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House Member: The Pentagon Says This Is A Budget Cut

Are senior officials at the Pentagon construing Defense Secretary Robert Gates' budget as a proposed defense spending cut?

Earlier today, I noted that the ranking member on that committee, John McHugh, had told Reuters that the Gates proposal would amount to an $8 billion slash in spending. But the numbers tell a different story: Not counting supplementals, Congress last year appropriated $513 billion to the Pentagon. This year, Gates is asking for $534 billion. If he gets everything he asks for, that's an increase of $21 billion, and Congress could always increase the total beyond that.

I asked McHugh's staff where the notion of an overall spending cut came from, and, when pressed, they had a hard time standing by the idea of a decrease in total dollars.

"In terms of total dollars, you're right," said an aide. "But there will be $8 billion in funding cuts for some programs." Gates was pretty clear, though, that many programs would indeed be cut, while others would be expanded.

McHugh's staff did say that the $8 billion figure originated at the Pentagon. According to a committee spokesperson, it "came from conversation our staff on the Armed Services Committee had with DOD officials. They asked them 'what's the delta going to be?' And they said $8 billion."

I have a call in to the Pentagon to see who briefed the committee, and whether their interpretation is the same as the committee's, and will report back when I learn more. Until then McHugh's grounds for claiming Gates is proposing an $8 billion budget cut remain unclear.

Gates himself addressed this criticism in a conference call with reporters earlier today. "Some of these things we have put in the base budget we elected to put into the base budget to send a signal to the troops that these things were going to be a permanent part of the budget, that we weren't going to be dependent on a supplemental," Gates said. "[W]hat you chose to put into the supplemental and so on, is probably how Mr. McHugh gets to his numbers."


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"In terms of total dollars, you're right," said an aide.

So when they're talking about an $8B spending cut, they're not talking about dollars? What currency are they talking about? Maybe Michelle Bachmann should investigate this.

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Cutting the defense budget would be a criticism?

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Shouldn't the military be embarrassed about being such whiners?

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Accuracy in defense of spending is no virtue. Innumeracy in defense of, um, defense is no vice.

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I'm confused by the "not including supplementals" language. Didn't the Bush administration leave the Iraq war off the books, calling the whole thing supplemental expenses? Do we really have an apples to apples comparison here? Actually, I don't know one way or the other.

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I think the wars are not included in Gates figure, but are included in the overall budget that congress passed as "continuing oversees contingency operations".

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What happened to shared sacrifice in order to reduce our unsustainable budget deficit Republicans?

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Oh, that's easy! The defense budget isn't deficit spending. It's a stimulus package to keep people employed. Now, the actual stimulus package, THAT was deficit spending.

See, that's what's about to come out of GOP mouths, any second now. I just didn't want you to have to wait for the answer. You can thank me later. ;-)

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So, the "reasoning" is that because some programs face cuts, OMGOMGWTFBBQ HORIBEL DEFENS SLASHING BUDGIT!!1, even though overall they are getting more money.

How…predictable.

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Well, people in Watertown, New York, where McHugh's district is, aren't exactly the sharpest crayons in the box. They'll believe anything their Republican representative says without questioning. All they really care about is making the 10th Mountain Division bigger so they can keep retail on Arsenal Street open and the rents high. That's probably the only reason the 23rd District is still red.

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This district also covers Plattsburgh which has a SUNY with many liberal people connected to it. There are also some decent democrats at the local level. Unfortunately, the Democratic party has not fielded a decent candidate, or one that knows how to play to the majority there. If democrats can get elected in Montana, Kansas, Virginia, they can certainly get elected there. It will just take some organizing. On a positive note---the democrats finally got a booth at last year's county fair--something the republicans always have.

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