha!

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I wonder if that will go into the Congressional Record verbatim, or if someone will try clean it up first. (I sort of suspect it is beyond the help of even extensive post hoc editing except perhaps to excise it entirely!)

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Wow.

Usually the epithet of stupidity implies the the person could be better informed with more effort. The criticism refers more to a personality flaw, an intellectual laziness, rather than a biological flaw.

However, in Bachmann's case...

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Homeschooled.Definitely.

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What an idiot. Roosevelt saved this country. He wasn't even in office until 1933! Four years after the Great Depression started, and that Smoot-Hawley Act was created and passed by a Republican House and Senate, and signed by Republican President Hoover! What a bunch of friggin' lies. Basically every single word that came out of her mouth wasn't even true, from the recession Coolidge "fixed" (he wasn't in office either then, it was Harding!) to the whole thing with the Smoot-Hawley Act. Jeez.

These people are either stupid, lying, smoking something, or all of the above.

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Bachman beams herself in from her universe, to comment on our universe. How quaint.

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You know, this kind of ignorant statement from politicians really amazes me, as they have to know that every phone is a camera of some sort. And, as a Republican, I find this historical ignorance from a party member truly annoying.

But she was probably just trying to compete with other prominent politicians. Who does she think she is, Joe Biden?

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Not to be picky, but I think the headline was supposed to read "Hysterian Michele Bachmann".

I'm just sayin'.

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I wonder if maybe her and hannity and maybe palon are all related somehow. or maybe because regan threw all the mentally ill out in the streets the multiplied and maybe michigan got more than their fair share and some migrated to alaska cause they couldn't read the signs and one of them bred a bird that dropped hannity but then again how do you explain people like oreilly,,, but then he could be the uncle that got away but none of them have sued him for sexual harrasment but why do they hide and protect rove,, he had to realize that all this would come out because one thing about all politicians is when they get their nuts squeezed they sing louder than a opera star on steroids!

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Looks like everyone has this inner indulgence nailed but try this: watch her with no sound

It is difficult to tell if she is plugged in to something......like an......electric outlet or remote ....
Just try once. Report back.Or not

We have been discussing the iq bar for gopthingys.... but with the combined total of those mentioned above (including the pipe man).... it's reeeeeeeelly hard to devide by 3 and come up with an average in double digits. Whoops! sorry that was not devided by 3.....
If they are electric does that make them electricable?Or if they are remote does that make them remotely meaningful?
Sorry again. When you mix these two (or 2.5) up it gets to me bad.
Next?

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I found ANOTHER inaccuracy in Bachmann's crazy talk:

She said that Coolidge dealt with a recession in the early 1920s.... Well... Warren G Harding was President in the early 20s, and there were no visible signs of recession by the time Coolidge took office.

So, Bachmann has gotten EVERY single piece of "information" completely wrong. Why am I not surprised?

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This website http://www.swine-flu-tracker.com/ shows you in real time how quickly swine flu is spreading.

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Calling Michele Bachmann "stupid" is an insult to stupid people.

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Michele Bachmann makes Sarah Palin almost sound like a genius. I did not think that the level of discourse could go any lower . . . but it has with Bachmann. The game is to lie, smear, distort, and win at any cost and the facts be dammed.

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I guess this is the part where we remind her that the excesses in deregulation of financial markets after which we "saw the roaring twenties" are what caused the margin trading that caused the depression, and the lack of "tax barriers" didn't mean dick for the little guy making $5 a month while it meant a whole lot for the robber barons.

Keep it up, lady. We'll be in charge for the next 40 years, which will surely be mangled in the future by some breeder-nutcase descendant of yours.

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