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Texas Democrat To Perry: Stand Down

Earlier today, I noted that, at the Austin tea party yesterday, Texas Governor Rick Perry suggested that his state might secede from the union under circumstances unclear.

I've put in a call to his office to see if we can't get a better explanation of the scenario he's contemplating. But in the meantime, Texas State Sen. Rodney Ellis (D-Houston) is saying, in no uncertain terms, that the governor crossed the line.

"There are some issues that simply should not be legitimated in any way, shape or form, and secession is one of them," said Ellis. "By not rejecting out of hand the possibility of secession, Governor Perry is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics."

I'll post the full statement below the fold. We're trying also to get responses from Texas Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn, but, perhaps not coincidentally, the phone lines for both offices are completely tied up.

Yesterday, Governor Perry left the door open when discussing secession:

"Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.

"My hope is that America, and Washington in particular, pays attention. We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that?"

"There are some issues that simply should not be legitimated in any way, shape or form, and secession is one of them," said Ellis. "By not rejecting out of hand the possibility of secession, Governor Perry is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics.

"It was only 12 years ago that Texas had a deadly stand-off with those urging secession. Governor Bush stood up to those fringe elements. I urge Governor Perry to ramp down the rhetoric and state unequivocally -- as Governor Bush did in the 1990s -- that secession is not only not an option, it isn't going to be part of the political discussion.

"In the last week, we've seen an extremely troubling escalation of rhetoric," said Ellis. "Talking about state's rights, the oppressive hand of the federal government and secession brings up some pretty bad memories in this state. It was not all that long ago that those were the exact words used by those who opposed desegregation and the civil rights movement. The top elected official in the second largest state with our history simply cannot be so loose with his comments. He's not a radio or cable TV talk show host.

"The timing and focus of this talk doesn't make much sense," said Ellis. "Since 2001, the Texas budget has increased by 62 percent. The budget we are now working on includes $65 billion from the federal government. We didn't hear about the oppressive hand of the federal government when we asked for hurricane and wildfire relief and, we didn't hear these complaints when we took money for transportation and education and health care. We didn't hear about it for eight years of exploding federal budget deficits, so why now?

"I understand that the governor has a difficult political race on his hands, but that is no excuse to whip up this type of frenzy among people who are already worried about keeping their job or a roof over their heads," said Ellis.


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Brian, have you contacted Kay Bailey Hutchison for a comment on the matter?

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Nevermind, I should read the whole post before opening my mouth.

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Hey, this is actually getting sort of good. If you'd asked me yesterday, I'd have bet the mainstream and politicos would just have ignored this. :-)

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I kind of agree. I don't know what it means though. I mean, if the Gov of New York had said something like this it would mean impeachment. Something like this from Texas normally brings a response: "That sounds bad, but he's from Texas." But if Texans themselves are outraged, then that's news.

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Will all you people please just SHUT UP?!? LET THE CONFEDERACY RE-SECEDE ALREADY!

Only this time, not one dime, not one drop of blood to stop them.

If Texas secedes, it would be a minor loss to the Union (nice state, good folks, but frankly, too many right-wingers running things to go on). However, Alabama would follow; Louisiana (and then, NOLA would secede from THEM!), South Carolina and a host of other brain-dead bastions of Dumbfuckistan which we could all live without.

Truth is, all the talk of the percentage of Federal tax dollars that go back to the trailer trash? Moot point. And besides, give each of the old Confederacy states a year, max, and without a domestic trading partner (I should hope Obama would have enough sense to let them fend for themselves totally), they'll be eating toothpaste.

Thing is, I'm as serious as a fucking heart attack, about this. It's the old "watch out for what you wish for" adage. Give these right-wingers exactly what they ask for, and when it all goes down the shitter, the good folks of these states will toss the trailer trash, and their enablers, right out the door. Out of sheer expediency.

Voila... no more Confederacy. No more Republicans. I can live with that.

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Um, you sound as crazy as Perry

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I agree with matyra. You have to remember that Perry doesn't speak for all Texans much like Bush didn't speak for all Americans (or all Texans when he was Governor). Most Texans are reasonable Americans and that's why I believe Perry will be voted out in the fall.

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If red states secede, they lose net positive Fed outlays (more tax revenue flows to red states than is taken in taxes generally), they probably lose all government contracts including defense contracts, their Congressional seats and electoral votes go away, they get to deal with immigration issues on their own.

Perry did not call for secession. The crowd took it there (was that call orchestrated?). But this is the problem, that people are suggestible and also will take words as an excuse for action beyond what was said.

Ellis has a good point, but Perry has a point too as long as it's not taken too far.

Of course both are playing to their crowds and probably to their sponsors.

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Perry's a politician. He made the crowd feel like he, too, was in favor of secession.

Crazy or no, I'm telling ya: give the extremists their wet dream. The time is long overdue for the SMART people of these states (and the perpetually-suppressed minorities!) to get politically active, and wrest these damned red states the hell away from the yay-hoos.

They're not going to do that, until they're in total crisis, and realize they need to get off their asses and organize. I vote for total crisis.

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Did you miss the 2008 elections? The level of political activity and involvement was historic. The crisis became evident in 2005 when the Bush Administration botched the response to Katrina, exposing incompetence and the people began to respond the very next year at the midterm elections. Then in 2007 the economic downturn started creeping up and the next year Obama was elected. The people are engaged and have been and will continue to be, no wingnut drama necessary.

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