Sestak "Thinking Of Getting In" To The PA Senate Race
This came in at the end of the day, so consider it TPMDC's Friday news dump, but on Hardball tonight, Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA) said for the record what many of us have long inferred--that he's "thinking of getting in" to Pennsylvania's 2010 Democratic primary.
Watch:
He's come a long way. Seems like only yesterday, he was standing by his position that he was perfectly happy in the House and had no intention of dropping out. But in reality that was more like four days ago, and even then he was putting in a lot of face time on the networks.
Now when he appears, he reiterates themes and everything--questioning Specter's sincerity and leadership, touting his military record, and referencing a local diner in his district (where it seems he spends an inordinate amount of time). But still, this counts as a bit of news.
Again, 2010 is a long way off, and Specter will cast many-a-vote between now and then. But it's becoming pretty clear that Sestak isn't going to let him breathe easy along the way.




















He should jump right in and not be afraid. There are many Dems in PA who will support him over Specter. Sestak over Specter in a heartbeat.
Specter is way overestimating his support among Democrats.
May 1, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Sestak can and should continue to push this issue. He needs to stay viable and be there every time Spector has a key vote coming up. The benefits are many; It will keep Spector in line for key issues and allow Sestak to actually agressivly seek the nomination if...
- Spector isn't living up to his end of whatever deal has been struck.
- the GOP does something rational and nominate a moderate (I know, unlikely)
- Spector takes a major hit politicly for the switch and he already cast his Healthcare, EFCA, SCOTUS and energy votes and is no loger useful.
Although he should keep his rhetoric controlled as to not have to backtrack later.
Go Sestak...
May 1, 2009 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly right!
May 1, 2009 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lets hope he does. We need a real Democrat. Spectar is no DEM. His move is nothing more than a last ditch effort to save his seat. Does anyone think if Spectar were not in trouble he would switch parties?
May 1, 2009 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably not. He saw the poll numbers and made a calculated decision.
And speaking of polls (somebody ought to shoot me for saying this), but we need a poll comparing Sestak to Specter in PA Dems. It's gotta be a new one, since the cards in PA just got completely shuffled.
And then we need a poll for the general. Yeah, we are a year out and all, but this race may get to be kind of, um, interesting.
May 1, 2009 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sestak is vocal enough, I'm sure one is either under way or about to be.
May 1, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
PA needs a senator like Congressman Sestak!
I really think Western and Most of NE PA, and some of Central PA will really like Joe Sestak for Senator!
He already has SE PA locked up.
May 1, 2009 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
A great coup landing Specter:
1).Jean Hill would later be questioned by Warren Commission attorney Arlen Specter. Hill recalled her encounter with Specter with journalist/author Jim Marrs:
"The FBI took me to Parkland Hospital. I had no idea what I was doing there. They escorted me through a labyrinth of corridors and up to one of the top floors of Parkland. I didn't know where we were. They took me into this little room where I met Arlen Specter. He talked to me for a few minutes, trying to act real friendly, then this woman, a stenographer, came in and sat behind me. He had told me that this interview would be confidential, then I looked around and this woman was taking notes. I reminded him that the discussion was to be private and he told the woman to put down her notebook, which she did. But when I looked around again she was writing. I got mad and told Specter, 'You lied to me. I want this over.' He asked me why I wouldn't come to Washington, and I said, 'Because I want to stay alive.' He asked why I would think that I was in danger and I replied, 'Well, if they can kill the President, they can certainly get me!' He replied that they already had the man that did it and I told him, 'No, you don't!'
He kept trying to get me to change my story, particularly regarding the number of shots. He said I had been told how many shots there were and I figured he was talking about what the Secret Service told me right after the assassination. His inflection and attitude was that I knew what I was supposed to be saying, why wouldn't I just say it. I asked him, 'Look, do you want the truth or just what you want me to say?' He said he wanted the truth, so I said, 'The truth is that I heard between four and six shots.' I told him, 'I'm not going to lie for you.' So he starts talking off the record. He told me about my life, my family, and even mentioned that my marriage was in trouble. I said, 'What's the point of interviewing me if you already know everything about me?' He got angrier and finally told me, 'Look, we can even make you look as crazy as Marguerite Oswald and everybody knows how crazy she is. We could have you put in a mental institution if you don't cooperate with us.' I knew he was trying to intimidate me....
He finally gave me his word that the interview would not be published unless I approved what was written. But they never gave me the chance to read it or approve it. When I finally read my testimony as published by the Warren Commission, I knew it was a fabrication from the first line. After that ordeal at Parkland Hospital, they wrote that my deposition was taken at the U.S. attorney's
2).In her book, Speaking Truth to Power, Anita Hill relates her experience with Arlen Specter during the Senate confirmation hearings for Judge Thomas:
"Specter began by assuring me that he was simply trying 'to find out what happened.' Nevertheless, in short order, any hope that Senator Specter would transcend the political was dashed. He began his questioning with an unmistakably prosecutorial tone. He used a familiar cross-examination tactic--a tactic common in sexual harassment cases. He ridiculed my reaction to Thomas' behavior, suggesting that I was being oversensitive, even to the point of misrepresenting my testimony....
The tension between Senator Specter and me was measurable. The process seemed to break down completely. Senator Specter would repeat the same questions until he got the answer he wanted.... To the press and spectators, we must have sounded silly and ill tempered. More than one sigh erupted from the seats behind me as Specter returned to the questioning and I once more gave my explanation. Clearly, neither of us would budge from our position.
Something in the back of my head said, 'Just say what he wants you say and get on with it.' But I was much too stubborn to do that. And the more he pursued it, the more inclined I was to resist. Digging in was, perhaps, for me one way of hanging on to some amount of my dignity. By now I knew that his questions were both insincere and ill informed. Though I tried to answer him, I was equally determined that the senator not put words in my mouth.
With every question he asked, it became clearer that despite any declaration to the contrary, he viewed me as an adversary. Rather than seeking to elicit information, his questioning sought to elicit a conclusion that he had reached before the hearing began."
May 1, 2009 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't live in PA and it's no business of mine who the people of PA nominate or elect but no machine has the right to dictate the ballot. I believe we call that a dictatorship.
May 1, 2009 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please, somebody run against Arlen, preferably a Democrat.
May 1, 2009 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES!!!! I have your back fully if you run Congressman.
May 1, 2009 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sestak is so smart. He is doing two things here.
1.He is putting PRESSURE on Arlen Specter to vote Democratic. If you have fear of a primary challenger you wuold vote more towards your primary constituents.
2.He is testing the waters, in case he DOES have to run.
May 1, 2009 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the Nose.
And its brilliant.
Precisly what is needed.
I must admit, after living through 2000/2004, I am enjoying having a Democratic party that is functioning well with such consistancy.
May 1, 2009 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. He also raises his national profile. Winners all around for him.
May 2, 2009 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
You nailed it. Sestak has nothing to lose by hinting that he wants to run.
May 3, 2009 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let us not forget that clearly Spector can read polls. With Sestak being vocal he will be the obvious subject for comparative polling in the deomacratic primary, so Spector may in fact decide to not run.
I can be optimistic...
May 1, 2009 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Specter switched in part because he didn't want to deal with a difficult race, then you're right. But we still have him for a year-and-a-half.
May 1, 2009 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I got to beleive we the kind words from the president will at least buy a few cloture votes to make that time worth it.
I figure, no need to call for Spector's head right now, let it play out some...
May 1, 2009 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is doing it the WRONG way. He is attacking Obama in order to bring attention to himself. He should focus on Arlen Spector and STOP attacking fellow democrats in DC.
May 1, 2009 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see he went quite that far... But I certainly agree his language should be Measured.
May 1, 2009 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since Chris Matthew's remarks were edited out, it was probably Matthews who used words like "kingmaker" to draw him out, thus his response.
May 1, 2009 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually had watched the segment on MSNBC so I came away w/ sestak being forceful but respestful, precisly what is called for.
i didn't realize the impression this clip left.
May 1, 2009 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You need to watch the entire 10 minute segment. This is a spliced version that was posted.
