Finally. Someone with access to the same info as Cheney calls him a liar publically, specifically, and without hedging. 'Bout time.

Carl's my Senator, and he's not sexy. The Lord, and anyone else who has listened to his stump speech, knows he's not an orator. Still he knows what he wants to say, and when he's done anyone who has listened is clear on what he said.

This speech is vintage Carl:
"...alienated...dishonored...false witness...lie...appearance of legality...false information...colossal misrepresentation...redefined the law...failure of leadership..."

and I hope it gets much wider exposure than it has so far.
Liz Cheney could be destroyed* with this information, but it will have to be someone who won't be steamrolled by her glibness and logorrhea.

* well, at least slightly slowed

Let's just put it out on the table: Dick, you're a liar.

While it's nice to hear Cheney called out for his distortions, the key to Levin's remarks is here, when he says, "...the pictures of abuse at Abu Ghraib, if they are once more seen as representative of America, our security will be severely set back."

He's basically siding with Obama on the suppression of these images, which I consider problematic. I'm of the opinion that all of this stuff needs to come out because it is the only way we can generate enough public/world outrage to move on war crimes for the architects of this mess.

We've been fighting two wars now for 6 long years, trying everything we can to stem the tide of extremism and embolden moderates throughout the region. Problem is, much of the Arab/Muslim world does not believe the word of America. We say we're a nation of laws, but they don't see it. So to our detriment, more people side with the extremists than the moderates.

To me, the one clear-cut way to diffuse some of this extremism and to hugely embolden the moderates (i.e. to win the war) is to show the world that (as Obama once said) "This is not who we are! We're better than this!"

This should be uploaded onto YouTube.

This will be yet one more of the thousands of examples that the Media are wired for conservatives. They are NOT "liberal".

Levin won't get a tenth of the time on the air that Cheney, Newt or any number of OTHER crackpot righties get.

Sheeeesh. They put on Cheney's daughter, fer crissakes.

Does Levin have kids? Maybe he should push to send them around to producers as well. My guess is he won't find any takers.

The Media slant right. Conservatives have been whining about the so-called "liberal bias" that never was for decades. But it's all in their flea brains.

The Media support the Establishment, and the Establishment is basically conservative. At best, centrist. It's not progressive or liberal.

And that hurts the country.

It's a shame Cheney wasn't lying about sex. Then he'd be in a lot of trouble.

At long last, the real, dirty "L-word" in American politics is being used. No, not "liberal" but "liar"! And it's about time it was used clearly and unequivocally, as in "Dick Cheney is a liar".
There was a time when there were principled GOPers who, when confronted by the perfidy of their own leadership, could actually admit it (see Barry Goldwater re: Richard Nixon). Sadly, those days are gone.

Blah blah blah . . .

Just yesterday, I posted the following in another thread about this declassification issue and the "photos" . . .

Get the damn President off his ass, the clowns on the hill off their asses, and the justice department off it's ass and get all this crap into the sunlight and let the damn chips fall where they may.

Anything less than that... then everyone in the village on the banks of the Potomac are part and parcel of the cover-up.

No matter under which political banner they try to hide.

Your mileage may vary . . .

May 28, 2009 6:20 PM | Permalink

Other than his feelings possibly being different than mine about the release of the "photos," apparently Senator Levine sees this issue about the declassification the same way.

"I hope that the documents are declassified, so that people can judge for themselves what is fact, and what is fiction."

Until it all comes out in the wash, every other individual as an elected representative in the U.S. Congress that has not taken action to get this whole mess out in the open will still be considered a party to the cover-up.

~OGD~

I don't think that torture will ever help to foster the international cooperation that we need to solve the biggest problems that beset the world today. The US should instead improve its image and help to safeguard national security by focusing more on alleviating severe poverty abroad. The Borgen Project has good info on the estimated cost of ending global poverty:

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.

Regarding Cheney's claim that classified documents will prove his case -- documents that Levin himself is also privy to -- Levin said: "But those classified documents say nothing about the numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of abusive techniques. I hope that the documents are declassified, so that people can judge for themselves what is fact, and what is fiction."

Is it possible that Cheney is not lying but delusional? That he has lost the ability to comprehend that the documents he is reading do not support his claims, or may even refute them?

Levin's outcry against the lying Mr. Cheney helps cement the only true legacy of the Bush administration--torture. Ah yes, how bitter it is. George Bush, the torture president.

CHENEY IS A WAR CRIMINAL. PROSECUTE. There is more than enough evidence that he was trying to extract false confessions so he could justify sending his Haliburton Company over to Iraq and steal billions of dollars to enrich himself and his friends. Hell, he is no better than Bush's grandfather who funded Hitler's war. No wonder he thought he would be Bush's best choice for Vice President. War criminals think they can stick together. What happens when honest people like those now testifying about his crimes come to the surface. Let's find out.....

Now that the Bush-Cheney Thugs are out of power, they can no longer use "War on Terror", "National Security" or even "Global Economy" to cover-up their graft and corruption. Nobody is Above the Law... Follow the Evidence... Follow the MONEY... Prosecute the Criminals!

Not a peep on the Sunday shows.

Shocked. I'm shocked, I tell you.