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Bachmann Speaks Out Against Census -- And Government Asking About People's Mental Stability

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) appeared on the Glenn Beck show yesterday evening, to keep on her new campaign to not completely fill out her census reform. She is drawing a line against government intrusion, despite the $5,000 fine that could potentially be imposed.

Bachmann again invoked a historic connection between the Census and the Japanese-American internment -- and she objected to the government looking into people's mental health:

"Well, I think everyone in the country has been happy about what I've said -- other than the U.S. Census Bureau," said Bachmann. "So I think other than that, we're doing pretty well."

Bachmann also differentiated between the 28-page American Community Survey, which only a tiny fraction of Americans will receive, and the short form that everyone gets -- and she objected to both of them. "Does the federal government really need to know our phone numbers?" she asked. "Do they really need to know, like you said, the date and time that we leave mental stability?"


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"Do they really need to know, like you said, the date and time that we leave mental stability?"
Yeah, the exact date and time that Michelle Bachmann left mental stability isn't really all that important to me.
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The time isn't important to me either, but I would be curious about the date. Then probably the place, of course.

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Yes. We need to know when you leave mental stability. We want a list of Americans to give us a rough idea how crazy we've gotten. And we're not going to set up internment camps for Japanese- can't really tell when they're crazy.
We will, however, establish a camp for Fox News characters to go and find like-minded freaks to reassure each other they're the sane.

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I may be suffering a bias here, assuming there was a point of departure. Can some be born Republican?

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As a retired engineer I am used to solving problems. This one is easy. We just get the voter registrations for all citizens, note when they registered Republican. Problem solved, and Michelle can go back to being happy - still batshit crazy, but happy.

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Hi!  I'm a droid from the Michelle Bachmann Nebula, and, yes, I'm Still Crazy After All These Years.

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I've heard it's from bad parenting.

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Do they really need to know, like you said, the date and time that we leave mental stability?

That would be about the time anyone enters your district.

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Yesssss!

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"Well, I think everyone in the country has been happy about what I've said -- other than the U.S. Census Bureau," said Bachmann. "So I think other than that, we're doing pretty well."

Oh Michele, I don't think the government will have to use a census to look into your mental stability. I think that matter is all pretty well documented in your public statements. Case in point: You think everyone in the country is happy about what you've said. Take a poll.

And, if you're worried about the government getting your phone number from the census...

Holy crap, Pollyanna, there are only about a thousand different ways they can get it, not counting looking at your tax returns (You do file tax returns, don't you?).

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Or, you know, a phone book. Or that series of tubes thing.

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(Psst- does she know it's in the Constitution? )

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I don't remember if she said anything specifically, but I'd bet she was gung-ho for warrantless wiretapping.

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I work across the aisle from someone who lives in her district and, judging from the noises he was making before the last election, I'm pretty sure the asshat voted for her.

It's hard to respect your co-worker when his brain is so incredibly JACKED!

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Tolerance does not mean respect.

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As I said yesterday, Bachmann is auditioning to be Beck's cohost.
Two bats in a belfry.

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"Does the federal government really need to know our phone numbers?"

I can understand your concern, Michele. If they know your phone number, they might want to tap your phone line. They might not even get a warrant first. Or they might look at your e-mails. Or look at what books you've checked out at the library or movies you've checked out from the video store. They might look at what you've searched for on the internet. Why, they might even throw you in jail without charges and not let you speak to your family or a lawyer for years!

It's insidious, I tell you. It makes you long for the good ol' days of the Bush regime, doesn't it?

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I can hear the FBI, CIA, NSA and Secret Service cracking up as they monitor the actions and words of this crackpot. At least I hope one of those agencies are watching.

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Man, if it's too crazy for Glenn Beck...

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"Do they really need to know, like you said, the date and time that we leave mental stability?"

That assumes, perhaps incorrectly in her case, that one is mentally stable to begin with.

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She doesn't have a problem with locking up Muslims indefinitely without criminal charges, right?
Just checking.

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Or with Bush's warrantless wiretaps.

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I think it's generally a bad idea for Michelle Bachmann to say anything about mental stability.

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She is being open minded. She has heard such a state of being exists, but she has never actually experienced it herself. But just in case it really does exist, she wants to leave the possibility open for those hypothetical people that are in that mystical state.

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It's a cry for help.

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She's high on krelp.

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I sigh, then yelp.

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PLEASE, folks, note that the $5000 in fines, if levied, will come directly from the citizens of this nation who DO fill out their census forms, pay their taxes, and spend their time actually working for their employers, not emulating the likes of these folks who call themselves Representatives, Congressmen/women and Senators, whose sole purpose is to use your hard earned money for self promotion.

These folks, at one time worked for us, but they are now all self employed, thinking and working only for themselves and their own goals. The public is nothing more than an income source...

THEY ARE LEACHES, folks.... IMHO

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That's a great point. People in Minnesota should stand up and say "I DON'T WANT MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING FOR MICHELLE BACHMANN TO BREAK THE LAW"

I'm still waiting for someone to ask her the question: "You don't like this law, so you plan to break it. You're a lawmaker. If you aren't working to change laws you don't like, what exactly do you do all day?"