I've seen Sestak be extremely positive and complementary of President Obama and the Washington and PA Democratic Party estabishment, not only on Hardball but on his other TV appearances this week. He simply brings up a legitimate point which many of us up here in PA are wondering about.
Why is that Washington made a deal to clear the field for Specter and elbow everyone else out? Don't we get to decide?
I thought we got rid of the king-makers back in 1776?
At least that what Independence Hall represents to us here in Philly.
May 1, 2009 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Attacking Obama; when, where, did he do that? I saw him on "Hardball", and no way does that interview translate into "attacking" Obama. I agree with the folks who say, Specter is NOT a Democrat and it's not fair for Joe Sestak, to have to "wait in line" behind a republiklan in his own party.
May 2, 2009 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope he does jump in, and I hope Sestak beats Specter. Specter is treating the Democratic party like that fat chick jocks will bang but won't take out in public.
May 1, 2009 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Sestak can pull it off. Specter could beat all comers in an election where both parties vote - just like Lieberman did. But Specter doesn't have that option - to get to the election he either has to beat Toomey with only Republicans voting or Sestak with only democrats voting. His pollster told him to go for option #2, but every time he crosses Obama he loses more and more democratic primary votes. He's got over a year to go before that primary. He'll either vote like a real democrat or he'll lose to a real democrat.
(I hope!)
May 2, 2009 4:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The only reason that Lieberman won, was that republicans voted for him to keep the Dem candidate from winning. (Oh, and some dopey dems probably voted for him too)
May 2, 2009 8:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget all the "mainstream" Dems from the national party who came to CT to campaign for Rape Gurney Joe, and sat on their hands once Lamont was the nominee.
May 2, 2009 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a Pa voter, I not only would vote for Sestak, I'd work for his campaign. The only thing good I have to say about Specter is that he is less of an a**hole than Santorum was.
May 2, 2009 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Spectoer offers the Democratic Party nothing but a weak center that makes it more vulnerable as opposed to stronger. All he's doing is trying to find some way to continue in the Senate. He's 79 for God's sake and he's been there forever. It would be time for him to go anyway. I don't live in PA but I'll gladly send contributions to Joe Sestak! Go Joe!
May 2, 2009 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm amazed this hasn't been pointed out more often this week. It may be ghoulish and impolite, but Specter will be running as an 80-year-old two-time cancer survivor. Surely the prognosis for his wellness through 2016 will be an issue.
Sestak is 22 years younger and frankly projects energy through the TV, in sharp contrast to Arlen, who always comes across as tired and staid (in fairness this has been true for a long time, but one wonders if it'll play as well for a Dem electorate in the Obama era).
Rik Hertzberg had what I think is the best read on this: the Administration thinks Specter can put Obama's healthcare plan over the top in the Senate; they're willing to sacrifice the near certainty of Joe Sestak in the Senate in 2011 for a big win in 2009. It's not an unreasonable play. But there's no obligation for the people of PA to cooperate. And if that is the play, I'd think Obama's not that unhappy to see Sestak apply keep applying the pressure on Arlen in the meantime.
May 2, 2009 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
A big win? A big win for whom? The health insurance industry which will be the major beneficiary of Obama's health care plan? I wouldn't give a thing for Obama's health insurance industry subsidy bill. Now, if we were talking about single payer I could understand, but we're not since Obama has ruled that out as part of his alliance with big health insurance companies. They may be thinking it isn't too big a deal for the reasons you point out--Specter is unlikely to live an additional six years, let alone serve so they will end up with a Democrat anyway. Unless Obama pulls out all the stops to destroy any Democrat who might challenge Specter next year, I doubt he can win a primary in either party.
May 2, 2009 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
This whole deal between the Administration & Specter has Rahm Emanuel's fingerprints all over it.
Rahm, as you will recall, refused to fund liberal candidates when he was head of the DCCC, and instead funded those who are now the "Blue Dogs."
Rahm believes Dem's need to "move to the center," so adding Specter's vote to the horrid group of Bayh, Lieberman, Lincoln, Bad Nelson, Landreau and the rest just furthers his little plan.
It's just "collateral damage" that any union member in PA will have a choice between Total WingNut Republican & Arlen the Traitor: both of 'em oppose EFCA.
Nice work remembering the "base" of the party, Rahm.
Nice also screwing all the Dem. Senators who "lose" senority as Arlen hopscotchese over them.
May 2, 2009 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right On! I cannot recall the exact poll, but it showed a majority of Pennsylvanians thinking that Specter was too old to be running for reelection. Also, you are right that Obama and Biden probably secured Specter's vote for cloture on health care. There is no way that Biden would push for the switch without some kind of deal on key votes. If anything, the Specter-switch deal simply proves what already was becoming apparent - Obama was not going to push EFCA in his first year. Specter won't be pushed to flip flop again since Obama and Reid won't push for a vote.
May 3, 2009 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like the idea os Sestak keeping Specter in line, by continuing to threaten a run for his seat. I like the idea of him actually running for his seat, even more!
May 2, 2009 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but what happens AFTER 2010 election; how will Specter vote then? He's been a republiklan since 1966, and he gave no philosophical reasons for leaving the republiklan party, instead, he stated that 'if Lincoln Chaffee, (R)-NH, had won in 2005, the republiklans would have controlled Congress in 2006-2008, and he would have gotten boooosh's judicial nominees through'; he actually said that, even if not in those exact words. Specter is NO Democrat!!!!
Joe, please run so that the Democrats can have a real Democrat, even IF the person is a ConservaDem.
May 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Down with specter, go Sestak go! Specter is a worthless politician who holds his own self-interest above those he supposedly represents.
May 2, 2009 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
And somebody, please find a "Sestak" in Nebraska. Ben Nelson has to go.
May 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd be shocked if Sestak doesn't enter the primary. He's bright, ambitious, and his resume fairly screams "US Senator" — or higher. He drives his staff extremely hard, and that's not a characteristic of somebody who's going to be content with being a lowly Congressman for the rest of his political career. If he remains a Pennsylvania resident, 2010 is his only realistic chance. He's not going to go after Bob Casey, a fellow Democrat, and even if he wanted to he'd have to wait until 2012. If he passes on going after Specter's seat in 2010, then he'll have to wait until 2016 for that seat to come up again.
I think the only reason he wouldn't go for it in 2010 would be if he simply decided he no longer wanted to be in politics. I can't believe that a career military guy like Sestak would let other politicians—even if that includes Obama—take away this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity simply because Arlen switched parties.
May 2, 2009 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
May 2, 2009 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
538 trashed Sestak a bit today, saying his voting record is no better than Specters. I find that hard to believe, living in Sestaks region. But I put it out there because Nate is a good source.
May 2, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd give 538 a serious look.
I contributed to Sestak when he originally ran, and was disappointed by a number of his votes.
But hey, ANYONE is better than that weasel Specter!
May 2, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Run Joe Ron, and let President Obama & Specter know that Democrats will not lie down and roll over because they say so. I don't trust Specter as far as I can throw him, and I am a weakling.
May 2, 2009 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
bluestatedon wrote: I'd be shocked if Sestak doesn't enter the primary. He's bright, ambitious, and his resume fairly screams "US Senator" — or higher.
I think Sestak clearly has his eyes on the White House for 2016. Running for the Senate now is the perfect stepping stone. The guy has a big military background, and despite what Nate Silver suggests, he would be more reliably liberal than Specter, not only on health care. Note Sestak's desire to take the lead on repealing "Don't ask, don't tell."
May 3, 2009 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I re-read the 538 post and comments on Sestak, and it is not clear that he is as conservative as Nate Silver suggests. He used Sestak's score on controversial issues that were decided by narrow margins, but on less controversial issues, Sestak comes out considerably more liberal. Also, Nate compares Sestak to Specter based on his projection that Specter will move to the left after switching parties. However, given Specter's age (80 in 2010) and health (2x cancer survivor), he is unlikely to seek reelection in 2016 and thus will not face the pressure pressure of future party primaries that forced other switchers to move toward the median of their new party. Indeed, if and when Specter survives (figuratively or literally) the primary and general elections of 2010, he will be a free agent for the next 6 years, and we can expect him to remain right where he has been all alone, a moderate Republican, sometimes more in voice than in vote.
May 3, 2009 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink