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Poll: Overwhelming Majority Of Americans Support Public Insurance Option

The New York Times sort of buried this over the weekend, but reform advocates have taken note--a vast majority of Americans favor a major overhaul of the U.S. health care system, including the creation of a government-run public insurance option.

The poll found that most Americans would be willing to pay higher taxes so everyone could have health insurance and that they said the government could do a better job of holding down health-care costs than the private sector....

The national telephone survey, which was conducted from June 12 to 16, found that 72 percent of those questioned supported a government-administered insurance plan -- something like Medicare for those under 65 -- that would compete for customers with private insurers. Twenty percent said they were opposed.

The news has helped to shift the politics back into favorable territory for reformers after a week of bad news had many concerned--however briefly--that the public option was dead in the water. Democrats want a bill ready for President Obama's signature before the August Congressional recess, and the intervening month promises to be full of political whiplash along these lines. More on that in just a bit.


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Interesting...

Listening to the right wing radio last night (I live in Idaho, and programming is somewhat limited), the polls are showing that a MINIMUM number of folks want a government controlled health care system... sorta, kinda, specifically, perhaps... because the Democrats don't know what they're doing and we will all die if it happens... and even if half the nation dies due to lack of care it would be better than allowing the Democrats to win this fight... or something to that effect.

Of course, this is all coming from so called Christian commentators who get all their wisdom directly from God... and reworded by them so us commoners can better understand.

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I'm always bemused by people who claim that any government-run insurance plan will be HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE...and in the very next breath insist that people will flock to it and private insurance won't be able to compete.

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Well, I don't agree that government insurance will be HORRIBLE, etc., but it could make sense if you assume private insurance is so bad that HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE is an improvement.

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I think the meme is that employers, seeking to save costs will stop insuring workers and let them go to government plan.

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Which just moves us closer to single payer, which is where we should be going anyway.

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Companies that do that will still have to pay for health insurance. They will have to pay into the health care "kitty" that will help pay for a public option.

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mans_best_friend correctly points on the "having-it-both-ways" hypocrisy of the opponents to this plan. I don't believe government is always the answer, but if that's true in this case then those private companies have nothing to worry about.

But to the main point: When people in Washington look at something like this and say that 75% of the people are just wrong ... well, my friends, meet Big Brother.

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72% support it without Democrats even trying hard to sell it. Can you imagine what kind of change we might have in this country if Democrats tried to accomplish something instead of using every media opportunity to whine about why they can't accomplish anything?

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But then they might offend the Republicans.

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As a former insurance agent I am pleased to see that people are finally wising up. As a health insurance executive once told me ... we are in the business of collecting premiums, not paying claims. If people knew how many gaps and limits there are in their coverage they would be amazed. The sad part is they never find out until they have a large claim.

Making our healthcare system a profit-driven has always been plain stupid. All the incentives are wrong. What's sad to see is that just like the Republicans, the Democrats are obviously in the pockets of big insurance.

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The Blue Dogs seem to think that they can side with the insurance companies and that will buy them re-election. That may have worked in the past, but I wouldn't count on it anymore.

Pick a constituency, Baucus. The insurance companies or the people. You don't get to have both. You keep working for the insurance companies and you'll be available to go work for them full time pretty soon.

Public financing of campaigns is long overdue. I'm so sick of these smug establishment Democrats who think they can flip off the voters and somehow just buy their way into re-election.

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The repu.glicans don't want single payer because they claim the government will be running it and make matters worst. Yet, from what I hear on the internet, repu.glicans want to make it mandatory everyone to have insurance thru a private insurer. Pardon me, but that looks like the government is actively forcing people into contracts that may not be in their best interest. People won't have the opportunity to search for the best policy with premiums within their budgets that affords them the best health care coverage. You could end up with one that costs so much you bare have enough to make the premium payments, but not enough disposable cash to actually go to a doctor unless you float some other bill, such as your mortgage.

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I like your choice of nom de net, since that is indeed the guy who started this for-profit healthcare debacle. Not the smallest of his many sins.

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What a Dick.

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If there was ever a clearer explanation of how money runs politics in this country, I haven't seen it.

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Hey, you got sumpin' agin the sacred principle of "one dollar, one vote"? Commie!

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You cynic! Do you really think they'd sell their votes for a lousy dollar? Why, the cheapest of them would demand a couple of thousand.

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You cynic! Do you really think they'd sell their votes for a lousy dollar? Why, the cheapest of them would demand a couple of thousand.

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What a useless poll. They should have focussed their polling on lobbyists, insurence company execs, and corporate media pundits.

What's the point of finding out what the peasants think?

