TPMDC Sunday Roundup
Axelrod: Obama Won't Rule Out Middle-Class Tax Hike
Appearing on This Week, Senior White House David Axelrod did not rule out the idea of President Obama raising taxes on people making under $250,000 -- which Obama pledged not to do during the 2008 campaign -- in order to fund health care. "One of the problems we've had in this town is that people draw lines in the sand and they stop talking to each other. And you don't get anything done," said Axelrod. "That's not the way the president approaches us. He is very cognizant of protecting people -- middle class people, hard-working people who are trying to get along in a very difficult economy. And he will continue to represent them in these talks."
McConnell: We Have Best Health Care System In The World
Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) attacked the Democrats' health care proposals. "Well, listening to them, you wouldn't recognize that America has the finest health care system in the world. We have some problems with access and with cost, which can -- addressed without wrecking the best health care system in the world," said McConnell. "What they really have in mind, Bret [Baier], is to create a government-run plan after which there won't be any private insurance companies."
Poll: Large Majority Favors Sotomayor Confirmation
A new ABC/Washington Post poll finds that 62% of Americans believe Sonia Sotomayor should be confirmed to the Supreme Court, compared to only 25% who are opposed to her. These numbers are stronger than they were for John Roberts and Samuel Alito at the comparable points in their own confirmation processes.
Axelrod: Obama Has Written Letter To Jackson Family
Appearing on Meet The Press, Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod said that President Obama has written a letter of condolence to the family of Michael Jackson. There are no plans to release the letter to the public.
Graham: Dems Practicing Rove, DeLay Politics
Appearing on Meet The Press, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) accused the Democrats of practicing the dirty politics of Karl Rove and Tom DeLay. "The climate change bill was Tom DeLay, banging heads," Graham said. "The process was beating people up and making them vote for something."
Graham: Sanford Can Continue As Governor If He Saves His Marriage
Also during his Meet The Press appearance, Graham said that Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) can continue in office if he reconciles with his family. "I think if Mark can reconcile with Jenny, and that's not going to be easy, that he can finish his last 18 months (as governor)," said Graham, who had previously managed the impeachment of Bill Clinton. "He's had a good reform agenda and I do believe that if he can reconcile with his family, if he's willing to try, that the people of South Carolina would be willing to give him a second chance."
Odierno: Iran Still Interfering In Iraq
Appearing on State of the Union , Gen. Ray Odierno said that Iran is continuing to interfere in Iraq, by training insurgents and paying surrogates. But he said that his own mission is limited to providing security within Iraq, regardless of provocation from elsewhere. "I'm not authorized to do anything outside the borders of Iraq," said Odierno.
Pawlenty On Health Reform: "We Can't Afford It"
Appearing on State of the Union, potential presidential candidate Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) came out against President Obama's plans to reform health care, objecting on fiscal grounds. "And, so no, we can't afford it. This is a nation that has got a debt load and a deficit load that is unsustainable," said Pawlenty. "We're going to have, in my view, the federal government debt crisis equivalent of the mortgage crisis within 20 years."


















And David Axelrod will be clarifying those comments in.............?
June 28, 2009 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Sanford Supports ‘Cap and Trade’ … of Families
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=7626
June 28, 2009 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Pawlenty, you'd know- after all you "couldn't afford" to maintain bridges so they won't collapse.
What dumb assholes these goopers are.
June 28, 2009 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This particular one certainly is, but I wouldn't apply this to all conservatives. If the polls are to be believed, most rank and file republicans are way ahead of their Head Idiots in Charge.
June 29, 2009 6:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama raises taxes on anybody but the rich, he's toast in 2012. He will get hammered over and over again on that and won't be able to do anything about it.
June 28, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree. The only way he got elected was because people in the middle class believed him. If he loses that, he's sunk. I'll never vote for a republican, but staying home in an option after all the work and money I donated last time.
June 28, 2009 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
what would be wrong with trading a little tax increase for universal coverage? pandering to the under 250k masses was smart politically, but was my least favorite part of his campaign. Too often we are willing to ride on the backs of the few (i am thinking more of soldiers here than the rich).
gw gave loaves to the rich, and crumbs to the masses. if we need to take the loaves back, then i think the crumbs should come too.
June 28, 2009 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
My problem with this is that if we truly had single-payer, across-the board, even payments, we wouldn't need a middle-class tax increase. All of us are used to paying for health care. If we all (AND I MEAN ALL, including Federal employees and Congress et al) had to pay an equitable (and equal) amount into the system, we would all be better off.
Witness any system in the world except our very own.
There is no legitimate argument against it. I dare you to produce one!
June 28, 2009 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't have the votes to pass.
June 29, 2009 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree 100%. The trouble is that simply letting the Bush tax cuts for the top two brackets expire in at the end of 2010 won't raise enough money to fund healthcare reform and other changes Obama wants to bring about. That would mean a) eliminating some of the tax breaks employers get for providing health insurance for their employers, something Obama said he wouldn't do and criticized McCain for wanting to do or b) implement more upper income tax cuts then just letting the income tax rate go back to Clinton levels for the top two brakets - ie, limiting deductions - eg, charitable - for the top brackets, increasing the captial gains and/or dividend tax rates, etc. The GOP would scream hypocrisy re: "a" and they'd kind of be correct in doing so, but that would go over much better than a flat out middle income tax rate increase. Obama has already proposed and favored "b", and it would affect only a small percentage of wealthy earners, but Blue Dog Dems have already declared those options a non-starter. I'm all for "b" but, yeah, if the income tax rate for anybody making under $250K goes up during Obama's first term, he'll have a lot of trouble in 2012, especially if the economy is still crappy or even somewhat crappy by that time.
June 28, 2009 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Solution: cut the @#$*$!@ Pentagon budget and let the goddamn neocons freak out about it- who cares.
June 28, 2009 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you'd also have Dems who represent districts with a large military base and/or military contractor presence raise a stink. Might not be enough votes to stop anything. Of course, you'd also have the standard "Dems hate the troops/America/freedom" attacks from the right. Do they still work? I don't know.
Don't get me wrong - the Pentagon budget is one, big fat Cold War era pig that needs to go on a big time diet, but that's one place Dems are very afraid to go.
June 28, 2009 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
They need to talk about spending the money more wisely vice cutting the budget. We could but the budget in half and not affect our defense one iota.
I think most Americans, republican and democrat alike, would see the wisdom in closing Cold War era bases around the globe and bringing those troops back home. Maybe even reopening some of the bases that were closed in the 90s. Not to mention the dramatic and almost immediate affect that would have on local economies, most of them devastated since the military pulled out.
There is a solution to this problem, but it requires thinking outside the left-right paradigm we are stuck in.
June 29, 2009 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama knows that is why that won't happen. I think Axelrod is just not saying yes or no to anything right now until there is legislation that makes it out of committee.
June 28, 2009 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama wants to play JFK let him put income tax rates back to the way they were in 1961.
Time to face reality folks. We have no major progressive party in this country. Time to start one.
June 28, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?
June 28, 2009 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's not. That's just a statement of common sense. The Democrats are a centrist party by any reasonable standard. Not a thing wrong with that, it's just that it'd be nice to have a viable alternative other than just a centrist party and a far-right party. Won't happen, of course, as long as we have this rigged two-party duopoly.
June 28, 2009 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't mean to speak for FreeRider, but I think his comment was aimed at the "We have no major progressive party in this country. Time to start one" proclamation. Bluebell has been declaring for a few months now that he/she/it is going to leave, move to Canada, vote for a third party candidate etc. None of which has happened. And now he/she/it declares that it's time to start a real, major progressive party in this country. As much as I personally would love it if that actually happened, I don't hold out much hope that Bluebell is going to play any part in it.
June 29, 2009 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
No Xantar I think his comments were not just directed at what BB said but at the person in general. Basically because all BB does is post negativity and spite and usually FreeRider is right in what he says in that BB makes a fool out of her/himself by posting nothing but spite and I have to agree
I don't think it will happen. Obama is a smart man who knows what he's doing. He know that even to pay for healthcare reform, Obama will be slammed six way to sunday for implimenting a tax hike on the middle class and cost him '12. This is the truth and that why I don't think he'll do it. Plus at this point at the discussion every idea is getting floating around, dosen't mean it will be implimented and I know it won't because it will be political suicide.
Anyways that's my two cents on the matter. Take care and have a good one everyone.
June 29, 2009 1:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're exactly right. Bluebell's negativity is so persistent and over the top, it's become a complete joke. If she read a story about Obama rescuing a drowning man, she'd complain that he should have taught him how to swim.
June 29, 2009 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, not to speak for Bluebell, but I think the proper pronoun gender is "she."
June 29, 2009 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
My bad. Thanks.
June 29, 2009 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
When McConnell says "we have the best healthcare system in the world," he must be referring to the ones that he and those in the Senate & Congress enjoy.
June 28, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We have some problems with access and with cost..."
Yes... except for the fact that you cannot get it and cannot afford it, our health care is the best in the world...
June 28, 2009 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
McConnell: "America has the finest healthcare system in the world*"
* = Where 'finest' in no way refers to the actual quality of said healthcare, mortality rates, efficiency, or percentage of people who need medical care actually receiving it; 'finest' instead refers to the sheer profit to be made in a neo-monopolistic captive-customer system in a hyper-parasitic unethical business model, jacking up premiums faster than a rocket and denying coverage in every quasi-legal way possible. And pay no attention to those World Health Organization numbers -- Amurrka can't possibly be 37 in ANYTHING, golly!
That's what he really meant.
June 28, 2009 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, re: Pawlenty's comments about healthcare reform being unaffordable: Y'know, the debt would be a whole lot smaller if we cut military spending to something more proportionate and sane. The U.S. spends 10x as much as the next nearest country (China) (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/spending.htm)
America spends over $600b a year on its military -- and that number never goes down, as it seems to be even more sacrosanct than ethanol subsidies. China spends $60b/year. The entire rest of the world, including America's allies spend $500b/year combined.
Just one angle...
June 28, 2009 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
not that you aren't right, but i don't believe the $60b number.
June 28, 2009 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
That isn't far off the mark.
Key data point from the article: The USA’s military spending accounted for 45 per cent of the world total in 2007, followed by the UK, China, France and Japan, with 4–5 per cent each.
With global military expenditures in the $1.4 trillion range, that would put China at around $63 billion if accounting for 4.5% of the total.
June 29, 2009 6:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'll have to pardon the Senator from Kentucky. When he said:
He meant, of course, Congress.
June 29, 2009 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Earth to Mitch McCranky ....
We do NOT have the world's best health care, just the most expensive!
June 29, 2009 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone wanna bother reading the costs on the nuts and bolts?
Right here at that Cafe:
Cold Hard Facts: Health Care Reform and the Federal Budget
~OGD~
June 29, 2009 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
The more the republican "leadership" talks the more I am convinced that we are hearing their swan song. Meaning, as obnoxious as it is, it will soon be permanently over one way or another.
June 29, 2009 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink