The Latest From NY-20: Murphy Up By 56 Votes, Amid Ballot Challenges Galore
Here's some of the latest news from the still up in the air NY-20 special election:
• The latest numbers from the state show Democratic candidate Scott Murphy leading Republican Jim Tedisco by 56 votes, up from yesterday's margin of 25 votes, as more absentees start coming in from the pro-Murphy areas of Columbia County and Warren County.
• And speaking of those counties, they have been some of the prime areas where the Tedisco campaign has been keeping absentees ballots out of the count, by challenging the eligibility of voters who maintain multiple homes. A Murphy representative has also alleged that the Tedisco campaign is targeting voters for not just being registered Democrats, but on ethnicity: "Cohen, Pollack, Rosegarten, Winakor -- there's a pattern: they're Democrats and they're Jewish."
• Also, the Tedisco camp has now begun challenging ballots cast by students at local Skidmore College. The Tedisco camp has commented in the press that the goal here is to prevent fraud -- to make sure that only people who live in the district are voting for its representative.
• On top of that, we're also waiting on more absentees to come in from some of these counties, and none have come in at all yet from the Tedisco stronghold of Saratoga or the Murphy stronghold of Washington.
• Plus we have the military and overseas ballots, which haven't been counted yet, and for which the Tedisco camp is requesting more time for what was already an extended deadline for ballots to arrive in the mail. It has been pointed out that the letter is addressed to "Erik Holder."
The biggest thing we're really all waiting on here is for the judge presiding over the case, James V. Brands, to rule on these legal questions. Brands was set to hear arguments yesterday and possibly rule that day, but he was hospitalized and is expected to be back in court tomorrow. Depending on the degree to which he upholds or overrules challenges, Murphy could benefit by a potentially decisive amount.
So really, we're hardly done yet at all.




















All these efforts to disenfranchise voters but if he comes up short, Tedisco will become the champion of every vote must count.
April 14, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Murphy will win. His margins in the absentee vote is greater than his margin on election day.
April 14, 2009 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It depends on NY elections law.
Whoever winds up the original winner, can there be a recount? And if there can, what is the percentage that triggers the recount? And who pays for the recount? If one is not automatically triggered by margin of victory, does the state pay for the recount? If one IS auto triggered, does NY state pay for the recount?
Also, can the recount be challenged in court? And if so, are there statues which seat someone provisionally?
April 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The canvassing and recanvassing amount to a recount, in effect all the votes cast on election day have been recounted twice.
Whoever comes out on top of the count can be seated, there is no law in NY requiring all legal challenges to be exhausted first.
April 14, 2009 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That may be true, but currently, some county elections commissioners are caving to the demands of the lawyers from each of the national parties and not following NY state law in the process (not counting ballots they have the authority to go ahead with):
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=789212&category=SARATOGA
With the current special elections judge sick and in the hospital (maybe back tomorrow, maybe not) the inmates are running the asylum and the whole process seems out of control.
Messy to say the least.
Partial results. No results. Ballot challenges gallore. Some counties counting and reporting. Some not.
How will we ever really know for sure one way or the other?
April 14, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If we get this and we get Franken, it's two good, swift kicks to them when they're down. Just what they need, pardon me. Them and their fricking flowering-of-democracy-across-Mideast-starting-with-Iraq-stupidities, "we're ready" in New Orleans fiasco, political quizzes for civil service criminality, Bush v. Gore banana republic play, frittering away of Clinton surplus, country-first Palin disgrace, anti-Social-Security bambooblepalooza, intelligent-design fraud campaign, closet Muslim smear, permanent majority malarkey.
April 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nicely said! And the more kicks, the better!
April 14, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well put!!
April 14, 2009 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Tedisco's goon squad has now challenged Sen. Gillibrand's vote. A-mazing.
April 14, 2009 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Tedisco camp obviously believes, given the circumstances, they might come up short.
The strategy seems to be to challenge every ballot that could possibly be a Murphy vote. On any grounds they can (or no grounds). And delay a final count as long as possible.
This will give their lawyers time to try to come up with a post-election strategy, if possible, to challenge the results in court.
I know a previous poster stated NY state law allows seating prior to complete resolution of all legal challenges.
But who knows what kind of Rabbit the Republicans will pull out of their hat? Or try too.
If I were Murphy and the Democrats, however many lawyers I had on this, I'd double it. Today!
April 14, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
In normal people, simultaneously insisting on counting invalid ballots in Minnesota and not counting valid ballots in New York would cause enough cognitive dissonance to make one's head explode. But these are, after all, Republicans. They're used to such things.
April 14, 2009 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Cohen, Pollack, Rosegarten, Winakor -- there's a pattern: they're Democrats and they're Jewish."
In case anyone was wondering how Democrats get 70-something percent of the Jewish vote. Funny how you lose people's votes when you try to stop them from voting.
April 14, 2009 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
No counts from Saratoga County yet, but word comes out that 714 out of 1934 total absentee ballots have been challenged - that's 37%.
http://blogs.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/13538
So, even if Saratoga reports their counts we'll probably have to wait for the court to determine which challenged ballots get counted. GOP stands for "Grand Old Procrastination."
April 14, 2009 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink