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Tea Party Group Co-Opts Communist Symbol

FreedomWorks, the conservative organization that had a big hand in the Tea Party rallies this past April, is gearing up for a new "Taxpayer March On Washington" for September 12 -- with a very interesting logo.

The intriguing thing here, as Ron Gunzburger pointed out, is that the logo makes use of left-handed fists, colored in red -- a traditional symbol all around the world for communism and militant socialism.

In an interview with TPM, FreedomWorks press secretary Adam Brandon said the group is aware of this symbol's traditional meaning. "Well, when you start working here at FreedomWorks, the first book you read is Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. We're avid students of the political left," he said. "I've spent years living in Eastern Europe. I'm aware of of it, but I guess the symbolism we're going for is angry taxpayers as a group. So I guess the symbolism is kind of fun."

If anything, the Tea Parties and similar events are efforts to tap into the energy of the left. "I've gone to a number of left rallies, and they tend to be fun," said Brandon. "People go out protesting, and spend some time with some like-minded folks, and we're looking to do that on our side."


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I am tired of these Communistic Wingers.

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Yeah, but I want them to keep doing stupid things. Helps illuminate the path for Independents!

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Shine that light!

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Tea Baggers are now into Fisting!

Heck yeah!

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What's the significance of Sept. 12?

And isn't it sort of embarassing that he basically admitted that wing nut rallies aren't all that fun?

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Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project, remember?

http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/03/24/mission-statement/

*not sure if that's the official site (don't really care) but it should provide some info.

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Thanks.

The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

He's a sick freak.

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Actually, I like his idea. On 9/12/01, almost the entire country was united behind the President and the opposition party was scared shitless of criticizing the party in power. I wouldn't mind some of that today.

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HA, nice.

Yeah, but the problem is that Beck assumes that on 9/12/2001 we were all united under some right wing ideal. We may have all tacitly agreed on 9/12/2001 that we wanted Bin Laden caught (that hasn't changed) but that's perhaps the only thing we really agreed on.

What does Glenn Beck think, that we're all gonna suddenly drop partisan differences. . . to follow his particular partisan view?

His 9 Principles and 12 values are so vague as to be useless-- and most of them are neither conservative nor liberal ("If You break the law you pay the penalty." Duh.) As they are worded most liberals wouldn't disagree with them, but Beck is implying something with each one, for example Principle #7 is a thinly veiled anti-welfare statement, and #6 is a similarly obscured anti-affirmative-action idea, and if you didn't know the source you wouldn't necessarily know the implication. It's ham-fisted sleigh-of-hand: if Beck asks someone principle #2 "(do you) believe in God and He is the Center of (your) Life?" A muslim can honestly answer yes. . . but that's not what Beck (the man who automatically assumes any muslim is a terrorist) was implying.

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Yeah, because the 9-11 inspired group think led to so many great and positive things in this country.

How much of what Beck rails against came as a direct result of the "9-12" style of thinking? (only somewhat rhetorical, if anyone pays enough attention to him to answer, I'd love to hear it)

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Check out their site.

http://912dc.org/

Look at some of the co-sponsers.

Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights

FreeRepublic

The Club for Growth

Should be quite the crowd.

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The lefty rallies are fun because we are not a bunch of hateful assholes with bankrupt ideas...

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The lefty rallies are fun

And you can get laid--try that at a Glenn Beck Bag-In

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Oh woe is the poor downtrodden oppressed unwashed masses of capitalists not wanting to pay their fair share. We must unite in solidarity so they can continue to have their offshore tax havens!!!

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HA! My laugh for the morning!

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First tea bagging, now fisting. These right wing freaks are hardcore.

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Interesting thing--I got a robo-call at home a few days ago. The message began, "are you aware of the tea-bagging movement sweeping the country?" I didn't stay on the line long enough to hear the rest of it (I was expecting a real phone call). I was surprised--I thought the wingers had dropped the "tea-bagging" line.

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Clever

But I am not fooled. It's all part of the Socialist Obama's plot to establish the Caliphate.

Even the teabaggers are pawns in his nefarious game

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Hmm. First "Tea Bagging" then 2M4M, and now "Fisting"...

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Can hamsters be far off?

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Ooooh! I just knew somebody was going to bring them up. Just remember the duct tape.

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hamsters

That would be gerbils, I believe.(Anyway, that's what I have heard....not that there's anything intrinisically wrong with that...except from the gerbil's perspective...

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Gracious. I didn't even catch all the innuendo which is such a part of conservative mottos. Maybe if they just heed Andrew Sullivan's exhortation to come out of the closet they'll feel better about things in general.

But I admit, Schmedley: I don't get the hamster reference.

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and please don't ask him to explain it in this public venue!!!

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too late.

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A variation on the gerbilling urban legend. I went with hamster because the bigger the assholes, the bigger the animals.

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You might not really want to know. Has to do with an urban legend about gerbils actually (not hamsters) and Richard Gere gay rumors about insertion of said creatures into the rectum.

Like I said, you may not want to know really, but for a full gist, Google: "Richard Gere, urban, legend, gerbil" for the urban legend debunking.

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Really? Google: Richard Gere gerbil

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To all who provided links: thanks for the education into gerbilling. The deep and varied knowledge of TPMDC readers is what keeps me coming back to TPMDC.

EWWWWWWWWWWWW.

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Well, my cats like gerbils....

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No doubt! I'm getting all excited. Maybe I should quit this Progressive thing and become a "conservative" so I can get in on some of that hot fist bagging action or whatever...

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the comment about teabaggers reading Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" and being avid students of the political left," causes this thought to occur...and this thought has occurred more than once in the past few weeks as i watch the radicalization of the republican party, or it's right wing anyway...


i'm not sure you want to emulate the radical left... some would say, after a certain point, the radicalization of the left destroyed the effectiveness of the left for years. ...whatever history says, and this is a dilemma every advocacy group faces, but i can say personally, when you get to a point that you become fanatical about anything, ANYTHING... people leave. people leave fast, through any available exit... not because they aren't as you perceive, 'pure' enough, committed enough or, outraged enough, it's because you have become an insufferable, obsessed, maniac.
it doesn't matter who you are or what side you are on or what your issue is or what party you belong to.
mabe you will surround your self with an ever shringking group of fanatics, but the road leads to your own ruin and decreases your effectiveness exponentially. take it from a lefty. so yah, read the book, take up the logo, have fun, feel the power. (rolling eyes)

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Yep - left the local SDS chapter when when it was moved that we vote on whether or not to vote on taking a vote.

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Reminds me of the "People's Judean Front" bit from "Life of Brian". Or the drafting of the "Resolution to Save Brian" from the same movie.

Of course, in that movie the Pythons were having as much fun lampooning the extreme left as they were the religious nutcases on the far right.

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People's Judean Front

SPLITTER!

The People United for Judean Liberation will eat your lunch!

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The amount and degree of self-loathing cognitive dissonance in what remains of the self-so-called 'conservative republicans' begs the question if progressive liberal democratic government isn't a threat to a large minority of the population's mental health.

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On 9/12/09, Obama will have officially 'kept us safe from terrorism' longer than Bush did.

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There's a bad mood on the Right. Still time for the next Tim McVeigh to strike.

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There's a bad mood on the Right. Old CCR song, no?

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Grover Norquist was into Soviet propaganda. Maybe it's conservative "minds" thinking alike.

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"The intriguing thing here, as Ron Gunzburger pointed out, is that the logo makes use of left-handed fists, colored in red -- a traditional symbol all around the world for communism and militant socialism."

But as we now know from the Conservative reaction to the Holocaust Memorial shootings, right-wing radicalism IS leftist. So, um, I guess that means Conservative activists are leftists too! I think. So that makes this logo appropriate because... I guess... this movement is a leftwing Conservative movement representing rightwing leftwing activism. I think. Or something.

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Well, I just wish they would flap both wings and fly away!!

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Does that mean we've already arrived back at 9/12, where the left-wing is the left wing, and the right-wing is the left wing too? Rally called off, then!

Seriously, the right's use of the upraised fist is based on two thoughts.
First, Americans know it as an icon of angry solidarity against the government, which is what the far right is working to foment, all day every day.

And two, they know their base hasn't got a clue about anything that doesn't happen within 50 miles of their house. They'll be safely ignorant of the iconography involved. Hell, they won't get the 'style' reference back to the USSR, much less the left-handed fist stuff...

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I wonder what happened to "better dead than red?"

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I honestly do think my Tea Bagger logo is tons better.

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Sad. I don't think many people have read "Rules for Radicals" or they would have understood the reference. One of the 14 rules is that your people have to have fun at your events, otherwise the movement will lose steam.

Seriously, I get the sense that few people have read Alinsky and thus few understand what he was about. Some tend to paint him with the same brush as Abbie Hoffman or the Weathermen -- that is lumping him in with other 60s radicals that we have vaguely heard about.

But what he did, and what his basic message was about, are as applicable to today as it was back then. He was a creative pragmatist, who tried to find ways to incrementally improve the system. He was tactically oriented, as his book demonstrates. He was forward thinking -- one of his rules is that you have to always refresh your tactics because the other side is always adapting.

He was non-idealistic -- one of his rules was that "People do the right things for the wrong reasons" -- meaning, don't get hung up on whether your opposition actually buys into the principle of equal rights, the key thing is to get them to grant the concessions you want. Incremental progress. (The particular example he used for this one was having black people picket the house of white slum lords in the 1960s. The slum lords were more likely to give in to their demands due to pressure from their white neighbors who were alarmed at the sight of groups of black picketers, not because they agreed with what the protesters were protesting.)

The idea of having fun was one of his key tenets. Indeed, there is great humor throughout the book. One of the best examples is the proposed "shit-in" at O'Hare, in which the protesters would occupy all the stalls (then all pay-toilets) for an entire day, legally preventing passengers from using the toilets. (This was an illustration of his rule "The threat of an action is usually worse than the action itself", and in this case the Daley authorities they were fighting with begged them to come back to the negotiating table instead of conducting the shit-in.)

Ironically, it was the religious right that learned more from Alinsky starting with the Moral Majority in the late 1970s and continuing through the 80s. They usually disguised his teachings as their own, but the principles are the same.

So, what this teabagger is saying is that he's employing Alinsky tactics in a creative way to energize his movement. Frankly, this is the first sensible thing I've heard from that movement since they began.

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