TPMDC Saturday Roundup
Obama: Fiscal Discipline Needed
In this weekend's Presidential YouTube address, President Obama discussed his goal of making government more efficient and controlling spending, such as the re-introduction of PAYGO principles:
"We cannot sustain deficits that mortgage our children's future, nor tolerate wasteful inefficiency," said Obama. "Government has a responsibility to spend the peoples' money wisely, and to serve the people effectively."
GOP Address: Dems Have Put Us Behind France
In this weekend's RNC YouTube message, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) warned that the Democrats have put behind the French on issues like fiscal discipline and energy -- so much so that the United States would be ineligible to join the European Union:
"Now of course we don't want to be in the European Union," said Alexander. "We're the United States of America. But French deficits are lower than ours, and their president has been running around sounding like a Republican -- lecturing our president about spending so much."
No Obama Or Biden Public Events Today
Neither President Obama nor Vice President Biden have any public events scheduled for today.
Hillary Clinton: U.S. Will Not Abandon Iraq
Hillary Clinton made a surprise visit to Iraq today, saying that the United States will not abandon the country and that the drawdown of U.S. forces will be done in a "responsible and careful way." She told a town hall meeting at the U.S. Embassy: "Let me assure you and repeat what President Obama said, we are committed to Iraq, we want to see a stable, sovereign, self-reliant Iraq."
Goss Blasts Release Of Memos: "Americans Have To Decide Now"
Former CIA Director Porter Goss, who is also a former GOP Congressman, has a new op-ed piece in the Washington Post today, lambasting the Obama White House for releasing the torture memos. "I am speaking out now because I feel our government has crossed the red line between properly protecting our national security and trying to gain partisan political advantage," Goss writes. "We can't have a secret intelligence service if we keep giving away all the secrets. Americans have to decide now."
Obama To Meet With Progressive Caucus
Roll Call reports that President Obama is set to finally meet with the 77-member Congressional Progressive Caucus, the single largest internal faction of the House Democrats. Obama had previously met with the New Democrats and the Blue Dogs, as well as the Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus, leading Progressive Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) to warn that "we are good soldiers but we're not just go-along-to-get-along people."
Kerry Seeks To Invest In Iraq Veterans Documentary
John Kerry is seeking to use $300,000 in campaign funds to invest in a documentary film about Iraq War veterans, called "Keeping the Faith." "As this opportunity emerged, his first step was straight to the ethics committee to see if his participation would violate any regulations," said Kerry spokeswoman Whitney Smith. "The health and well being of our veterans is a top priority for Senator Kerry, but he plans to wait for a response from ethics before taking on any part of this project."


















TPM reader willia451 commented yesterday:
Really good point.
The national GOOPers insisted on running off-putting party-of-no ads in this race, even over Tedisco's objections. They refused his requests to take the ads down, and that may have cost them the election.
Now maybe this was all political theater and Tedisco actually welcomed those ads while being able to distance himself from them. Or maybe not.
There are a couple of interesting angles here. One is Steele vs. Tedisco. The other, broader and more important, is whether the NRC and NRCC have learned to not dismiss local candidates' advice about what kind of ads are helpful or hurtful in their districts.
Hey, Eric! It might be worthwhile trying to get a reaction from the various naitonal RepubliFringe committees about whether they plan any shift in that direction.
April 25, 2009 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Both the NRCC and DCCC seem to have a problem producing effective ads for candidates outside DC. I've seen more than a few on both sides backfire locally.
April 25, 2009 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In this weekend's Presidential YouTube address, President Obama discussed his goal of making government more efficient and controlling spending, ....
Hillary Clinton made a surprise visit to Iraq today, saying that the United States will not abandon the country and that the drawdown of U.S. forces will be done in a "responsible and careful way." She told a town hall meeting at the U.S. Embassy: "Let me assure you and repeat what President Obama said, we are committed to Iraq, we want to see a stable, sovereign, self-reliant Iraq."...."
I'm beginning to have more appreciation for LBJ. At least he promised a Great Society and a War on Poverty. With these two we are promised fiscal austerity at home but war is still the free lunch.
April 25, 2009 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You admire the war in Vietnam? That's, um, interesting...
April 25, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. But she's willing to pretend she does if that gives her an opening to bash Obama.