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I've taken a lot of flack on a lot of blogs for saying this, but here goes again:

We hold the key to solving this problem. All we have to do is STOP GIVING THE INSURERS OUR MONEY. But, but, but you say...what if I get sick during the 3 - 6 months it would take to put the insurers out of business? Well, at the current rate of medical bankruptcies, each of us has a better than 1 in 10 chance of going bankrupt over medical expenses sometime during our lives anyway - and that's WITH insurance. If you can live with those odds every day of your life, you think you can't live with the risk of being uninsured for a few months?

Let me elaborate on this point by point: We could burn the mother to the ground if just 20 or 30 million people stopped paying their premiums. Now, out of the 100 million or so of us in the labor force with employer-provided health insurance, at least half of us are healthy with no known chronic health condition. And we can relatively easily get back on our employer's plan if we fail to kill the insurers. So the folks with highest risk - those who need their insurance to help defray costs of medicine, etc - don't drop coverage. You'll be helping out by costing the insurers more while the low risks flee the pool. Those with private policies who might have a hard time getting re-instated, keep your insurance. Let those of us with the lowest risk carry the ball.

Second, I doubt we'd ever have to spend a single DAY uninsured. I think it would work like this: in the week where the insurers and congress get hit with the millions and millions of letters notifying them that if we don't have a public option signed into law by X date we are dropping our insurance...who do you think will be the first ones on the phone to their congressional representatives? The health insurers, of course. Except they'll be DEMANDING action on passing a public option so they at least have the chance to stay in business. Suppose you are a member of congress - are YOU going to stand idly by while 20% of the US economy burns to the ground in an act of arson that you knew was coming - during the worst recession in 70 years? What do you think that will do the unemployment rolls? What do you think it will do to your chances for re-election? Think ANY constiuent who went without coverage for even a day will be voting for you?

People in this country more often than not DISGUST me with their "me me me-ism" and the way they allow fear to rule their every action. How do you think we got here in the first place? Because everyone is so worried that they'll get sick and lose everything that they'll overlook the fact that 15% of their fellow citizens can get no treatment at all, they'll overlook that insurance hasn't saved their fellow citizens from financial ruin, they'll overlook that the health insurers have made them their bitches, and they'll just keep on paying those premiums and co-pays and deductibles at a higher and higher rate while crossing their fingers and hoping that when their time comes, their insurer will pay the bills.

I see people in Iran marching in the streets because they're fed up and willing to risk being SHOT rather than continue to take abuse...and then I look at my fellow citizens whining about how they might lose their STUFF if they dare to tell the insurers to shove it, and I feel total DISGUST.

We've got the health care system that a bunch of lazy self-absorbed people deserve; if we want a better one, we're going to have to deserve it. No pain, no gain.

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Jenn, I don't know why you'd catch any flack, I think it's a great idea. It's just hard to convince people that the "coverage" they have really doesn't cover all that much and that they can be dropped like a bad habit by their insurer for pretty much any reason.
We really do get the health care we deserve in this country, and we'll get the congress and President Palin we deserve as well soon enough if the Democrats don't do what they were elected to do. Nothing will give me more pleasure than to watch Democrats who are such transparent whores for the insurance and pharma industries go down in flames. And I won't vote to re-elect a President who is so willing to sacrifice what's right and good in the name of "bipartisanship".
Tom Daschle already caved on the public option, what a shame he couldn't be at HHS right now.

Democrats should be on a major offensive right now with all the facts on their side. Instead its the same old letting Repubs frame the debate and caving to their every demand in an attempt to reach a compromise with people who have no intention of compromising on anything.

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Many of the Dems are just as bad as the Repubs, not many of them have the guts to cut the umbilical cord of campaign funds from the insurers.

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I think that it's not so much their reliance on campaign funds from the industry, but rather their cowardice re making mistakes. The Blue Dogs, like the majority of their associates in the Senate (especially), are extremely risk averse. They are afraid that if they make a bad decision (one which results in a shrinking economy or in this case poorer coverage), they will lose their jobs.
I believe that we have somehow created a monster where our political class consist primarily of a flock of risk averse managers with very little political courage and zero leadership qualities. For me this is the real problem. I also find it interesting that there are more cowards in the senate than in the house, where the time between elections is much shorter. Perhaps this is one of those unintended consequences from the founding fathers.

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The reporting needs to focus on the money trail. The money given to Senators directly corresponds to how they will be voting. The Public Option means that health insurance money dries up; thus hurting their campaign coffers. Another interesting twist here is that the GOP welcomes the so called protection we must give the health insurance industry because they cannot compete with a public option. What the hell happened here with free enterprise if they can not survive competition from the public sector?

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There appears to be a growing number of disgruntled bloggers who are bemoaning that the Change that they voted for in the 08 election has not come. Ok, I get that.

BUT, what next...Do you think that just because you voted that your job is done? Change will only come when you continue to demand that your legislators follow-up on their committments made during their campaign.

If the public becomes complacent, then the opposition to CHANGE will win...so we need to see that we mandated the first step up the steep hill of change, - 08 Election, but we need to continue to speak to our elected officials to get to the top of the mountain.

Most elected officials like the status quo, because it is easier than CHANGE. Most elected officials are reluctant to CHANGE because they are afraid they may be in conflict with their financial supporters. But it is WE who elected them and WE must demand them to do the job WE elected them to do.

The only Polls that elected officials are concerned with are their own, so a "national poll result" will not affect them, only their constituents concern them, so WE need to continuously remind them that there are consequences for failing to do what WE elected them to do.

So we must remain active and vigilent...blogging is great, but if your legislator does not hear from you directly, they will do only enough to placate their electorate and cater to those who pay for their elections: big business / lobbying groups / PACs.

We elected a new President, but one person cannot do it alone, everyone needs to press for Change by continually contacting your legislator to act on your behalf.

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Well said. The forces opposing change are formidable indeed and will stop at nothing. This is going to be a hard fight, and it's a long way from over.

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72% favor a public option....

And The Other 28% Watch FOX!

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I just got to listen to one of my Senators in KUOW (yes, Maria Cantwell, I'm talking about you) give us a bunch of excuses about why they couldn't get a true public option through the Senate (it seems there no support for it ....) and how the co-operatives are just wonderful.

I don't think they're listening.

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Do you guys really believe that 72% of a correctly weighted sample of 900 Americans would favor a gov healthcare plan?

If this were really true, wouldn't blue dogs be standing up to entrenched interests a little more? If only out of self-preservation. Trust this: no one in power believes this poll and for good reason: the NYT poll constantly oversamples urbanites and Dems. Politicians who have to actually run for re-election are well-aware of this track record.

Over confidence of proponents is enemy numero uno for reform of our healthcare system. Taking this seriously flawed poll as a true measure of national opinion is sure to turn into a "whistling past the graveyard" excercise.

The only way reform has any chance IMHO, is for team reform to play like they are behind all the way to the final buzzer. Even then, reform is a 10-point dog.

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The Blue Dogs ARE the entrenched interests.

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LOL kinda got me there...

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Does the WSJ/NBC poll, which came out a few days earlier and found 76% in support of a public option, also oversample urbanites and Dems? And, what, exactly, is your evidence that the NYT/CBS poll oversamples urbanites and Ds? How do you account for the fact that in the NYT/CBS poll, even 50% of Republicans supported a public option?

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Except, Radical Square, that other polls have independently confirmed these numbers. I'll bet Nate Silver has some comment on it at 538.com.

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Except, Radical Square, that other polls have independently confirmed these numbers. I'll bet Nate Silver has some comment on it at 538.com.

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thanks for the tip Zues interesting stuff over there.

Here is a link to the page that discusses the recent health care reform polling: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public-support-for-public-option.html

Nothing there reduces my skepticism about the NYT poll. But it sure is interesting the different responses gained through differing approaches to describing the issue, framing the questions and wording response choices.

I would just add this: when the argument really heats up (i.e. republicans have a plan in black and white to pick apart) many more people will be exposed to formulations of the issue presented by republicans, Ins Corps and other opponents and support is likely to fall not increase.

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Now listen up you 72% who support a public option;

In the words of that model of integrity, ex Congressman Ozzie Meyers, "Money talks and bullshit walks." So unless you want to ante up more than those who are making gazillions on the status quo....take a walk!

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My Congressman called a "town meeting" Saturday and when pressed about a single payor option, without any preamble, he refered to it as "a non-starter." The overflow audience was not amused. The "town meeting" turned ugly, and those of us who attended don't have a lot of hope that logic or 70+% public wish for something close to a public program will ever survive the oxen which might be gored - insurers, drug companies, and congressional re-election coffers. As they always say,"Follow the money". (Oh, and please explain to all the simpletons you meet that by supporting public programs, we're not advocating "socialized medicine")

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This is why we'd be better off to just set a cancellation date on our policies and write letters letting them know when the bomb is going to go off. Bet that "non-starter" would be on the table right quick if the insurers started seeing extermination in their immediate future.

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Part of my job is to deal with health care companies and discuss what the benefit package that employees where I work will receive.

Pretty much since 2001, it has been cut backs or employees pay more out of their paycheck (which is, in my opinion, a tax), more co-pays and a bigger out of pocket deductible.

So, employees are paying more and in some cases, getting less. What isn't being reduced is the profits of the health care industry.

We should all have single payer or a public option that truly makes the private sector compete. Because in all my dealings, one thing is sure, the private sector is not competing and has basically rigged the system in which we will continue to receive less health care or pay a lot more to continue receiving it as long as the Healthcare Industrial Complex continues to make their $$$.

This greed is short-sighted, however, because eventually, the middle class will be gone and the poor can't pay and the rich will go to Canada or Europe to get medical care. So, the whole greedy system will collapse on itself if they don't change.

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