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She's fighting mental health on behalf of all Americans, whether we want her to or not.

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If we all got completely sane overnight, how fast would the nation descend into violence and looting?

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Michelle Bachmann... the comedy gift that just keeps on giving. As for the government needing to know when she left "sanity"...think her on the record words pretty much answered that one...and how much farther from Mens Sana station she's traveled.

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Oh man, I so cannot wait until Comrade Barack can finally suspend the Constitution, declare the People's Republic of America and start gathering up all the Enemies of the People and shoving them into the secret internment camps. It's driving me crazy that we have to wait until the census is complete to do it and, in the meantime, we have to continue this sham of legislating, as if won't just get universal health care and carbon caps by decree after the Revoution is declared. Oh, and executive compensation caps? Yeah, we'll cap those mothers, all right. Up against the Wall Street, mofos.

Hell, I'm glad she's on to us. The more of 'em who won't go down without a fight, the fewer we'll have to reeducate.

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Careful. Someone will copy your post to RedState and gun sales will go up another 5%.

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And Drudge will have a flashing siren and screaming headline: "THE LEFT ADMITS PLOT TO DESTROY COUNTRY"

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You know, she's kinda good looking, maybe an attractive version of Ann Coulter.
Lotsa miles though, and that fruitcake grin doesn't really work for me.

I'm married, but I guess if I were a RNC functionary I'd do her, and then decry the moral decline of the country and write a defense-of-marriage bill.

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She gives me the creeps. Maybe it's just all that inner ugliness seeping through, but I don't see anything so hot about the outside, either.

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Is this some goofy set-up to objecting to using the census for redistricting purposes because so many proud Americans refused to participate?

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BINGO!

We have some lovely parting gifts for you. . .

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Has Michelle Malkin weighed in on this yet? I know how vocally she was in favor of the Japanese internment camps when it was the Muslims we were going to be rounding up...

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Just turn the Census Bureau over to Google. That'll make her happy (and they probably have all the information she's bitching about already).

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Michelle, sweetie, the telephone number question is O-P-T-I-O-N-A-L. That means you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. If you'd rather have a census worker (ACORN!!!) knocking on your door rather than calling on the phone to ask about all the other things you have failed to answer on your form, then by all means, leave it blank.

Oh, and hey: take a tip from the drug dealers. You can always buy a prepaid mobile phone, give them the number for that, and then toss it out when the census period is over.

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Not sure where this chick is coming from with regard to "Do they really need to know, like you said, the date and time that we leave mental stability?" Maybe she's just hallucinating again. The closest thing I can find to anything like that in the ACS is this set of questions (pdf), under the category "Disability" (and the publication notes that questions about disability appeared on every census from 1830 to 1930, were dropped, and then re-appeared in 1970 and have been on every census since):

16. a. Is this person deaf or does he/she have serious difficulty hearing? (Y/N)

b. Is this person blind or does he/she have serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses? (Y/N)

17. a. Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions? (Y/N)

b. Does this person have serious difficulty walking or climbing stairs? (Y/N)

c. Does this person have difficulty dressing or bathing? (Y/N)

18. Because of a physical, mental, or emotionalcondition, does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as visiting a doctor’s office or shopping? (Y/N)

That's it. The justification for the questions, according to the Census Bureau:

MEETING FEDERAL NEEDS

Information on disability is used by a number of federal agencies to distribute funds and develop programs for people with disabilities. For example, data about the size, distribution, and needs of the disabled population are essential for developing disability employment policy. For the Americans with Disabilities Act, data about functional limitations are important to ensure that comparable public transportation services are available for all segments of the population. Federal grants are awarded, under the Older Americans Act, based on the number of elderly people with physical and mental disabilities.


COMMUNITY BENEFITS

Transportation

Disability data are used to allocate funds for mass transit systems to provide handicapped facilities.

Under the Americans with Disabilities Act, local transit authorities use the data on the number of individuals with functional limitations in order to ensure public transportation services are comparable to those for individuals without disabilities.

Social Services

Under the Older Americans Act, these data assist state and local agencies concerned with aging to develop health care and other services tailored to the disabilities of the elderly.

Disability data are used by state and county agencies to plan for eligible recipients under the Medicare and Medicaid programs.

Employment

Data about people with disabilities are used to allocate funds to states and local areas for employment and job training programs for veterans.

So by urging Minnesotans not to answer these kinds of questions, Bachmann may be setting up Minnesota to get shorted on Federal funding, because the data are used to show where the need is. Why does Michelle Bachmann hate Minnesota?

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at least, when michelle finally flames out, hopefully taking with her several wingnuts, with the force of an imploding star, i'll know there's a role waiting for famke janssen in the inevitable docudrama ...

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17. a. Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions? (Y/N)

Who is supposed to fill that question? For that matter, what question? And if I remember it, it beats the hell out of me, how to answer (decisions, decisions...)

Perhaps the answers are the observations of the person bringing the questionaire. But how does he/she checks walking on stairs or bathing difficulties? Hm. Bathing question can be answered using a smell test. But stairs?

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