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Busby Campaign, Supporters And Allies Publicly Mobilize Against Sheriff's Raid

Democratic Congressional candidate Francine Busby (CA-50) and her allies have been embarking on an extensive public relations campaign in the wake of a raid on a campaign house party by the San Diego Sheriff's Department -- due to a noise complaint that is believed to have come from a person who heckled the event -- which ended in multiple people being pepper-sprayed and the full complement of deputies, including a dog unit and helicopter, coming in to arrest one of the hostesses and a guest.

On Monday, three of the women held a press conference, blasting the arresting officer, Deputy Marshall G. Abbott. "He had a raged look in his eyes and his head was bobbing from side to side," said Kimberley Beatty, who said that she had called 911 to report that he "appeared to be out of control."

And last night, the San Diego ACLU put out a press release, which was forwarded to us by Busby herself, lambasting the Sheriff's Department for all manner of improper behavior here, and calling for greater transparency as the process of investigating this whole mess goes forward. The opening paragraph of the press release is essentially a dry narration of the reported events -- ending with an extraordinary closing sentence, emphasis ours:

On Friday, June 26, 2009, according to press reports and witness statements, a San Diego County Sheriff's deputy, responding to a noise complaint, entered the home of Shari Barman who was hosting a political gathering to support Francine Busby, a candidate for Congress. When the homeowner questioned why she had to provide her date of birth, the deputy grabbed her arm, put it behind her back, and brought her to the ground. Feeling intimidated by a group of mostly middle-aged women, he pepper-sprayed a number of guests and arrested Barman.

The San Diego Sheriff's Department has launched an internal investigation into the matter, and as a result they are not publicly commenting. The District Attorney's office is also examining the matter as it has been put before them, as it weighs whether to actually press charges against the two women who were arrested.

In an interview with TPM on Monday, Busby said that the original noise complaint clearly had a political motivation. "The deputies were telling people that they were taking statements from, that the call came in about noise from a Democratic rally, or Democratic demonstration," she said. She also lambasted Abbott's performance: "He was not listening; there was no controlling this person. The people who asked him to stop hurting this woman were pepper-sprayed without warning, there was no talking to this man."

And Busby also immediately set out to parlay this development into some good for her campaign, putting out a fundraising e-mail about the incident. "I am going to fight even harder to stop this hateful intimidation," she wrote. "I hope that I can count on you to fight this battle with me."

Shari Barman, the homeowner who was arrested, also released a statement Monday night: "He told me I was under arrest, grabbed my right arm, twisted it behind me and threw me on the ground. Some of the 25 or so people who were still in attendance observed what was happening and started asking the deputy what was going on. My partner, Jane Stratton, asked him to please be careful as I had recently had right shoulder surgery. His response was to knock her to the ground."


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As a middle-aged woman myself, I sorta resent the fact that the inference is we're not physically a threat--but that's a great closer, nonetheless.

I bet the officer in question was hopped up on steroids. Is there routine drug testing of sheriffs, or is that just confined to highschool kids and professional athletes?

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That's a good point, about the drugs. I'm sure Justices Alito and Thomas would recommend strip searching his daughter to see if she's hiding any drugs for him.

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He's probably just loaded with sugar donuts and beer from that morning, after finishing his previous shift.

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"As a middle-aged woman myself, I sorta resent the fact that the inference is we're not physically a threat"

What, seriously? I'll bet you that the sheriff in question is bigger and stronger than me - a 25 year old male in decent shape - and I have yet to see the middle-aged woman that I'd consider a physical threat. Also, remember that sheriffs are trained in hand-to-hand combat and carry weapons, both lethal (guns) and non-lethal (pepper spray, tasers).

I would hate to see a fight between this guy, armed as he was, and you with 10 of your middle-aged female friends, unarmed as you would be at a party. In fact, I couldn't bear to watch that at all.

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The point of CT Voter's comment was that nobody wants it to be assumed that they couldn't defend themselves if the need arose. Everyone wants to believe they've got something extra in the tank, wants to be the woman in Oregon (I think) who smothered the ax-wielding intruder her husband had hired to kill her. She's not denying it, just expressing good-natured unhappiness at the assumption.

Good thing you set her straight and made sure she realizes you could kick her ass. :|

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Thank you. I obviously didn't express myself particularly well.

I happen to know more than a few "middle-aged women" who could kick just about anyone's ass, but that isn't the stereotype people have (yet) of "middle-aged" women. My comment had more to do with stereotypes than the particular situation in question.

Yes, everyone, I KNOW that an armed individual is going to be in a better position than a bunch of unarmed middle-aged whoevers, but that wasn't the point.

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My first thought was not steroids but PTSD.

Sheriff Deputy Marshall Abbott is apparently 28 yrs old, a former marine and has been on force for about 2 yrs.

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I think you've got it there. The poor guy probably has long training from the marines in how to subdue Iraqis where physical force is the first and only option used.

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And if he was prescribed an SSRI for the PTSD, it's possible he experienced a manic episode (which about 4% of the population are susceptible to) that often results in bizarre and/or violent behavior.

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That didn't occur to me. I hope he gets some care, regardless of the origins of his behavior.

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"As a middle-aged woman myself, I sorta resent the fact that the inference is we're not physically a threat--but that's a great closer, nonetheless."

It's the context, a young cop who should be able to handle some very dangerous people should not feel threatened in a swank neighborhood at what was basically a cocktail party.

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Political correctness and reality don't always coincide. A hulking police officer is almost surely stronger and more imposing than middle-aged professional women. Get over it.

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CT Voter, I'm a middle aged man, and I bet I can take you.

Seriously, a middle aged woman or man is not a threat for a heavily armed sheriff wearing a kevlar vest, with an armed helicopter escort and backup.

He's wearing a sig sauer or glock on his belt, has a taser, pepper spray and certainly a combat shotgun in his trunk.

Ms Barman was no threat and should not have been mishandled. However, knowing my fellow Dem activists, especially from SD, they probably got in his face, a little bit. Still no excuse.

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"To serve and protect",(the power structure that is).

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And the the sheriff's office policy will be to Swerve and Deflect any charges of police brutality.
But Joe the Plumber says this kind of thing happens to Christians, now that Barack Obama has been elected.

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Gee - I can't remember a day passing without some 65+ something elderly lady going upside the head of some burly armed police officer and making him look like a wimp.......

Why, it's the typical American way!!!!!

My Mom was actually the scourge of the Ithaca Police Department!!

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I still have some legal questions regarding this matter - maybe someone here knows:

Can an officer walk into a house uninvited without a warrant? What if he is following someone like the homeowner who has walked away from him? Had this actually been a boozer blow-out rocking the neighborhood and no one coming to the door, would that make a difference?

If a noise complaint is called in, is the responding officer compelled to issue a warning even if he feels that the noise he hears when he arrives doesn't rise to the level of unlawful noise? This could be important as when this officer arrived there wasn't much going on.

Was the homeowner legally compelled to provide her birthdate? I don't know what her problem was with providing the info, but was she legally compelled to do so or be subject to a trip downtown?

In an early article about this incident, it said that people were taking photos with their phones which was a problem for the sheriffs. It implied that the phones were taken away. Is that legal? I'm presuming that since there isn't a big stink on that subject that people got their phones back before the night was out-I'd like to see those pictures.

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I was only a court clerk, but my judge heard several cases dealing with stuff like this, so I'll give your questions a shot, and if any lawyers want to correct me, I will happily stand corrected.

"Can an officer walk into a house uninvited without a warrant?"

No.

"What if he is following someone like the homeowner who has walked away from him?"

