New York Case Law Says Gillibrand's Ballot Is Valid -- Even If GOP Claim Is True
Here's a fun footnote to the Tedisco campaign's challenge of Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand's absentee ballot in the special election for her old House seat. It turns out that even if the GOP's reason for objecting to the ballot is true, the governing case law in New York says the ballot still should be counted.
The issue here is that New York requires absentee voters to have a good reason to vote this way rather than on Election Day -- in this case, Gillibrand planned to be outside of her home in Columbia County, voting at the Senate in Washington. But the GOP claims she was in the district anyway, seemingly rendering her excuse for a ballot null -- that she should have gone to the polls to cast her vote there, they say.
Gillibrand spokesman Matt Canter says she was not in the district at all on Election Day, but only arrived that night after the polls closed. This can get a bit confusing, so pay close attention: Gillibrand started the day in Albany (outside the district), went down to Washington to cast votes as she'd intended (and it turned out she missed the votes, arriving after they were held), then travelled to the district, arriving after the polls had closed to attend Murphy's Election Night party.
But what if she really was in the district? It turns out she's still covered, provided that she'd honestly expected to be out of her county, and things just worked out differently.
State Board of Elections spokesman John Conklin explained to me how it works. "Well, the lower courts have ruled that if you cast an absentee ballot based on your expectation of being out of the county, and you're subsequently in the county, you can let the absentee ballot stand," said Conklin. "The intention is good. Or you can vote on the machine, and part of the absentee re-canvass process is that when the envelope comes back they check to see whether the person did vote on a machine on Election Day."
So even assuming that Gillibrand was in the county while the polls were open, why would the Tedisco campaign still challenge the ballot, if case law says her original intention of being out of the county was good enough?
"The person advancing that argument may be hoping the highest court in the state may change what's been ruled in the lower court," said Conklin. "That's not been litigated by the highest court in New York State."
When asked for further comment, Canter told me: "I would echo the Senator's comments that it's disturbing, how the Republicans are using these stalling tactics to disenfranchise legal Democratic voters."


















Here's wishing Tedisco a BIG backlash on all the absentee ballots he's objecting to!!
April 15, 2009 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every district in the country must work the same way, otherwise chaos would ensue. You'd have people sending in absentee ballots, then suddenly finding themselves in the district the day of the vote and going to the polling place to be sure their vote counted. But the rolls would show an absentee ballot -- what would they do then?
April 15, 2009 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The absentee ballot wouldn't count. Just like it said above.
April 16, 2009 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Really, WTF difference does it make if Sen. Gillibrand was in her district, in Washington, or on the Moon come Election Day? As long as she, like every other citizen-voter in NY-20 (or the whole country, for that matter) is qualified and registered to vote, and does cast ONE valid ballot, why should being "absentee" or "cast in person" have any bearing on its validity?
Oh, right, Ms. Gillibrand is a Democrat! Silly me, I guess that makes all the difference...
April 15, 2009 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goopers hate Democracy.
That is all.
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April 16, 2009 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Under New York law the burden would be on the Republican to demonstrate that at the time she cast her ballot Senator Gillibrand didn't have a reasonable expectation that she would be out of the district (or in the case of someone who is ill- otherwise unable to travel to the polls) on election day. I wish the GOP good luck with that argument. The GOP really needs to hire experienced lawyers who know the law instead of Federalist Society voter suppression goons.
April 16, 2009 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mucking around with bogus challenges is just a PR game like Coleman played. He tried to make it look like he had a lead, just to establish his legitimacy as the winner. That's all Tedisco is doing. Franken chose to also make challenges to hold down Coleman's lead, and I can't say it wasn't a good idea, though I wonder what would have happened had Franken let Coleman explain why he was making all the challenges while Franken pointed out that the lead was smaller than the challenges.
April 16, 2009 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amazing! Who at the GOP makes decisions about which fights to pick? These dopes couldn't look sillier if they were really trying.
April 16, 2009 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink