Obama Mocks GOPers Who Say Cap And Trade Will Cost $3,000 Per Household
Over the weekend, after the Waxman-Markey climate change bill passed the House by a predictably slim margin, President Obama sat down with some climate and energy reporters to discuss the state of play of energy reform.
Addressing the political risk some Democrats took by voting for the bill, Obama mocked the GOP for perpetuating a myth that should be familiar to readers of TPMDC. "So are there going to be nay-sayers?" Obama asked. "Absolutely."
Are there going to be short-term instances where you can get political gain by scaring the bejesus out of people and telling them that their electricity rates are going to go up a thousand percent and this is going to be a tax of $3,000 -- even though the studies that they cite the authors of say that these guys are just lying about these costs? Yes. Those political talking points will, in some cases, have some short-term impact.
We've been tracking that talking point for the better part of three months now, and it's a resilient one. It's been debunked both by the author of the study on which it's supposedly based, and by the Congressional Budget Office, but you still see it pop up every now and again. It must focus group extremely well!
In the interview, Obama says that the timing of Senate action on climate is up to Harry Reid and the relevant committee chairs--but that he's confident that they'll pass something, go to committee with the House, and send a final bill to his desk.
Timing isn't everything, of course. But it is crucial. Between health care and the appropriations bills and nominations, the Senate has a pretty busy few months ahead of it--and yet, 2010 is an election year, and getting flagship legislation passed in Congress at times like that can be significantly harder.


















I predict he's going to continue to point out that the Republicans voted like it was 1994--he was mocking them for chanting "BTU BTU!" as well.
Republicans: 15 years behind the times.
June 29, 2009 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Noticed that too. The initial buzz (and the Hill's headline) was over him saying he "understood" why 44 Democrats voted against it.
What most struck me, however, was his use of the "L" word. Not too long ago, Democratic politicians would have collapsed into a thumb-sucking fetal crouch at the mere thought of calling them liars merely because they were lying. (That or book a seat with the Republicans on the outrage train.) Now the president does it, and no one even raises an eyebrow.
Of course, the Hill did play "bury the lede" with the story. The story as represented by the MSM is "President understands why some Democrats are afraid to vote for cap and trade." The real story is "President understands that climate of fear and uncertainty created by MSM's uncritical repetition of GOP lies leaves some Democrats too afraid to vote for cap and trade."
June 29, 2009 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Read more carefully. Obama did NOT call the GOOPers liars. He cited someone else who did. But, yes, using the L-word in any context does show a remarkable mitigation of spinelessness.
June 29, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering we have congressional elections every two years ... won't this always be the case? Or the even more difficult "this is an election year".
June 29, 2009 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. It's mindboggling to consider that the concern over getting re-elected (a valid concern, of course, but...) trumps actually doing the work for which one was elected in the first place.
They've probably to until the end of this year, if they're lucky, to get the items on the Obama agenda accomplished. So the actual term for Congress (the House, at least) is one year.
For the President? 2009 and 2011, depending on how the midterm elections turn out.
Crazy.
June 29, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This bill is another give away to Goldman Sachs. Obama/democrats are in the pocket of the big Wall Street firms.
June 29, 2009 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your argument would probably be better received if you explained how you arrived in your conclusion.
June 29, 2009 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see TPMDC still hasn't fixed the little "feature" that limits you to, what, two links in your comment? And if you exceed that, your comment winds up in "Pending for approval by blog owner" which, um, never happens.
So this comment will be in two parts.
Part one.
Karl,
Matt Taibbi makes the same claim in his recent Rolling Stone article. RS hasn't (yet) made the article available online but a number of sites have OCR'd it and posted it. Here is one of them. I think even that is an excerpt; the full article is here.
Details will follow.
July 1, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the Preview function doesn't warn you that you have what MT considers "too many links" in your comment.
Brilliant.
Anyway.
Details, as promised.
Commentary on Taibbi's piece by Felix Salmon at Seeking Alpha:
Taibbi's piece is very long; running 12 pages in print. I'm not going to pretend to evaluate it yet, because I haven't read the whole thing. As Salmon notes, the structure of the piece is to place G-S at the center of four (actually five) speculative bubbles dating back to the Republican Great Depression of the 1930s. As to Goldman and the cap-and-trade bill, Taibbi claims:
Taibbi has a follow-up post, detailing his preparation of the article and specifically his contacts with Goldman, his questions to them, and their responses, here. Taibbi also links to criticism of his piece (from Goldman, again via Felix Salmon via Reuters) and then, of course, responds to the criticism.
July 1, 2009 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink