TPMDC Sunday Roundup
Summers: "It's A Long Road" For The Economy
Appearing on NBC's Meet The Press, Larry Summers said of the economic situation: "But it's a, it's a long, it's a long road and it's going to take time. It's going to take creating jobs again. That's why the recovery bill was so important. It's going to take supporting the financial system, because without a flow of credit you really can't even begin to get the economy going again. That's where our main focus is."
Obama's Day
President Obama spent the morning in Trinidad and Tobago, at the fifth Summit of the Americas. He attended an 8 a.m. ET multilateral meeting with SICA (Central American Integration System), a 9:10 a.m. ET Leaders Retreat, and held a news conference at 11:45 a.m. ET. He left Trinidad at 1 p.m. ET, and is scheduled to arrive back at the White House at 6:15 p.m. ET.
Obama Sees Positive Signs From Cuba And Venezuela
At his news conference today, President Obama said that he had seen positive signs for Cuba and Venezuela. "I do believe that the signals sent so far provide at least an opportunity for frank dialogue on a range of issues," said Obama, "including critical issues of democracy and human rights throughout the hemisphere."
GOP Senator Blasts Obama For "Laughing And Joking" With Chávez
Appearing on CNN's State of the Union, Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) blasted President Obama for "laughing and joking" with Hugo Chávez at the Summit of the Americas. "This is a person who is one of the most anti-American leaders in the entire world," said Ensign. "He is a brutal dictator and human rights violations are very, very prevalent in Venezuela. And you have to be careful."
Axelrod Worries About Potentially "Unhealthy" Tea Parties
Appearing on CBS' Face The Nation, David Axelrod expressed concern about the Tea Parties: "I think any time that you have severe economic conditions, there is always an element of disaffection that can mutate into something that's unhealthy." He then walked back a bit: "Well, we're -- this is a country where we value our liberties and our ability to express ourselves. And so far these are expressions."
NYT: Obama Takes Softer Stands
In a new Sunday piece, the New York Times says that President Obama has been taking softer stands compared to his campaign rhetoric. "In some of his earliest skirmishes, Mr. Obama eventually chose pragmatism over fisticuffs," the paper says. "Congressional Democrats effectively killed his proposal to slash farm subsidies by nearly $1 billion a year, and forced him to retreat partially on a plan to require private insurers to pick up more of veterans' health costs."
Napolitano: Report Did Not Say Veterans Are Extremists
Appearing on CNN's State of the Union, Homeland Security Sec. Janet Napolitano clarified the recent controversial department report on right-wing extremist groups. "The report is not saying veterans are extremists, far from it," said Napolitano. "What it is saying is returning veterans are targets of right wing extremist groups that are trying to recruit those to commit violent acts within the country. We want to do all we can to prevent that."
Boehner: Idea That Carbon Dioxide Is Harmful "Is Almost Comical"
Appearing on ABC's This Week, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) said the following when George Stephanopoulos asked what the GOP's position is on carbon emissions: "George, the idea that carbon dioxide is a carcinogen that is harmful to our environment is almost comical. Every time we exhale, we exhale carbon dioxide. Every cow in the world, you know, when they do what they do, you've got more carbon dioxide."




















RE: Norm Colman I got this little ditty in my inbox yesterday. Norm is a good bread winner for the Dems :-)
April 19, 2009 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ensign needs to learn what the word "dictator" means. I do not have a favorable opinion of Chavez, but to refer to Venezuela as a dictatorship indicates either embarrassing ignorance or a willful intent to deceive.
April 19, 2009 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either? How about both?
And while Ensign was channeling Drudge (with King aiding and abetting), it's also the case that perhaps the ambassadors might be reinstated.
If you saw the press conference, Obama pretty much smacked down the question from Dan Lothian about "THE HANDSHAKE!!@!!#!$!$!$#@!!!!!!"
The media seem intent on killing their own industry.
April 19, 2009 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ensign is showing his ignorance when he said ...
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that Venezuela just so happens to be in South America. That makes Chávez an American, just like Mexico and Canada are North Americans just like us. Pardon me for stating the obvious, but we don't own the word American. It's the name for the entire continent, north, central and south. He would have been more politically correct if he said Chávez was anti-US. It's those little details repuglicans have such a hard time grasping.
April 19, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you.
April 19, 2009 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nottaworry, mate! I was counseled many years ago by a Canadian on our misuse of the word American.
April 19, 2009 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, really the GOP and their minions need a little context on Chavez and Venezuela.
1) We've had imperial policies towards Venezuela since oil and other resources were discovered there. Anybody would be PO'ed.
2) The Bush admin covertly backed the attempted military coup against Chavez, who is democratically elected and very popular. We tried to set up another banana republic there, and failed.
3) We should actually be glad Bush was such an incompetent imperialist. It's much better to have a marginally PO'ed Chavez now, than a Venezuelan Ayatollah or Osama bin Laden a decade from now, in the midst global warming, with droughts and crop failures, and massive worldwide resentment towards the developed nations.