Two weeks ago, she posted how Obama was full of shit because he was promising to implement all these costly initiatives without raising taxes. She accused him of offering everyone a free lunch. Now she claims he's proposing fiscal austerity at home. Hello!
Bluebell would have more credibility if she could at least remember why she's angry with the president!
April 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
You admire the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? War is War. If we're increasing the defense budget and balancing the budget, you do the math.
April 25, 2009 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh ... they already did over at CNBC. Why do you think all the rich TV guys are crying about socialism?
Remember: 1% of $1,000,000 > 5% of $20,000 (by an order of 10). Raising taxes on the rich by just a little yields quite a lot.
April 25, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I've looked at the budget. Despite what you may have heard, it's not a balanced budget. Again, it's quite ambitious. Still, that doesn't preclude that there are many areas in which our use of resources is far from efficient. Your blathering is incoherent and is based on nothing remotely resembling reality. Your comments read like something I'd encounter at Politico, just bellicose yammering based on nothing more than the author's misconceptions and gross simplifications.
And certainly, if LBJ were president right now, there's little doubt that you would still embrace the role of the pathological malcontent with as much eagerness as you do with BHO, so when you idolize someone like LBJ as part of your daily dollop of sneering, it comes off as being especially disingenuous.
April 25, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
>>And certainly, if LBJ were president right now, there's little doubt that you would still embrace the role of the pathological malcontent >>
You've nailed it! The only politician about which people like Bluebell have anything remotely positive to say are the dead ones and those who don't/can't get elected!
Bluebell has NEVER mentioned any of the campaign promises Obama has kept. She harps on things he has not done, amps up the negatives and trashes him relentlessly. Of course, if he had lost, she would be championing him as the only decent politician on earth.
The president is not perfect; he's made mistakes and I've been disappointed in some things from the administration. But when Bluebell ONLY focuses on what he's done wrong, I know she's full of shit.
The pathological malcontents on the left are no different from Hannity and Limbaugh--their objective is to find SOMETHING wrong with EVERYTHING Obama does. And they have about as much credibility as the "party of no." Total losers.
April 25, 2009 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, since "War is War," I suppose you think the Iraq War is the moral equivalent of the Civil War. In which case, Barack Obama is Abraham Lincoln! Yay for dumb simplifications asserted only to make asinine comments!
April 25, 2009 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fiscal austerity at home = passing the largest budget in history replete with spending on healthcare, education, energy, infrastructure, housing.
Only someone desperate to be angry at the president could reach that conclusion. Only the perpetually pissed-off Bluebell. LOL!
April 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey man, what Obama passes doesn't actually matter so much as what he calls it. It's irrelevant whether his spending programs have already dwarfed LBJ's, what matters is that he doesn't refer to them with utopian and militaristic buzzwords. Here are my ideas for how Obama can be a better president:
The stimulus bill will, from now on, be called "The Golden City Where Poor People Get Unicorns."
The budget will henceforth be referred to as "The Tactical Bombing Campaign Against Social Inequality."
April 25, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting, I would have referred to it as: Strategic Program to Get Freeloading Rich Assholes to Carry Their Own Weight. (SPGFRACTOW - in gov. speak)
It's all in the branding I suppose.
April 25, 2009 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, Obama has already spent quite a bit more than LBJ and his domestic proposals are, by the numbers, more ambitious.
Of course, as we all know, your MO is simply to complain, not to express constructive opinions that are in line with the facts.
April 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about the rest of you, buy I think the country needs about a half-century without anyone from Texas having an important leadership position.
(Not advocating their secession -- just they need to act like Iowa or a normal state for a few decades.)
April 27, 2009 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOP: Release of ‘Torture Memos’ Poses Threat to Tortured Logic
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=6995
April 25, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spam.
April 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute! First the GOP were trying to scare people buy saying we are becoming like France, now they are saying we are not even as good as France.
When did this fear and loathing of Europe begin?
April 25, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Viva, the fear and loathing of Europe -- American Fries and all -- began when Europe refused to sign on to the insane plan to invade Iraq. After all, yer either fer us or agin us, quoth the Rethuglicans.
April 26, 2009 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, we really are in upside down bizarro-land territory when the Republican spokesperson is praising the French "surrender monkeys." Isn't this the same party that was making fun of John Kerry because he "looked French" and spoke the language.
So the Republicans think the way to score points with the American public is to point out that the French President disagrees with the American President? Damn, if only we had thought of that during the Iraq war, maybe we could have convinced the people!
Does this mean progressives will have to start eating Freedom Fries and boycotting Brie and Bordeaux to protest the "anti-American" Sarkozy?
April 25, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahem. In the GOP dining room, they are now called "Frugal Fries."
April 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only when a Dem is in office.
April 25, 2009 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Porter Goss is just a John Bolton wannabe. BTW, Porter, nice job hiring Dusty Foggo. How'd that work out?
In related news, torture-memo author and now federal appeals-court judge Jay Bybee is the author of a Ninth-Circuit Court ruling issued last Wednesday. In the ruling in the case of USA v. Park Place Associates, the appeals court overturned a $94M civil judgement against the U.S.
The excuse was sovereign immunity. (Sound about right?) Here's Bybee's opening paragraph:
It's kinda startling to see Bybee citing Tolstoy. Kafka, though, not so much. I mean, Kafka has to be on the required-reading list for Torture-Memo Authoring 101.
April 25, 2009 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Somebody ought to tell Alexander that Sarkozy is the French equivalent of a Republican.
April 25, 2009 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awww ... you beat me to the obvious comment.
Isn't FRANCE technically ineligible to be in the EU at the moment also?
It's like they know only stupid people are listening to them anymore and are messaging accordingly.
April 25, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
*Commented on the youTube video linking back to your comment because I think you said it well.* I don't know if it'll get published, but someone will read it.
April 25, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't being French and a repuglican an oxymoron?
April 26, 2009 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank goodness we have Porter Goss speaking out against the politicization on the intelligence community. And we also have Dick Cheney fighting for transparency in government and asking for the declassification of torture documents. And we have Karl Rove denouncing the partisanship and vindictiveness of the Obama administration. What amazes me the most is that I've managed to type this all out with clenched fists and intense rage permeating my body.
April 25, 2009 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
wait. did goss just suggest that the government has to be able to keep our illegal activity secret, or else the american people (among others) will know that the government is breaking the law? does he realize how asinine that is?
the attorney-client privilege is one of the most (if not THE most) sacred "secrecies" in jurisprudence. but there is something called the "crime-fraud exception," meaning that communications made in furtherance of a crime are not privileged. it's sort of an obvious exception from a public policy perspective. these memos are not entitled to that sacred confidentiality, because they were drafted to facilitate a crime. period.
okay, maybe it's not the "sanctity" of the secrecy, i.e., maybe the concern is more "practical" than some general, theoretical "sanctity of secrecy." maybe it's that we don't want the bad guys to know what we are and aren't allowed to do, because that will allow them to somehow anticipate our interrogation procedures and somehow more effectively withstand them. well, i guess we should start by getting out of this whole geneva conventions thingamabob, 'cause that is (or used to be) pretty clear vis-a-vis what a captor could and couldn't do legally. i mean, everybody from osama bin laden to lindsey lohan has access to the text of the conventions and could read the black and white of what's allowed. so burn those things post haste.
if this is the problem (that is, that interrogation is ineffective where the captor understands what the captor may and may not do under the law), i guess goss and his ilk would also suggest keeping the constitution and its jurisprudence secret from the american public, because we don't want potential domestic defendants to know what a cop can and can't do (in effect, then, taking the leash off the cops, as well)???? wow, that's not too ... despotic.
seriously, when asshats like goss spout this garbage, their bottom line is really this: the united states doesn't work. the constitution doesn't work. the founding fathers were wrong. the "experiment" failed. will somebody remind me again which party it is that is made up of america-haters?
what a bunch of tools.
i swear, the balls that these republicans/criminals have to make the arguments they're making is unbelievable. another one i like -- The Cheney Defense -- is: "hey, it might be a crime, but it worked. thus, it's not a crime." if it weren't so horrifying, it would be hilarious.
um, DICK, the issue/problem/question isn't whether it works or not; the problem is that it's ILLEGAL, period; and you covered that with your first premise (i.e, "maybe it's a crime, but ..."). killing your wife is a very effective means of halting her adulterous behavior, it's still murder, and you still go to prison. if you're horny, kidnapping and raping a woman is a pretty effective way to satiate your sexual urge, but it's still kidnapping and rape, and you're still going to prison. get it, dick? the end doesn't justify the means. i thought that was a pretty simple concept that most of us learned as adolescents, and perfected as teens or 20-somethings.
they're either so stupid, or so morally corrupt, that they don't even realize how stupid and evil they sound.
yuck.
April 25, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish you had been with me earlier today just after a meeting with Houston Mayor Bill White, in town to lay the groundwork for his bid for the U. S. Senate when Kay Bailey Hutchison resigns next year to run for Governor of Texas.
I got into a "discussion" with a couple of lawyers (I'm not one) about the "rule of law" and why the criminals in the Bush-Cheney cabal should be prosecuted for their crimes.
"Oh, no," the one of the attorneys complained. "That will backfire against President Obama who has far too much on his plate right now to be distracted by persecutions [sic] like that. It would be better just to have some sort of tribunal -- a 'truth commission' -- where the wrong-doers would be brought before it, admit their misdeeds and sent packing."
"That would be for the good of the country," said the other.
"If we persecute (his word) those guys, pundits like Shawn Hannity and the other right wing talking heads would scream to high heaven," the first lawyer said.
I held out for the proposition that restoring the the rule of law would be best for the country. I also pointed out that only the innocent are persecuted while the guilty are prosecuted.
Wish I could find the quote, but someone pointed out recently that the rule of law is the floor, not the ceiling, of our scheme of government.
April 25, 2009 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Mr. Goss,
I regret to inform you that Americans already decided. Last November. Please don't hesitate to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
P.S. Don't go too far, we may need you for an upcoming investigation.
April 25, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You beat me to it. The people decided, and Goss & Co. lost.
Yet another Bush criminal terrified of going to jail. The junta just won't go quietly.
April 25, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not know where to start with Alwxander's comments: first of all, the US does not qualify for the EU, we are not, last time I looked, a European country. Secondly, "fiscal austerity?" After what the GOP did under Bush? Thirdly? Why the comparison to France. France is d***ed if they do and d***ed if they don't. Is France to be reviled or revered?
April 25, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not eligible to join the EU? Yay! That means we can keep the dollar as our currency.
April 25, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!! Somebody should tell Michele "the loon" Bachmann that!
April 26, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
These GOP'ers are a confused bunch. During the campaign they praised the French and the use of Nuclear power there. Now they say Obama is putting America behind France in energy.
Seriously. Do these people have proof readers or do they just say yeah go with it every time and see if it sticks.
April 25, 2009 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah ...her name is Michelle Bachmann.
April 26, 2009 2:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
"We can't have a secret intelligence service if we keep giving away all the secrets. Americans have to decide now."
Okay, I'm deciding to right now to tell Porter Goss to suck it.
I'm pretty sure most of our quite firmly decided that we really want a country of laws and not a country of torturers and would-be dictators. That's why we voted those assholes out of power. Damn good decision making, America!
April 25, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's using the boogie-man defense as if there are people who still believe in their bull$hit.
April 26, 2009 2:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
France has one 20% of the population of USA. Add in that they have no military boondogles of world empire now or in the recent past (they gave up on that stuff a couple hundred years ago) and it is resonable to expect France would have smaller deficit than USA. And they have national health care, free education, good public transportation, ... How do they do it?! Their rich people pay TAXES! I know, I know. That's just a little too FRENCH!
Maybe we could have Tax'em Fries. That would go well when we're sipping our merlot.
April 26, 2009 5:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Get a clue, Goss. Americans decided in November.
April 26, 2009 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
note to lamar alexander:
most of the EU countries themselves (including france) are not currently in compliance with the EU's stability and growth pact. has something to do with the global economic crisis. perhaps you've heard of it...
the US began exceeding the 3% deficit to gdp ratio under bush, not obama.
since 1969 the US deficit has exceeded 3% of gdp in 16 out of 38 years - all but one of those years were under republican presidents (reagan being 'responsible' for 7 of those years). bush's deficit exceeded 3% of gdp in 3 of his 8 years, including - most importantly - last year.
the US also began exceeding the 60% debt to gdp ratio under bush, not obama.
debt to gdp exceeded 60% at the end of hw bush's term, clinton's first term, and BOTH of w bush's terms. while clinton and carter both presided over reductions to the debt to gdp ratio by the end of each of their terms, nixon was the last republican president to not preside over increases to the debt to gdp ratio by the end of his term.
please spare us this fantasy of republican fiscal conservatism.
April 26, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
hey Porter Goss you fucking asshole we croosed the red line when we tortured not when we exposed it.
April 26, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink