Poll: Democrat Arlen Specter Beats Toomey In Landslide, Only Narrowly Edges Ridge
The new Quinnipiac poll of Pennsylvania finds that Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) is in fairly decent shape going into his 2010 election campaign post-party switch, but there could be some vulnerabilities for Republicans to exploit if they play their cards right.
Against Pat Toomey, the conservative former Congressman whose primary challenge spurred Specter's switch, Specter leads in the general election by a whopping 53% to 33%. Specter's calculation appears to be correct, that he would have lost a Republican primary to Toomey but would also win big in a general election.
However, it's a different story when put up against moderate former GOP Gov. Tom Ridge. Here Specter leads by only 46% to 43%. The question appears to be whether the Republicans can successfully nominate a moderate who would be a stronger candidate, or whether Toomey is guaranteed a win based on heavy conservative support.
The checks-and-balances argument could potentially have some cache for the GOP, based on this question: "With Arlen Specter switching to the Democratic Party, the Democrats could have enough votes in the Senate to block any filibusters by the Republicans. Do you think that is a good thing or a bad thing?" Only 41% said this was a good thing, and 49% said it was a bad thing. This is despite President Obama's 66%-29% approval rating, too.
On the other hand, two other questions show that Specter is in good shape. First, his approval rating is 56%-36%. Second, check out the response on this question: "Some people say that by switching to the Democratic party Senator Specter is being disloyal to the Republican Party. Do you agree or disagree?" An answer of agreement on this question is basically a tautology -- and yet only 39% said so, to 57% who disagreed.
Late Update: Toomey communications director Nachama Soloveichik gives us this statement:
"This is a statement of the obvious fact that Pat Toomey is not yet well known by statewide general election voters. Where he is well known - by general election voters in the swing 15th District - and by statewide Republicans, he is overwhelmingly popular.
In the next 18 months, voters across the Commonwealth will learn the differences between Toomey and Specter on critical issues like the Wall Street bailouts, unsustainable spending and who will stand in the way of massive one-party rule in Washington. When they do, we're confident that Pennsylvanians will take the side of fiscal responsibility."


















Let's not exaggerate how moderate Ridge is. He is a 6-year Governor who served as Bush's Homeland Security Secretary. I have trouble seeing how he could lose a primary.
May 4, 2009 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody from PA want to chime in on how popular Duct Tape Ridge is in PA these days?
I'd like to see a poll of how well Sestak would do against Toomey and Ridge.
May 4, 2009 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm from PA, but I have not seen any polling on Ridge. The fact that he is pro-choice won't help him in the primary, however. If the general is between Ridge and Specter (gag me with a spoon), I can believe it will be close, given that they are basically the same person. I have not seen any polling on Sestak, but I hope somebody (Daily Kos/R2K) commissions a poll including him in the primary and general soon.
May 4, 2009 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's an American Spectator article from August 2008 that says basically the same thing as you. I am a Pennsylvanian as well, but I can't pretent to any clue what the Republican base is thinking in this state.
May 4, 2009 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
This really doesn't matter as far as I am concerned because Specter will NOT be the democratic nominee in the election. He will have to go through a real primary and as has been pointed out, this is a democratic system. Rendell and Obama are not in charge of who the nominee will be.
May 4, 2009 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
A tautology? Given that he intends to vote as he always has, and will be the bluest of all blue dogs, I would say the Republicans didn't lose anything but a little face.
May 4, 2009 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm going with a wait-and-see attitude about Specter.
I typically hate the whole purity thing, but if it turns out that he's willing to vote against the Dems on healthcare and he's willing to vote against Obama's SCOTUS nominee, then I think he should be primaried.
May 4, 2009 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's basically my attitude now too. I don't trust Specter, but I just cannot imagine Obama/Rahm threw their support behind him for nothing. So I guess I'll wait and see what they've got.
May 4, 2009 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, but I think it is essential that a primary challenge be in the works and ready to go now. If EVERYONE just waits and then by the end of the year Specter proves to be as or more Republican as he's ever been, then it will be too late to get the ball rolling on a primary challenge. On the other hand if a primary challenge gets going now but at the end of the year it turns out Specter is not bad after all, well, hey, then surely he'll win the primary challenge, so no problem.
This is all especially the case given that watching Specter when he was a Republican makes it clear that threatening him with primary challenge directly influences exactly how partisan he is or isn't....
I was going to make some kind of lame joke here about your username and changing a situation by observing it, but I'm just too sleepy.
May 4, 2009 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watch the Frost/Nixon movie advertisement then listen to Specter speak. I find the similarities interesting.
May 4, 2009 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Ridge will run. He left HS because he wanted to work in the private sector again.
Would he really want to run in an election that he doesn't know he'll win to be part of this Republican party?
Hell, his views are pretty similar to Specter's and they ran him off.
May 4, 2009 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad the poll did not test Toomey vs. Ridge in the R primary. I'd also like to see Sestak vs. Toomey and Sestak vs. Ridge. If Toomey crushes Ridge, then I'm more open to Sestak challenging Specter. If Ridge is the R nominee, then electability of the D candidate becomes a much greater concern.
May 4, 2009 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why the heck does a 78-year old man care so much about staying in the Senate that he is willing to switch parties for the purpose?
I don't trust Specter worth a damn. Iti is right and propert that he face a strong primary challenge.
May 4, 2009 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, Specter does better against far right Toomey than he does against moderate Ridge?
Sen. Inhofe, your comments?
And please make them extra goofy this time.
May 4, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe Obama and his political operatives are too smart not to be doing more than they're saying. Certainly, during the short term, they saw some advantage in Specter crossing over and throwing their support to him. But that doesn't rule out the possibility that they are not also talking to Sestak, supporting him in his threat to challenge Specter in the primary, pushing Specter to the left. I suspect the gist of those conversations to Sestak were, "you turn up the heat now, we'll support you in your current position, we'll support you i future run for the senate later, and if Specter doesn't toe the line enough or if his health or other factors force him to drop out of the 2010 race, we'll support you in that race."
In baseball, bringing in a heavy-hitter for the upcoming playoffs doesn't mean you don't keep supporting your farm league players.
May 4, 2009 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink