Specter Wants Coleman To Win In Minnesota
Memo to Sen. Arlen Specter (RD-PA): You're supposed to be a Democrat now.
In an interview with the New York Times, Specter stated in no uncertain terms that he wants Norm Coleman to win the disputed Minnesota Senate race: "There's still time for the Minnesota courts to do justice and declare Norm Coleman the winner."
So what exactly are the Dems getting out of this whole deal?
Late Update: NRSC press secretary Amber Wilkerson gives us this comment: "First he voted against President Obama's budget, then he said he wouldn't be a loyal Democrat, now he wants Norm Coleman to win. We've never agreed so much with Arlen Specter. You just have to wonder whether Joe Sestak agrees with the positions of his fellow Pennsylvania Democrat?"
Late Late Update: It's possible that Specter might have been telling a joke -- a really bad joke that someone in his position shouldn't even be attempting. I've put in a request for comment/clarification to his office, and have yet to hear back.
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Worst. Democrat. Ever.
May 5, 2009 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arlen Specter (DINO-PA).
May 5, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's lower than a dino. Who was it who said in a previous post about specter today that Benedict Arnold was too strong a term for him?
May 5, 2009 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arlen Specter (GONAD - PA)
Grand Ol' Not a Democrat
May 5, 2009 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's pretty clear Specter was making a joke in response to a question about being the last Jewish Republican in the Senate. See below in this comment thread. TPM got duped.
May 5, 2009 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's entirely clear, yes. I had no idea Coleman was Jewish. TPM got duped, and a lot of us, including me, were duped upon reading TPM.
May 5, 2009 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have thought further, actually, and no, it's not clear what he meant. He said what he said in a jovial, tongue-in-cheeck fashion is all that we can tell. He may well want the Republicans to have a Jewish Senator.
May 5, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nahhhh. If he cared about that, he would have remained the symbol of that endangered species. I think it is pretty clear that he was just trying to comically riff on the question. And now, having read the entire interview, it is clear that he was trying to do stand-up.
May 5, 2009 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If he cared about that, he would have remained the symbol of that endangered species."
No offense intended, but that's flatly illogical. He may have wanted out of the Republican caucus much more than that, but still wanted that to some degree.
"I think it is pretty clear that he was just trying to comically riff on the question. And now, having read the entire interview, it is clear that he was trying to do stand-up."
I agree fully. When he should have been stating loyalty to his new cohorts on every matter where he could bring himself, he chose to play hamlet, and in this case, to joke around. His joking bombed, show, and he has really blown it now.
May 6, 2009 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
None taken, OT. I was not wordy enough, cuz I certainly recognized the "at all" should come after "if he cared." At worst, I guess I'm guilty of the same kind of problem - making a poor/unclear attempt at humor - that I thought Specter demonstrated here.
May 6, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously - at least Zell Miller was retiring from the Senate when he flipped us the bird.
May 5, 2009 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Spector, please, please pull a Jim Jeffords. I'm begging you.
May 5, 2009 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops, I meant a Judd Gregg. Rage was fogging my brain.
May 5, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
See HatchInBrooklyn's comment below that gives more of the quote. It could have been 'witty banter'.
May 5, 2009 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unbelievable. Even DINOs at least mouth support for Democratic candidates. Worse, the statement reveals that Specter either is frighteningly ignorant about the Minnesota proceedings or is choosing to push Republican spin that he knows to be false.
At this point, even Coleman isn't arguing that he should be declared the winner. Coleman's brief asks the MNSCT only to remand the case to count more absentee ballots. Coleman's fringe position, in the alternative, is for the MNSCT to declare that it can't determine which candidate received the most legally cast ballots and force a new election. That's as far as he goes, because, at this point, there's no reasonable argument to declare Coleman the winner.
May 5, 2009 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
As matyra mentions above, HatchinBrooklyn argues pretty convincingly that Specter's comment looks like a joke when put in context. I hate when I'm fooled by a quote taken out of context.
May 5, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. I am now officially regretting my early support for converting Specter to a D.
May 5, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Primary his ass.
May 5, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
WORD! all the way home for his retirement out of politics
May 5, 2009 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do we get out of this? We get a principled senator who switched parties because the GOP moved too far to the right.
No, wait. We got a spineless political opportunist who left the GOP so he could stay in power. I cannot wait to vote against him in the primary.
May 5, 2009 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This fossil needs to be administered a 'Single Primary Bullet' - quickly - before he can do more damage than he has already done.
Why anyone 'welcomed' this flaming partisan hack to the Democratic Party is beyond me.
May 5, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question of the hour is what did he get from the dems for switching? Keeping his seniority? That can't be it -- he would have kept it even if he hadn't switched.
Sure, he is turning out to be an unhinged turd DINO, but if the answer to the question "what did the dems give him to switch?" is "nothing", then I don't get the acrimony against dems for having "welcomed him in" -- what exactly have the dems lost?
May 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the support from Obama and national dems, it would appear that the Dems have lost a chance to have an actual Democrat run against troglodyte Toomey.
(No offense to troglodytes).
May 5, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
This all better be part of some elaborate scheme developed by David Axelrod.
Please?
May 5, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't been a big fan of the "Obama's got a plan, really, and is just going to wow us all blah blah blah" but there must be something behind this, right?
It can't be the case that Obama/Biden/Reid have no idea how unreliable Specter actually is, could it?
I mean Specter spent years proclaiming his concerns about the Bush Administration, about this, that, and the other thing, only to vote the Bush line when push came to shove, so the Democratic leadership can't be surprised by this. And if they are, we are in deep shit.
May 5, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
May 5, 2009 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was funny for about a day to watch the GOoPers crap themselves.
This isn't funny anymore.
May 5, 2009 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really hate to say this but is it possible that Specter is losing it? His behaviour doesn't reflect that of a person in complete control of their faculties. How can he become a Democrat and then root for Norm Coleman? That is a sign of some kind of problem if you ask me.
This may end being a major embarassment for him and for the Democrats and the Republicans will milk it for all it's worth considering what compassionate folks they are....
May 5, 2009 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it's one thing for him to say he's going to be independent yada yada, but he's overdoing it now.
It's one thing for him to be against certain policies, but how on earth can you justify saying you want your party to shrink?
May 5, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before the switch, he was on page 14 when he said something. Now he's got the microphone and an instant audience, and page 1 or 2 appeal. It's a new thing for him and he has no f'n idea what the f he's doing.
(yeah, I know I'm using print journalism references--it's a shout out to them!)
May 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone know how to submit his photo to wikipedia under the subject DINO with some text for context?
That would be a great screen shot.
May 5, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this real, TPM-ers?
Or is it some *strange and twisted dream?!*
:(
May 5, 2009 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, it's for reals.
May 5, 2009 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
I mean, really - wow. Brain fart of the year.
May 5, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
In related news, Specter says that he wants the Cardinals to win the last Super Bowl.
May 5, 2009 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's doubly funny. Dissing Pennsylvanians and his 'stuck in the past'-ness at the same time!
(BTW, at costume parties, I go as "Mr. Obvious")
May 5, 2009 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose that he did not elaborate on how that wo;uld be 'justice' because he would have sounded like a full-blown, republican 'we just want to win and nothing else matters dude'. Oh, nevermind he already sounds like that, he doesn't try to hide it.
May 5, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
i am impressed that for all the things he has done over the course of his career, the good and the bad, the battles with various diseases etc.
this last 16 months is what will define him,
and the most scary to me, since i live and work in pa, is the thought of arlen, loosing the primary, and having 8 months or so of his senate career left to vote and do as he truly pleases.
May 5, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't want to be mean or untoward or anything, but it is curious to me that few people have noted the fact that he's 79 and a survivor of two courses of chemo, which can knock the crap out of one's brain. I'm not saying he suffers from dementia, but when you look at his behavior over the past two months -- veering sharply right, then switching parties, then continuing to act like a Republican anyway -- it hardly seems like the course a rational person would take, even allowing for Specter's longstanding opportunism and lack of principle.
May 5, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Bunning would agree with you. . .
May 5, 2009 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
My boyhood hero turned adult freak show.
May 5, 2009 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, but that adult freak show was pretty insightful today.
May 5, 2009 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the whole I preferred life when he was an embarrassment to the Republican party and to the state of Pennsylvania. Somehow without my consent I've taken part-ownership of this piece of shit whom I have loathed since the Warren Commission (and don't get me started on Anita Hill or his peculiar ideas on the reach of Scottish jurisprudence). Once again I feel constrained to point out that both he and Bob Dole come from Russell, KS; and while it may be a blameless little place, plenty of even more blameless places in Kansas get tornadoed away...
May 5, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
In context Specter's comment is clearly tongue in cheek:
"With your departure from the Republican Party, there are no more Jewish Republicans in the Senate. Do you care about that?
Specter: I sure do. There’s still time for the Minnesota courts to do justice and declare Norm Coleman the winner."
Mark Halperin is a tool (as usual) for pushing this.
May 5, 2009 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where'd you get this? Context is everything, but the links above don't give any quotes. Link please?
May 5, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I found the whole quote here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Specter-to-Minnesota-courts-Elect-Norm-Coleman-44391112.html
But there's still too little to know if it was a joke or not. We need the whole quote--or some video to see his face as he's saying it. He may have been just goofing off.
May 5, 2009 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question makes it HIGHLY probable that Specter was joking, this really should not be on the front page of TPM.
May 5, 2009 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm starting to agree with you. I guess we find out on Sunday: Stay tuned! I'm creating controversy to get a bigger audience!
Actually what you say is making a TON of sense. Thanks for the dig.
May 5, 2009 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Especially Specter's "Sure I do!" Who says "Sure I do" when they aren't making a joke? I mean, the phrase is something you'd here in Old Lassie episodes with Eddie Haskell talking to June Cleaver.
But then again, Specter's pretty damn old.....
May 5, 2009 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we'll have to wait for the NYT article, but it certainly makes a lot more sense. One of two things has to be true:
1. Specter has lost his mind.
2. Halperin took something out of context to make a sensation and to skewer Specter.
Which seems more likely?
May 5, 2009 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, maybe we've got a new jokester in the Blue Dogs.
May 5, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're right. I overreacted above. I hate when I am fooled by a quote taken out of context.
May 5, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do we really, really need this sleaze-ball in the Democratic party? I mean really, do we?
I already liked him better as a Republican. Only Lieberman is worse and even that is hard to discern.
May 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Specter made it very clear from the beginning that this is all about him, his desire to die as a Senator, his legacy, his beliefs, his career, etc. I can't remember him saying one positive thing about the Democratic Party. He clearly doesn't believe in any position of the Democratic Party, other than its apparent position to back him in his self-centered pursuit of death in the senate.
Maybe he was just so moved by seeing Thurmond wheeled out to vote when the spirit moved him, that he wants to go that way too. I vote that we put a Denver Boot on any wheelchair he gets.
May 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This man is a disgrace and the Democrats should have told him they do not want him. I hope he gets his a** kicked in the upcoming election.
May 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, retire already!! WTF is it with these old men that they cannot just go home?
May 5, 2009 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's about as good as an Insurance policy as you can get in America, that is to say "better than nothing",...as sad as it sounds. He's to be trusted about as much as Lieberman. Remember what he's said,....he's switching to be a Democrat just because the polls say he can't win as a Republican. Obama/Reid should throw him overboard if he doesn't come up with a few key votes in future legislation.
May 5, 2009 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right now I am wondering what it means to belong to a party! Is it enough that one just declares that they belong to a party or is there some metric that can be used to determine if you really are part of the party! For instance to belong to a party you have to vote along party lines lets say 50% of the time. Any less and you are not really in the party! Don’t know that magic number but shouldn’t we have some metric? Wonder what his voting record is with the dems? Wonder what it will be?
May 5, 2009 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. I am now convinced that Arlen Narcissist is just playing a big joke on everyone.
Or he is senile.
Actually - I am now thinking he IS going to retire and just wanted to go out with as much publicity as possible, and Not on the losing side. Sticking it to some Repubs who have been critical of him - was just an added bonus.
May 5, 2009 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dang guys, I'm as tepid about his switch as anyone, but this really does look to me like he was giving a wise-ass response to what was percieved to be a bullshit question that Toolboy Halperin is dishonestly flogging as a sincere gaffe. The fact that Coleman's opponent is a Jewish comedian also kind made me think that might well be the case.
Possibly, however, my tendency to assume the worst about Halperin is unjustly outweighing my tendency to assume the worse about Specter.
May 5, 2009 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, I agree. HatchInBrooklyn was talking about this above; that it's a joke answer to a bullshit question.
May 5, 2009 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
and I just completely plagiarized you. Gotta stop doing that.....
May 5, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the interviewer said "Jewish Republican," not "Jewish Senator," so I fail to see how it was a joke about both Coleman and Franken being Jewish.
May 5, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nobody said it was a good joke. Just a dumb "hardy har, well the Minnesota courts can still do the right thing!" There's no chance in hell Specter said that with a straight face, and I am baffled the Josh and the rest of the TPM crew are still rolling with this absolutely idiotic story.
May 5, 2009 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Following up.
The interview is ">here. With the exception of his answer to the Anita Hill question, the tone of the entire interview in general was pretty much dryly droll.
The complete exchange is as follows:
On the other hand, over at Toolboy's site, the headline was as follows:
I think Halperin is just being an snide asshole and TPM, and most of us, just got played by the Tool. He probably thinks its really funny that he managed to stir up a blog shitstorm with a post that he'll now contend was supposed to be a tongue in cheek commentary about how the dirty effing hippies go crazy at the mere mention of Specter's name.
May 5, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crap, didn't close the tag.
The interview is
I'd really suggest y'all go look at the interview and the Halperin link before all crazy on Specter and redirect your ire at Halperin for playing us for fools.
May 5, 2009 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Time has any credibility, Halperin should be fired for this. That said, Specter's an idiot for even making the joke. He should have known better.
May 5, 2009 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
ARRRRGH!!!!! WTF?
Okay, screw the "a" tag. The link to the interview is here, dammit:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/10/magazine/10wwln-q4-t.html?ref=magazine
May 5, 2009 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love you, brother - but you've butchered this exchange. He wasn't kidding.
I'm sorry, I don't see a joke there. He may be somewhat resigned to the fact that Coleman will lose (or even slightly hopeful that, like his unlikely conversion, something unusual will happen). There's no tongue-in-cheek from Specter there until the last sentence.
I'd like to think I have a healthy sense of humor, but I don't see the joke here.
May 5, 2009 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just the tone of the whole interview. From the outset they were joking about having only 10 minutes. Then Jerry Seinfeld's thrown in, and switching parties, and Norm Coleman, who everybondy knows has no chance and has become a joke. If we had video or audio, it would nail it. But for now, we've got interpretation. But it looks like banter to me.
May 5, 2009 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry - I disagree. There's a light bit at the beginning, but there's a serious question about his party switch, and any knucklehead with the slightest political awareness would figure that joking about something like this would be unwise.
The Times is up with a front-page headline that reads, "Specter Backs Coleman for Senate". Seems to me that they don't think he was joking, either.
May 5, 2009 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reads like a lame ass joke. Arlen is old, senile and the Living Dead. He thinks he made a funny, not knowing it was lame. He'll walk it back as a joke.
John
May 5, 2009 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good catch.
I hate Halperin.
May 5, 2009 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
can we please install a permanent ignore button for halperin already?
May 5, 2009 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me again why the Democrats decided to be enablers for Specter's obsessive need to remain in the Senate for the rest of his life no matter what?
Reid sickens me.
May 5, 2009 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've always loathed him and thought he was slime from the Anita Hill hearings. I can't forgive him for that. Never never never. So why is anyone surprised he's this big a jerk?
May 5, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do they accept returns?
May 5, 2009 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
And if anyone thinks that he was merely being sarcastic...whatever. The guy wasn't obviously doing anything except for screwing himself politically. If he was in fact kidding, he should have said so. Unequivocally. Because there are plenty of people (like me, admittedly) that take this shit a little too seriously, and he should know that after all these years.
And frankly, it's not something to kid about. He's talking about rooting for a guy - based on the question, based on his shared religion - to win even though most sources have that guy with the fewer votes.
Yeah, that screams "ha-ha-ha".
I literally cannot wait to go door-to-door here in PA for whatever Dem primary opponent of Specter's that I choose. I don't want to throw in with Sestak just yet - I haven't investigated his positions and principles. But, unlike Specter, I presume that he actually has some.
May 5, 2009 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
And even though NC Steve's debunked this above, my points still largely stand. Specter's an idiot for even saying it.
May 5, 2009 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay--Gawd, I hate that I'm defending Specter; tastes like unripe grapefruit, ack ptooie--but given that Franken's Jewish too, you can't really say he's even joking about supporting Coleman based his religion, can you?
May 5, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I didn't think about that, really. Yeah, that fact only serves to weaken that argument, doesn't it?
See my response to you above - I don't think he was kidding at all...
May 5, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specter wasn't this disagreeable when he was a Republican.
He's inviting some heavy backlash from Democrats.
May 5, 2009 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's already alienated most of the state party. Remember jackass, between Obama and Rendell, ONE vote. I'm already gearing up for his primary defeat...
May 5, 2009 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The more I think about it, the more Halperin's little stunt here pisses me off.
He deliberately pushed our buttons to provoke an unjustified knee-jerk response. The image of that insufferable prick, martini glass in hand, amusing a crowd of his fellow Villagers with his tale of the risability of the angry leftwing d.f.h. bloggers at some D.C. cocktail party makes me well, really angry.
May 5, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I googled d.f.h. and got 'drumkit from hell'. What do you mean?
But yeah, it was a stunt to, um, drum up numbers.
(sorry)
May 5, 2009 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Halperin is yanking our chain.
I blame TPM for 1) reading Halperin -- just say no to rightwing memes! 2) lapping it up uncritically and feeding it to us. Pretty lazy blogging.
May 5, 2009 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specter was an embarassment as a Republican. Now the Democrats are an embarassment for accepting this guy with open arms. Especially Joe Biden who, apparently, was the person who got this ball rolling.
Will they EVER learn???
May 5, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get rid of him!
May 5, 2009 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fund Sestak, primary Specter, and get rid of him. Any good Democratic candidate will crush Toomey, who is a nut case.
May 5, 2009 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, I think Ridge will be the opponent, not Toomey. Pennsylvania has its share of nuts, but Toomey's even less electable in a general than is Specter.
May 5, 2009 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a moran!
May 5, 2009 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arlen is just trying to make Joe Lieberman look good.
It isn't working, but that seems to be his goal. Some kind of hazing ritual, I suppose.
May 5, 2009 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chris Matthews showed the question Specter was responding to with his answer. It was a weird question about Specter being jewish and leaving the Party. He may have been joking in his response.
Eric, can you get the question?
May 5, 2009 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric, I see your update. Sounds to me like he was joking.
May 5, 2009 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the difference between a DINO and a REPUBLICAN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I GURANTEE YOU Ben Nelson or Joe Liberman wouldn't say something like that. They might be sucky Dem's but they ARE DEMS.
May 5, 2009 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that was a joke..........I still don't like him lol.
May 5, 2009 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Arlen, a really bad joke would be Dems are going to support you in 2010!
May 5, 2009 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama had made this joke it wouldn't be a blip, but the right would be screaming like crazy.
The over-reaction here is astounding.
May 5, 2009 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specter is a misogynistic opportunist. I remember how poorly he conducted himself in the Anita Hill, Clarence Thomas dust up.
Check this blast from the out.
http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=557
May 5, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be fair, if he wasn't joking, he may have made a public statement of support for Coleman's challenge before he switched
To be blunt, if he wasn't joking and this was his first pronouncement on the subject, I think he's mentally unfit to hold public office - He's too old...to sick..too out of it
May 5, 2009 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Overreaction. He was clearly joking.
This is the kind of stuff I hate when the GOP/MSM pulls. You know, like Michelle Obama's "proud of my country". They grab a quote and spin and spin.
As a bonus, this comes from GOP trickster Halperin. You're all suckers.
May 5, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree and I said it somewhere here, that he was clearly goofing. What he really meant, we'll never fully know.
This is what people mean when they emphasize the importance of clear communication, though. If you demonstrate loyalty, clearly, you got a shot at keeping your seniority.
May 6, 2009 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
One Joe Lieberman is enough.
May 5, 2009 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
HES 79 yrs old, isnt enough enough! And he wants us to beleive the country cant run without him,, another political joke,, time for him and byrd and kennedy and a bunch of others to realize that its not THEIR country its ours also, so retire and let the progress continue instead of trying to hold on. Spector is a good example of not knowing when to pack it in. We democrats dont want him, and I hope come primary time that becomes really plain to him.
May 6, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
OKAY PEOPLE, ARE YOU CONVINCED NOW? HE WAS NOT JOKING!
May 7, 2009 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink