This clearly wasn't a fair battle of wits: Frank's opponent entered the fray unarmed.

She didn't even say anything that Lou hadn't already said! She also rolled over when Barney called her out on that eight billion dollar nonsense.

Can we please put her on television more often?

dont you wish people would turn orange when they lied?

F-16 wins dogfight against Piper Cub.

I'm shocked. Who'd of thunk it?

Loud Obbs really is letting his white hood show more and more these days, isn't he? The leap from 'scary dirty Mexicans' to 'scary dirty black people' was inevitable, I suppose.

Acorn is "under investigation in states all across the country"?

Is it really?

I love Bachmann. She and Steele and Rush and Boner and Dick and Neuter may well help establish a sustained Democratic political dominance. On the outside chance that the Dems actually do something worthwhile, this would be good.

"Jesus, Dobbs is such a tool. Acorn was indicted for REGISTRATION fraud, not VOTER fraud. I wonder why Franks didn't bring that up - probably because he was bored listening to the tool and the maniac"

THANK YOU polaris1. The only thing "voter fraud"
and "Voter Registration Fraud" have in common is that both contain the words: Voter and Fraud!

Other than that, you are comparing apples to oranges in their detriment to society, with the 2 word saying being MUCH Worse than the 3 word saying!

Do you think the problem might be that there are too many words in voter registration fraud, and that Michelle has a problem of remembering Correctly any term or sentence of more than 2 words?

"routine" not "routing"

I get so angry when I watch ACORN arguments. They've won the framing debate. The correct frame is:

1) ACORN is trying to register people
2) they pay people to get the signatures on a per signature basis
3) each signature has to be verified - if not, it's thrown out
4) stupid employees try to cheat by getting bogus signatures - they do this for money, not for political reasons, and it always gets caught

Thus, the "fraud" is committed by the jerk standing outside of the market trying to get you to sign and it GET CAUGHT - no Mickey Mice actually get registered. You have stupid employees FAILING to commit fraud (for money) and they get caught and the fraud never gets consummated.

THE KEY POINT: The law says that ACORN has to submit every signature, even if it says Mickey Mouse. They HAVE to. The employee who submitted it can then be prosecuted, but ACORN is blameless. They can't guarantee than no employee tries to commit fraud and if the employee does try, they have to submit the fraudulent registration attempt and let it get thrown out when it can't be verified.

So freaking Lou Dobbs is trying and succeeding to frame it as if Obama is giving money to ACORN to aid them is successfully registering guys named Mickey Mouse. They never get registered and if they did, they'd get caught when they try to vote, but they'd never try to vote because they only signed the damned list to get paid more money!!!

AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! THE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, rather than being an issue of competence, I had assumed that Bachmann YouTubed it because she perceived herself as winning the argument against Frank in the same way that conservatives believe that Stephen Colbert really hates liberals and that Archie Bunker always won all of his arguments with "Meathead."

Dobbs is a weird guy. He's doing something important, namely being Andy Rooney with things that matter. But this is the choreographed op. It's done in 3/4 time, an in septamic pentameter or something. A hack with no experience needs some face time, and some producers have a list of hot buttons. They have a focus group, or a casting session, and they pick one of the haircuts to come be the braying fool.

And the fool brays. They express perfectly reasonable indignation about monies being squandered...
I'm sorry, I'm going to finish this in my own blog. In my own time.

But in closing here, I think you're just the teeny-tiniest generous with Barney. He won, but as the pro his role was easiest. Like Hulk Hogan against one of the bad guys. Wow- somebody should tell Mr. Frank he's been described as a Hulk Hogan type.

He did the obligatory exasperation riff, the one we were all waiting for during the Biden-Palin debacle. I'm glad he spelled out that RNC doctrine of contracting things out instead of doing it ourselves, and I'm glad he pointed out to the inexperienced and somewhat dim Mrs. Somebody from somewhere (I'm scrolling up to check details, but it's not about her.) that her cult snuck millions of dollars to the same organization she's complaining about. They do work.

The work they do at ACORN (ACRON is just an example, but in this minuet I'm describing she must somehow test the last election's hot button issues to see if she can get picked up as a soundbite. This one's looking at the Senate.) improves the way our Housing and Urban Development office works. The indictments I (think I ) have never been indicted, but I've seen the way that cluster F works and can't give something as flimsy as an indictment the weight it would need to change my mind about doing something I planned to do and then started.

I would argue, if it wouldn't get me off the point, that the voter registration work they do improves democracy by putting more humans into it. I don't think it makes any sense to worry about registrations anyway, since they are not votes in any real sense. And there I went. I'm gone.

My son is trying hard to figure out batting. His arm is pretty good when he relaxes, and he did get a base hit in each of his first two games. I think baseball will help us find a way to connect through the years. Have you ever played catch? Birds chirping. Nobody talking. Just whoosh, slap. Whoosh, slap.

Good night,

I sick of seeing Bachman's face on the liberal blogs along with Steele. Everyday we are met with their toothy smarmy faces. Stop it already.

Highlights:

2:28 Bachmann's face is a mixture of being completely stumped and thinking "Oh Jesus, he actually brought notes... I'm boned"

6:25 Has Lou Dobbs ever made the point that "the government can handle that better than a private agency" to a republican???? I don't think so.

I used to work as a canvasser for a community group (not ACORN, but similar) and briefly did some verification work. It doesn't surprise me in the least that some of their employees cheat, and the fact that offenders are prosecuted proves, if anything, that ACORN has integrity.

Thank God for Acorn, You go Frank Everyone should be voting regardless.

If Bachmann TurnHer OverDry
is really making the point that Federal funds should not go to indicted folks.....wouldn't that disqualify almost all federal contractors....and especially the Bailout Kings? And just about every pig sucking at Federal Troughs?

Wouldn't every Corporate Carnivore have a bunch of indictments that would turn off the Federal Tap? Screwing up all of her Corporate Party friends?

Is it really true, that after scanning down all these comments....Nobody else has made this argument here on this post, or during the Bachmann Frank exchange?

Did we watch the same segment? I made the mistake of somehow having cable news on. I was "lucky" to catch this clip...

The first thing that came to my mind is "really? Is this the person that's supposed to represent/defend my values and beliefs?" when I saw Frank trying to debate Bachmann. To be clear, I don't think Frank lost the debate-but its not because he was particularly good- but only because he was up against someone who's C...r....a....z.....y!

I mean his lack of analysis or ability to articulate what he or his party stand for was pathetic. How could he not defend giving an organization like ACORN money to do home counseling or minority/low-income voter registration? Do you see the housing crisis we're in, how could anyone get away with arguing that we shouldn't be doing more of that?! I was particularly sad to see him throw ACORN under the bus and frame it as a "republicans did it too" bs argument, with defenders and "friends" like that, who needs enemies?

someone please give the guy a clue, or at least better talking points.

Don't you mean battle between the wit and the nitwit. Michele Bachmann couldn't be more amusing if she was playing at the comedy club. Barney Frank should be on the supreme court. There is no comparison which doesn't mean I don't have the highest regard for some comedians. But Michele Bachmann could be a character someone developed for the stupid people.