4) Last I checked, despite us running imperial policies in the region for a century, and staging many coups, including the one that almost bumped off Chavez, there's still no Latin American Al Qaeda flying planes into our buildings or bombing our ships.
I think we'd be smart to mend bridges now, instead of further destabilizing our backyard for more damn oil. Christ, all Chavez wants it to keep more oil profits at home for more social programs. He's hardly Hitler or Kim Jong-il.
April 20, 2009 12:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just read the whole interview. Boehner dances around and can't give a straight answer. He clearly knows his arguments are discredited; yet reluctantly continues making them out of political necessity.
People call Dems spineless? Boener is about as limp a political sock puppet as you'll ever see.
April 20, 2009 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
As for Boehner: we exhale carbon dioxide because it's waste.
April 19, 2009 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad we don't have a way to exhale HIM.
April 19, 2009 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Boehner is trying to make an issue with cow farts destroying the atmosphere, eh?, What's he gonna do? Introducing legislation to have all cattle fitted with air filters? Next thing you know, he'll be attacking beans.
April 19, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
And cow farts are methane, not CO2.
April 19, 2009 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Boehner exhales methane! hah
April 19, 2009 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it comical that the Republicans call Chavez a dictator, despite the fact he has broad popular support and won all of his elections by wide margins (and these results were signed off by international election monitors). And what human rights violations are "very, very prevalent" in Venezuela? I'm curious what evidence Ensign is referring to here. And let's not even get into the shocking hypocrisy of any US politician, especially conservatives, decrying Latin American dictatorships or human rights violations, when virtually our entire history with Latin America has involved overthrowing democratically elected leaders and installing murderous pro-American dictators in their places. Ensign can go to hell.
And Boner's comments are just as ignorant. Did the EPA ever call CO2 a carcinogen? No, of course not. Does a substance have to cause cancer to be regulated by the EPA? No, of course not. So the real question is here, is Boner really that stupid, or is he just doing what Republicans do best--lying?
It is really a tossup...liar or idiot, liar or idiot, liar or idiot? Both seem so plausible...
April 19, 2009 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real carcinogens are in the cigarettes that Boner loves to smoke so much.
April 19, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't there a military coup a few years back? And didn't the people riot and attack the military and coup leaders to release Chávez? From what I read in The Shock Doctrine, Chávez kicked out all the multi-national companies and the IMF. Those are the big bankrollers for the repuglicans. Sounds like Ensign is waging a propaganda war with twisted lies and facts to make the US public believe the corporatist point of view instead of reality.
April 19, 2009 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
No toss up for me. It's part of the right's history. Years ago, Barron's had an editorial decrying the EPA (or its equivalent) for a list of banned substances, one of which was DDT. The article accused the government of overzealotry and bolstered its argument by citing DDT's stats as a carcinogen, which were insignificant, with nary a mention of the wholesale damage to birds. I've never bothered reading Barron's since then because how would I be able to believe one word of it.
April 19, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, he is an idiot. Yes, he is lying. He's also clueless.
April 19, 2009 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
As someone mentioned Boehner is an expert on BS
April 19, 2009 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every cow in the world, you know, when they do what they do,
Poop or fart?
April 19, 2009 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breathe? B/c the other end produces methane.
Anyway, thanks TPM for this Morning Boehner update.
It's amazing that they deliberately try to stoke stupidity by playing on the misunderstanding of carcinogen and, apparently, Carbon Dioxide (which I didn't realize was confusing).
April 19, 2009 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chavez was democratically elected, but so are all the opposition mayors and governors which he is now unconstitionally undermining and replacing with appointed apparatchiks by means of presidential decree.
April 19, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to Emaneul on "This Week" this morning Obama has no plans to go after anybody, not even Bybee, Yoo, Gonzalez and the rest. He's on his same ol' "it's not about retribution, it's not about looking back in anger, it's about reflection".
He's not taken partial ownership of the Bush torture years. Congratulations, I hope it was worth it.
April 19, 2009 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Should read "He's NOW taken partial ownership..."
April 19, 2009 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, but what does,
"Congratulations, I hope it was worth it."
mean?
No offense, you just lost me. The point then is?
April 20, 2009 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think someone trained in constitutional law at Harvard could tell the difference between retribution and justice. Guess Harvard isn't any better at law than it is at finance.
April 19, 2009 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone ever claimed that carbon dioxide is a "carcinogen"?
April 19, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, Boehner is a know nothing on steroids.
April 19, 2009 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not so much a "know nothing" as a "no everything"!
April 19, 2009 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, they tried to prove it, but the mice kept suffocating.
April 20, 2009 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
(No mice were harmed in the creation of this comment.)
April 20, 2009 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
John Boehner is supposed to be an educated informed person. As leader of the Congressional Republicans his conflation of CO2, a global warming gas, with a carcinogenic source of pollution is so ludicrous and comical that it hurts. Is this what the GOP puts forward as their leadership? Total ignorance and misinformation. Have at it Comedy Central!
April 19, 2009 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who do you think the base will believe? That's what counts here. And we all know the base has a ring thru their noses so they can be easily lead to the political arenas to be inoculated, I mean, indoctrinated.
April 19, 2009 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never thought I'd say it but bring back Blitzer. Is John King too right wing for FOX or what?
April 19, 2009 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Mr. Obama eventually chose pragmatism over fisticuffs"
Well, duh.
April 19, 2009 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every cow in the world, you know, when they do what they do, you've got more carbon dioxide.
No, what cows emit is methane.
Methane is also a greenhouse gas, and is specifically named as covered by the EPA's findings this week-- it is actually a more harmful one than carbon dioxide, but it falls out of the atmosphere much quicker-- but it is not the same thing as carbon dioxide.
April 19, 2009 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I propose we place Boner, his GOP House-mates, a herd of cattle, and a fleet of running Chevy Suburbans in a hangar and seal it off. Then we can see how comical he thinks it is.
April 19, 2009 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carbon monoxide is another matter, too.
April 19, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm starting to get irritated here. Boehner is not "boner", it is "beaner". Let's get it right folks.
April 19, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boehner No Brainer
April 19, 2009 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good to know that we can move Boehner from the "global warming skeptic" column to the "global warming denier" column. Not that there's any real difference between the two groups, but at least the former pretend not to be hostile to the scientific enterprise.
April 19, 2009 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joke of the day by Larry Summers
""But it's a, it's a long, it's a long road and it's going to take time. "
Heall yeah, as long as you're standing in the way of fixing the financial system. You are the retardation factor preventing the country from moving forward faster. Go PPIP yourself!
April 19, 2009 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ranks with Ronnie's quote that trees cause more pollution than automobiles.
April 19, 2009 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
he was right, I bet you don't have allergy problems. Never heard about people having car allergies. And also, when you cut down the trees, process it for pulp and paper.... very cost intensive and lots of pollution. We'ld be better off without trees.
April 19, 2009 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It hurt my brain reading the conversation between STEPHANOPOULOS and BOEHNER, regarding the greenhouse effect/global warming/climate change (Boehner does a good job sticking to the climate change terminology). Boehner is acting like a child who doesn't want to eat the peas on his plate, unable to provide an answer to the simplest question. How about having a f*&king vision for your party. Coming up with a plan? Yea when it's too late.
April 19, 2009 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
In our dear friend John Bonehead's world, the fact that the world is covered in water means that drowning is comical.
April 19, 2009 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. John Ensign is not someone who should be talking about foreign affairs relating to the developing world, least of all, Latin America. For the record, Chavez has a better history of being democratic than George Bush does.
As for Bonehead, has anyone ever actually suggested that CO2 is a carcinogen? What a dork!! Why is this man ever elected?
April 19, 2009 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that interview Boehner also uses the line about how the release of the memos gives AQ a heads up on what techniques to resist.
Problem is: Obama has said we won't use those techniques! Never mind that the techniques were known about already, they are no longer in the toolkit of interrogators -- at all! At least officially speaking.
I wish George had asked Rahm about who would be prosectued, like the guy alleged to have murdered someone he'd been interrogating. Swanner, I think is the name.
April 19, 2009 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
In one short weekend ...........
The hostility of the ALBA countries toward the United States also seemed to lose steam, as became clear on Sunday with the words of President Zelaya after he and his Central American counterparts met with Obama.
“The entire summit has had an atmosphere of very fraternal dialogue and that pleases us Latin Americans. We are no longer having the strong clashes there were before. Obama’s behavior is totally different: more openness, more dialogue and more respect. There are good prospects (because) the United States changed with Obama,” he said.
April 19, 2009 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dialogue? Respect? The man is obviously a socialist fascist dictator, and carcinogenic to boot!!
It's truly frightening to contemplate the world view of an entire entrenched part of our political system that sees dialogue and respect as signs of weakness. The world is a dangerous place, but starting -- starting -- with dialogue and respect at least provide the possibility of it not becoming more dangerous. The Bush legacy of arrogance and bullying, in contrast, has done and will continue to do incalculable damage. Oyy!
April 19, 2009 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Organization of American States Secretary-General José Miguel Insulza expressed it very graphically when he said: “Those who thought that this was going to be a shouting match have come away disappointed. A new, very positive spirit has been noted.”
April 19, 2009 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was Chavez anti-"American" or anti-Bush? Seems hypocritical to call another country out on human rights issues at the same time you are justifying the use of torture.
I read the other day that Pelosi and other leaders in Congress signed off on the torture policies in 2002 and 2003. If that's true, could Obama be trying to protect the Democratic leaders in Congress who knew about the torture? At the very least, I think if this went to court the defendants would call these members of Congress to testify what they knew when and what they did about it.
April 19, 2009 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're on to something. Seriously.
April 20, 2009 2:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
i'm feelin' stroszek on that one
April 19, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Boner pulls a Boehner.
You never do a boner with your Hoehner, but maybe you do with your Boehner?
April 20, 2009 7:28 AM | Reply | Permalink