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Baucus Freezing Out Democrats, Coddling Republicans?

Roll Call is up with an interesting piece about increasing Democratic frustration with the glacial pace of Sen. Max Baucus' bipartisan health care negotiations in the Senate Finance Committee. Interestingly, though, it seems as if one of the chief sources of irritation is a disparity in access--namely, that senior Democrats are being frozen out, while senior Republicans are completely keyed in.

[T]he level of consultation with Democrats stands in contrast with how Republican negotiators are briefing their Members. Senators said Enzi, who is the ranking member on the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, briefs leaders every day on the talks. And all three of the GOP negotiators have agreed to brief the entire GOP Conference before they sign on to any deal with Baucus.

But Democrats said Baucus is unlikely to run any deal by his caucus before he shakes hands on an agreement with Republicans.

Also troubling Democrats: the growing realization among some that Baucus may simply be trying to run out the clock.


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Paging Harry Reid's spine. If you're still around somewhere, please report to Harry immediately.

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'splain please: how would Reid's spine make a difference here?

Baucus is the chair. Reid can't make him "negotiate faster" or "behave."

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He can start by calling out Baucus publicly. This is a no-lose proposition now that it's clear that Baucus means to betray his own caucus and throw a monkey wrench into the works. And if enough other Democrats become sufficiently pissed at Baucus's behavior, why yes there could be a plausible threat of removing him from his chairmanship.

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He can also call Baucus into his office every afternoon for a briefing on what's happening. I know there's "seniority" and all, but can't the entire Democratic caucus strip chairmanships etc?

There has got to be some way to made him behave.

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Baucus has proved that he is an ineffective chairman. Reid should strip him of his chairmanship at the next opportunity. If Ted Kennedy was the chairman of this committee do you think he would be screwing the President and the rest of the Democrats right now. Doubt it.

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Reid does not have the authority to strip Baucus.

NEXT!

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Hmm.... seems there was lots of talk of stripping Leiberman of his committee assignments after he blatantly tried to screw the President and the Party. I would like to know how this works. Anyone sufficiently informed?

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With Lieberman, the entire caucus had to vote on whether to strip him. Reid couldn't do it alone.

Besides, Lieberman had openly campaigned against Obama and other Democrats and attended the Repug convention.

Baucus is just spineless and ineffective. If that's cause for removal, Reid would be first in line.

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Reid's spine has long been MIA. In reality, of course, he's simply serving the interests of his base -- the corporations who got him elected and keep him there, and who will provide him a cushy 7-figure K Street job with a luxurious pension should he ever leave office.

As agio noted in another TPMDC thread ("Pelosi Wants A Health Care Bill By August, But First, All Eyes On Senate") -- sorry agio, I'd link your comment but TPMDC still has this ridiculous "policy" of choking on more than two links in a comment:

I'm not sure who's the Charlie Brown and who's the Lucy.

Career total contributions from businesses in the health sector:

Harry Reid: $1,574,351
Max Baucus: $1,739,049

(Not including lobbyist money.)

And as I mentioned in that thread. Steve Benen's comments from July 19 are both relevant to this discussion and accurate. And they serve as a valuable history lesson for those here who continually sing the praises of "centrist" Dems, or defend Reid, or otherwise make excuses for the party leadership's failure to move an agenda that favor ordinary people over industry lobbyists, even a little.

He begins by describing how Clinton's failed health reform went down in 1993-94, where Bill Kristol (yeah, that Bill Kristol) advised Republicans to do whatever they could to kill the proposal -- not because it was bad policy, but because "passage would help the Democratic Party for years to come". They succeeded. And "centrist" Democrats helped them. We know the results. Benen quotes Yglesias: "The result of that failure was not only substantively bad, but politically disastrous for Democrats."

Benen also quotes Prof. Mark Kleiman, who wrote in the blog post Benen linked to: "In 1993, Democratic 'centrists' on Capitol Hill helped defeat Hillarycare, believing that their power was unshakable and would be increased by teaching the new President a lesson about who was boss. The Gingrich Revolution was condign punishment for them, though what the rest of us did to deserve it I don't know." (Link at Benen's post. As noted, TPMDC still helpfully chokes on more than two links in a comment.)

Sixteen years later, Benen notes, the same game is playing out. But, he wonders, do the Liebermans, Baucuses, Conrads, Blue Dogs, and Reids simply not remember 1994? Or did they actually prefer that outcome?

Republicans don't want to reform the health care system and don't want President Obama to be the president who finally delivers the overhaul Americans have been waiting for over the last several decades. The GOP has every possible reason to see this initiative fail, but that hasn't stopped some Democrats from a) insisting that Republican support for a reform effort they oppose is paramount; and b) making it easier to see their own party's efforts fail.

It occurs to me, then, that there's at least a possibility that "centrist" Democrats -- Blue Dogs, New Democrats, Lieberman, et al -- might not see failure as such a horrible option here. In other words, they may realize that coming up short on health care, letting this opportunity slip away, and hurting millions of Americans in the process may be devastating for the Democratic majority, but these same "centrist" Democrats may prefer a smaller majority, or perhaps even a GOP majority to "balance" the Democratic president. They may very well disagree with the party's leadership on most issues, and think the best course of action is taking away their power by undermining the party's agenda.

It seems odd that these "centrist" Democrats would forget the lessons of 1993 and 1994. But alternatively, are we sure they have forgotten those lessons, or have they learned those lessons all too well?

His whole post is worth a read, including the linked comments of Yglesias and Kleiman.

Remember that, next time someone pops up around here praising "centrist" Dems, and claiming that they're actually good for the party. Remember where these guys' campaign contributions come from. Remember that, next time someone blames Democratic losses -- whether past or future -- on the party's left flank.

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Interesting point, but I'm not sure if the moderate/conservative Democrats would want Repulblicans to gain a majority or even a few seats, since the seats that would change hands would be their own. Most of these people vote with their party at least 80% of the time. The chronic DINOs mostly only come from insanely Republican districts and are members who have recently been elected and thus don't have the advantages of incumbency and possibly gerrymandering to give them safer seats.

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Your description certainly doesn't characterize Baucus (Senator for 31 years, house for 3 years prior to that) or Conrad (Senator for 22 years), for example. I think a lot of these folks have been in office longer than you might think. In any event, I'm less and less convinced that these folks are all that concerned with re-election. Sure, it's nice, and they'll fight for it, but ultimately, with the Capitol Hill - K Street revolving door, these folks know that cushy seven-figure K Street lobbying gigs await them should they ever leave office, whether by their own choice or not.

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Sen. Reid you need to be replaced for failing to drive the President's agenda. There is no execuse for this. Do the people's work and remove Baucus or yourself from positions of leadership if you do not meet your deadline!

DNC: Are you listening to the people?

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This is an odd take on "bipartisanship" dontcha think?

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I think we need to go after Baucus and all the spineless Democrats -- as well as the Repugnuts -- with the line of attack Steve Pearlstein gave yesterday morning and President Obama gave last night. If you're for delay or doing nothing, you're on record in favor of doubling health care costs over the next ten years, causing tens of millions more Americans to lose their health coverage, and driving millions more Americans into bankruptcy.

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.25 of every $1 this guy raises comes from the Health Insurance Industry.

Of course he's trying to run out the clock. United Healthcare posted profits 155% above last years'. They don't see a problem with the current system, and neither does their butt-boy Baucus.

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I truss him about as far as I could throw Ben Nelson

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I trust him about as far as I could throw Rush Limbaugh.

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I've kow that about Baucus for some time. Ad Mike Ross.
The DailyKos has more info on this storyhttp://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/23/756633/-Report:-Baucus-Drawing-Outrage-in-Dem-Caucus..

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Word from Firedoglake.com is that Baucus has reached a deal with Enzi and Snowe that will not include a public plan, which could pass in the next couple days. It will include John Kerry's plan to tax insurance companies on their most expensive plans (those valued at over $25,000 a year).

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/23/baucus-snow-enzi-bipartisan-deal-close-in-finance-committee/#comments

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Here's hoping this report is correct. All we need at this stage of the game is to get SOMETHING out of that committee.

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You're suggesting the public option can be added back in as a floor amendment? Much better to have it come out of committee.

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This would seem to make some sense. Since they really are all holed up together then the assumption has to be that they are finding agreement. And since the Rs are not going to go along with a public plan, it's hard to imagine that agreement containing one. The question is, how does this meet the objective of universal coverage if there is no public plan?

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Once the bill passes from the Finance Committee can't the Senate put a public option into the final Senate version when they reconcile all the committee bills together?

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I think Baucus needs to be threatened in some way if he wants to delay here.

Maybe move Yucca Mt to Mt?

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Baucus has to go to the bathroom sometime. All the other Dems need to get together on a plan, and when Baucus steps away, the second Dem on the panel can bring it to a vote and get it out of committee pronto.

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Baucus has to go to the bathroom sometime. All the other Dems need to get together on a plan, and when Baucus steps away, the second Dem on the panel can bring it to a vote and get it out of committee pronto.

Or just forget about his committee and vote it out of some other committee. Get on board or get out of the way, or he'll be run over by the train.

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Max is doing his job representing the insurance corporations who pay him. He will never understand why the 'little people' who do not pay him anything should have any say so over his committee and their bipartisan protection of the insurance racket.

I think Harry should take away Max's committee chairmanship as payback for fucking over the President and the Democratic Party.

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NPR finally doing the journalism:

Who Has Access To Max Baucus?
by Andrea Seabrook and Peter Overby
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106655060&ft=1&f=1012

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About friggin time. Not that this is all that common on NPR (and even less so in the rest of the broadcast media), or that it will measurably affect Baucus. Nor do I hold out much hope that NPR will continue to follow this or similar stories up.

But many many thanks for the link. The story deserves quoting (few people will follow the link):

Paul Blumenthal, a writer for the nonpartisan watchdog the Sunlight Foundation, mapped Baucus' network of influence. (You can see the "Baucus influence map" at left).

"We have Max Baucus, who represents a single node, as the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee," Blumenthal explains. On his computer screen, lines radiate from Baucus to five of his former Senate staffers. Two of them served as chief of staff to Baucus, the top job in his Senate office.

All five now lobby Congress for various interests. Among their clients: drugmakers Wyeth, Merck, Amgen and AstraZeneca, plus the third-largest corporation in the world, Wal-Mart.

"In Washington, relationships are part of the huge game of influence," Blumenthal says. "If you don't have a relationship with someone on the Hill, then you aren't going to have the kind of access that you need for your client." And so, he says, these lobbyists — and their clients — have a unique brand of access to one man at the center of the health-care debate.

Backing up the access is money — and that puts Baucus at the heart of Congress' ethical conflict.

Baucus And Fundraising

Lawmakers have two constituencies: one, the voters back home; the other, the people and interests that finance much of their re-election campaigns. These donors often live out of state.

When Baucus ran for his sixth term last year, his campaign raised $11.6 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Nearly half of the funds came from out-of-state donors, including millions from health care and other industries overseen by Finance and Baucus' other committees.

Just 13 percent of Baucus' re-election funds came from Montana donors.

The whole story is worth a listen or a read, or both. Audio stream and download available at the link you posted; note that the audio is different from the text on the site. The story does a pretty good job of exposing Baucus's rank corruption. And Baucus is by no means alone. Reid noted, Reid has received almost as much from Big Pharma, Big Insurance and Big Medical as has Baucus. Doubtless other Dem senators are members of that august club as well.

On Reid: well, he's all about the money. The linked Las Vegas Review-Journal article says that the [cough] $25 MILLION war chest Reid will have amassed by next year serves as a deterrent to Republicans who want to get into the race.

If he were to spend it all, it would certainly be the most money ever spent on a state election. But spending it isn't the point, analysts say. The point is to intimidate.

It equally serves to deter any Democrat who even thinks about mounting a serious primary challenge against him, in hopes that Nevadans could actually elect someone to represent them rather than his corporate masters. (BTW, that $25M figure represents $11,400 in contributions, per day, every single day of Reid's term in office, weekends and holidays included.)

In an interview a couple of weeks ago, Reid said he thought his campaign was going fine. Asked what campaign-related activities he was doing, the senator smiled.

"Everything I do in the last five years has been campaign-related," he said. "That's what my life is about."

Well, now we know where some of that money is coming from. It ain't you and me.

Or as the NPR story concluded:

So as Baucus and other lawmakers attempt to craft a bill that can smash through a virtual gridlock of interests, the awkward question lingers: To whom are they more attentive — their voting constituencies back home or the dollar constituencies who are at the Capitol every day?

I think we know the answer to that question.

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Sunlight Foundation: Visualizing The Health Care Lobbyist Complex.

This is the post "as featured on NPR's All Things Considered." Discussion and "influence map" graphics. The post summarizes and links to previous Sunlight posts:

1.) The Max Baucus Health Care Lobbyist Complex
2.) Senate Finance Committee Health Care Influence Cluster: The Democrats
3.) Senate Finance Committee Health Care Influence Cluster: The Republicans

For item 2:

Last week, I took a look at the circle of former staffers turned health care lobbyists that surround Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus. The Senate Finance Committee is one of the two central committees in the Senate charged with formulating health care reform legislation. Knowing the connections to the health care lobby of all committee members provides us with a glimpse into whom may have access to shape the forthcoming legislation. In continuing with mapping Baucus’ connections, below you’ll find a map of all the committee Democrats and their connections, through former staffers turned health care lobbyists, to various health care lobbies:

[map and link are here in original --g]

The map shows only ten of the thirteen committee Democrats, as OpenSecrets.org does not report any staffers turned health care lobbyists for Sens. Jay Rockefeller, Jeff Bingaman or Bill Nelson. These ten Democrats are connected to a total of 20 former staffers turned health care lobbyists. Sen. Baucus leads all of the committee Democrats with five health care lobbyist connections and Sen. Chuck Schumer and Tom Carper both have three connections....

The organizations represented by these 20 health care lobbyists include some of the biggest opponents to center piece of President Obama’s health care plan: the public option. These include the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association, PhRMA, and various pharmaceutical, medical device and insurance companies. The Senate Finance Committee is seen as the biggest obstacle to the public option.

They also show contributions to each member of the committee from the insurance sector and the "health" (cough) sector, for 2008 and over their careers.

The page is also the central location for future updates, research and visualizations. Stay tuned.

These folks -- Sunlight Foundation, Open Congress, MapLight.org, and OpenSecrets.org/Center for Responsive Politics -- are doing God's work and the people's business.

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Reid is beyond useless and I am convinced Baucus is simply corrupt. There really is no explaination. That the Republican leadership almost certainly know what Baucus is willing to agree to yet he refuses to tell the Democratic leadership really should lead to him being stripped of his chairmenship in the next Congress.

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Isn't there some decent Democrat somewhere in Montana willing to step up and primary this sumbitch? If an opponent, even a few years out, set up a campaign account we could vote against Mad Max now with a fistful of modest donations. I'll promise to kick in a Benjamin; who's with me?

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The problem with primarying Baucus is the same problem as primarying Reid: Both they have too much money. In the words of that LVRJ article: "If he were to spend it all, it would certainly be the most money ever spent on a state election. But spending it isn't the point, analysts say. The point is to intimidate."

Their corporate masters will do everything they can to make sure that the Reids and Baucuses of the world represent them, not us.

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Unfortunately, Max Baucus was just reelected to a sixth term last November, so we are stuck with him for another 5 1/2 years. He could be replaced as Finance Committee Chairman before then though. Not sure if his Dem. colleagues would do that though.

Does anyone know if the Democratic caucus can vote to remove someone as Chairman in the middle of the two year session, or if we have to wait until 2011? Maybe some sort of grassroots movement to replace himin that position could get started soon...

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It's highly unlikely that the Old White Boys Club would remotely consider such a thing. After Lieberman actively campaigned for the Republican Presidential candidate in 2008 and actively smeared the Democratic Presidential candidate, he barely got a slap on the wrist from his Senate colleagues in the majority, and he kept his committee chair assignment. And, technically, he's no longer even a Democrat.

Baucus (and Reid) haven't done anything remotely like that. They're doing the business of the dominant corporate wing of the Democratic Party. That's just part of the game. It's what most of them do.

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