In my inexpert opinion, it depends on whether the officer has observed something that gives reasonable cause to believe that a crime is occurring. In this case, the crime would be "disturbing the peace," so he would have to observe enough going on to make that charge. If eyewitness accounts are true and there was very little disturbing noise, then it would seem that he probably had no right to walk in.

"Had this actually been a boozer blow-out rocking the neighborhood and no one coming to the door, would that make a difference?"

See answer to above question.

"If a noise complaint is called in, is the responding officer compelled to issue a warning even if he feels that the noise he hears when he arrives doesn't rise to the level of unlawful noise?"

No.

"Was the homeowner legally compelled to provide her birthdate? I don't know what her problem was with providing the info, but was she legally compelled to do so or be subject to a trip downtown?"

It depends on the jurisdiction. The Supreme Court ruled in a 2004 case called Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada that laws requiring people to identify themselves to law enforcement officers upon request are not unconstitutional and do not violate protections against privacy or self-incrimination. However, there still has to be an actual law on the books requiring people to identify themselves. I don't know if this particular neighborhood had such a law.

"In an early article about this incident, it said that people were taking photos with their phones which was a problem for the sheriffs. It implied that the phones were taken away. Is that legal?"

Unclear. The sheriffs could claim that the photos and videos are evidence. Of course, if they did that then the defendant would have a right to see them.

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Addendum: the Hiibel case I cited also dealt with the Fourth Amendment. Just putting that out there for your information.

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Depends on a couple factors. If it is a "party" and the door is being used as a common entrance or is already open, they can stick their head and leg inside and prevent its closure. If they observe ANY behavior that would give "cause" to believe illegal actions are being committed, they can at that point enter without an invitation. This all without a warrant. They train the police department in Tennessee to obtain entry in this manner. If you do not want them to at the LEAST stick their head and leg inside your door and force it to remain open until you ask them in or they get tired of standing there, the BEST option is to keep your door locked, walk out your back door, lock it behind you, then speak to them on the porch.

While I was in college I watched the local police kick the front door of my fraternity house in and arrest a guy that lived there as was at the time 2 feet from his bedroom door for public intoxication and the DA and Judge not only allowed the case to proceed but he was convicted. That was with no warrant, or invitation. The door was also deadbolted and we could not open it because none of the people at the door actually had a key to it, and 2 people were at the time walking around to speak with the police. This was because of a noise complaint that was never verified to have ever even been called in. He also never had his blood alcohol tested. He just happened to be the guy closest to the door. They refused to explain why he was being placed under arrest until after he was in the car cuffed. They would not explain the charges. They would not explain the reason for forced entry other than "You wouldn't unlock the door". They made no attempt to arrest him peacefully, immediately arm bared him and held him on ground with a nightstick and threatened a crowd of around 20 girls and 5 guys with pepper spray.

People think this sort of behavior by police departments is rare, the fact is it is actually very common. It just rarely happens to any people who have the ability to sound off about it at a press conference. It is unfortunate that it happened to this group, but in a way it is helpful to everyone else that has no sounding board for this type of unwarranted police persecution. Police departments in this country are out of line a lot in regard to their respect of the rights of the citizens.

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Yes, it's very common, especially where there are no witnesses. And most people have no recourse.

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Not to drift too far from the subject (OK, it is waaay OT), where did you go to school? I never heard of a fraternity party with a 4-to-1 ratio of girls to guys...

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Lol was after a party, was literally just 25 people or so in a living room with a boombox at that point, but generally the parties at Middle Tenn State were always a 1:1 or better ratio from the guys perspective, lot more girls attend there than guys from what I could always gather.

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Deputy Marshall G. Abbott sounds like a steroid abuser.

I believe the phenomenon is called 'roid rage (for steROID induced rage). There's something like a national epidemic in local law enforcement using performance enhancing drugs like steroids and human growth hormones as a replacement for weight lifting or other normal forms of body building. (I personally think it's a carry over from the private contractors, like Blackwater, who were busted for killing a bunch of innocent bystanders in Iraq)

But, internal affairs can only investigate crimes within the department. Who ends up policing the police? Who investigates the unwritten policy that allows illegal steroid use to go unchecked?

Barry Bonds? (who cares?) These cops on drugs are a real problem.

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It sounds like steroids were involved with Abbott's personal behavior but who ordered the helicopter and dog units for a noise complaint? That sounds like a systemic problem.
May Abbott's balls shrivel and his bones turn to dust from the 'roids.

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One thing that became clear to me in reading this post was that 7 cop cars and a helicopter were responding to Officer in Trouble not the noise complaint. Until there is a cover-up, Abbot's on the hook for the response.

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It's worth pointing out that this is sadly typical of Southern California law enforcement. All too often, the reckless violence is directed toward racial minorities rather than at guests attending a political fundraiser and doesn't get much notice (I'm not talking about Rodney King, but about the persistent, casual violence--verbal and physical--with which police officers and sheriffs deputies conduct themselves all too frequently in Los Angeles and San Diego). With full regard for difficulty of being a cop, those sheriffs deputies who did use excessive force should be charged with assault and should go to jail.

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This is what you get when you militarize your police forces to fight the 'War on Drugs'. Posse Comitatus is a joke, we've had a standing army on our streets for well over a decade. Throw in the typical steroid usage, and the kind of person who wants to be a cop in the first place, and you have a volatile combination. It's over folks, can't get the toothpaste back in the tube now, the police state is self aware and DA offices across the country refuse to prosecute.

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Officer Abbot became a sheriff when he left the Marine Corps. At 29, he's only been a sheriff for 2 yrs.

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Which is appropo of what exactly. I'm talking about a culture that's been going on for longer than 2 years. However, since you've brought it up, it's a problem for military to go into law enforcement as soon as they leave the service for obvious reasons.

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BinG-O!

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Can't think of a better scenario for a lawsuit against the SDSD for violation of the constitutional rights of the homeowner and the other guests who were pepper sprayed.

Right to assemble, anyone?

I don't wonder that the ACLU is interested, but so should be the US Atty in SD and the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division.

This was pure and simple assault under the color of law.

Where's the California AG?

There needs to be some serious investigation OUTSIDE the Sheriff's Dept.

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Just checked the San Diego Union Tribune. The DA is looking into the incident AND a new sheriff is getting sworn in today.

New Sheriff in Town!!

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Cal Gal, the present San Diego County Sherrif's term runs through 2011. How can a new Sherrif be sworn in? Kollendar, the Sherrif, has had contriversial tenure and I am not surprised at this incident. I was lived in Carlsbad, the next town north of Encinitas and the SDCSD was always in the news.

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Wait'll those Xe boys get back from Iraq, 'roided and pumped-up, with personal experience with deadly force and not hesitant to shoot anyone they feel is a threat. They'll be prime candidates for law enforcement jobs.
Good times ahead!

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If the noise complaint was bogus, and it certainly looks that way, the SD will have a record of the person who called it in because they don't take anonymous complaints of that sort. That would be a good place for the county to start collecting the multi million dollar settlement they are going to end up paying. He obviously owns valuable property...

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Maybe it's just because I'm watching through "the Wire" these days, but this is really a reflection of modern policing where citizens are treated like enemies and are expected to meekly obey any order from police.

For example, see the many incidents where Tazers are used to zap people simply to make them compliant and obedient.

Yes, the War on Drugs has so distorted our nation's police system that citizen rights have become a thing of the past and the police think of themselves more as inmates than public servants.

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Ooops. That was to have been "prison guards."

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My 21 yr. old daughter was recently arrested for a very minor offense (one that would normally be taken care of with a ticket), and when she asked if she had to answer more questions (aggressively and rudely asked questions) after she'd identified herself and given her address she was taken to jail, necessitating us going down there in the middle of the night and paying $500 to get her out. It was simple harassment because she wasn't "being cooperative"; additional charges were also filed because of her "lack of cooperation". I have a lot of respect for some police officers that I know personally, but some of these folks will tolerate no questions about your rights or the law or anything else they don't want to hear. It's pretty scary. Here in northern Utah they're driving all my kids out of town. We live in a beautiful spot, but my kids can barely tolerate being here because of fear of and anger towards the police. There is no recourse from the prosecutors or judges here in this very conservative town. You're just screwed.

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Remember the guy who was tasered at UCLA? He just got paid $250,000...

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The cops have been out of control in this country for quite some time.

You can sse it in their demeanor. Just below the surface is a lot of unchecked rage waiting to explode.

Cops are Americans just like the rest of us with many being disenchanted with how things are going. Unfortunately, many are clueless about why or how to address it. Those ones shouldn't be wearing a badge.

The other dimension to this, the political one, should serve as an eye opener for public officials all across this country. They need to take heed of our headlong rush into insanity. If this occurred as portrayed we are moving into very dangerous waters.

I've commented in the past that I'm afraid one of these days there'll be blood in the streets. No matter how nuanced this will be spun it is another indicator that supports my fear. This comes right back to the federal government and the non-response to so many of the things that have harmed the people of this country without a shred of accountability. This occurrence will become more common in time unless our government changes. Really changes.

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Obama is not helping things by refusing to adhere to the Constitution at all times, even when it is difficult to do so. Obviously I refer to the continued imprisonment of people at GITMO without any charges against them, and the refusal to open up for transparent government, where it is inconvenient.

Until we can change the culture here towards an absolute requirement that the Bill of Rights cannot ever, at any time, under any circumstance be violated, nothing will change. And, the best way to get there is to support the ACLU generously, even when they defend child molesters and "terrorists". Presidents who won't go along with this need to be voted out of office as soon as possible.

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Oh Yeah! Obama is part of all this just as much as any other politician. Probably more because of what he portrayed during the course of the campaign. All our politicians are ensconed in their safe havens of power with little worry about keeping their families safe from harm, finances, health care and all the other things regular people worry about. Their reality and ours are light years apart. At least half our congresspersons and senators need to be regular people so there is some perspective in Washington.

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Cops just naturally suck.

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Rod Farva has got nothing on this guy. Perhaps he was afraid of catching teh ghey?

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A Sheriff named Marshall? You just know he has been owning this pop-gun mentality, since he was hall monitor.

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LMAO!!!!

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This guy's picture looks like every angry, micro-penis, self hating, racist, homophobe, Christian, willfully ignorant conservative white guy I've ever seen.

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This is an obvious example of left wing abuse against the police forces of this country. Even Stephan Colbert would not overlook the transgressions made against an obviously overwhelmed police force.

I think the only fair settlement to compensate the poor police officer would be a nice lifetime job, free health and pension. Cost of living would be nice. Would it also be possible to see if we can't provide them with retirement benefits, including health care for the rest of his life. After what he has been through, it is only fitting.

Due to the fact that these middle aged democrat women were more than likely armed and dangerous, could we, for the sake of god, please provide these cops with more armored vehicles. Please include more AR15's, sniper rifles and the full range of anti terror gear. Robots, dogs, anti armor weapons and the full list of lethal weapons needed to subdue such obvious terror.

There is nothing worse in this country than a bunch of middle aged democrat women, hell bent on destroying the right wing way of life. For the love of god, please stop these women. Let's pray that this police officer will be free to return home to hug his daughter and punch oput his wife's lights.

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The cop should be forced to serve tea at the lady's next ten parties.

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Award for Best Comment, Humor Division.
Except that I doubt these activist women are having tea parties (if they're anything like me).
But he could still serve them tea!

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I don't see anything comic about this incident. I hope someone sues the pants off the SDPD.

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This was SD County Sheriff, not the SDPD.

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That, too.

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Come on folks, we're being awfully glib here generalizing the overreaction of one schmuck into incompetence and brutality of the entire police force. I'm no fan of the culture of bravado and machismo that seems all too common in SoCal, but I'm not ready to throw all of them under the bus.

This is a systemic problem of poor leadership and poor training, not a problem with anyone who wears a police uniform.

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...and the 'good cops' who are keeping their mouths shut? Your one rotten apple argument is as valid as the marijuana is a gateway drug argument...which is to say it's not valid.

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Send this asshole to prison. There - once the prison population finds out he is an ex-cop - they will help him get in touch with his feminine side. Then he will cry out for the prison guards to protect him. And they will shoot him in the fact with pepper spray because he is causing a disturbance. A that little light-bulb will light-up and he will say...oh...this must be why we have a constitution.

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There must have been a dozen other officers present. Assuming they were mostly of the majority good cop variety exactly what were they doing to get this lone asshole under control?

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Is there any actual evidence that this guy is on steroids? Or that steroid use is common among police officers? I think it's more likely that the man is unwell, incompetent, poorly trained, and/or just a dick.

And also, if that roomful of middle-aged activists had wanted to beat this cop to death, it's likely they could have done so. He probably could not have shot, sprayed, and zapped everyone there before he got a chair or a wine bottle in the head. It was not impossible for him to be harmed. What is ridiculous about his behavior is that he reacted this way in the absence of any real aggression -- law enforcement officers in particular should have an understanding of physical conflict and be able to tell whether a situation is dangerous or merely annoying.

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What I want to know is how much did this cost San Diego County ? And how many real criminals slipped through the cracks while deputies where busy chasing down this non-sense ?

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Eh, his wife probably left him and took up with a gay women. That put a burr under his sheriff's saddle that he just can't dig out.

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Where the hell have you all been. This is Standard Operating Procedure for Law Enforcement and has been for a very long time. Most people I know refuse to call the police because the outcome is often much worse then just dealing with the situation yourself. Personally I was handcuffed, beaten on the hood of a sheriff's vehicle, hog tied and thrown in the rear of a squad face down. They stopped for coffee on the way to jail. I couldn't feel my hands for 6 months after that. They thought I was someone else, but pressed resisting arrest charges even though they knew I wasn't the guy they were looking for. Had to cover for the beating, I guess.

I told this story in a classroom full of young black men. Many had similar experiences or knew first hand of someone who had. It was just a fact of life for them. Now it is for the rest of us too.

If you don't think this goes on all the time just watch the TV show "Cops." Watch the attitude of the officers toward the public. They treat people like shit while on CAMERA! Imagine what they do when the cameras aren't there.

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"Feeling intimidated by a group of mostly middle-aged women, he pepper-sprayed a number of guests and arrested Barman."

You all make light of this, but you forget these middle-aged women were LESBIANS! If lesbians can have sex without a penis, who knows what else they are capable of? That cop may have been defending himself from being turned gay.

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Risk of violence or no, one would think a large part of police/sheriff's training would teach them not to be the first aggressor, but be ready to respond to violence in kind. I'm not so starry-eyed to think that's out of respect for citizens in the innocent-until-proven-guilty mindset, but in the interest of liability for potential excessive force/police brutality lawsuits.

These stories of various law enforcement officers becoming the first one to pepper-spray/taser/swing a baton in an altercation are becoming more and more common. It's a bad, bad omen, and the hopeful upshot of this happening at a congressional aspirant's rally as opposed to a boozy frat party is that it has gained national attention, and while I know the media won't necessarily have the attention span to follow this particular story beyond the obvious juicy bits, the conversations around water coolers nationwide could be a good thing to raise consciousness about it. Of course, the authoritarians in our midst just loooove this sort of thing (especially when it happens to Democrats), so it may take some sort of adorable-blond-girl-gets-tasered-and-dies sort of travesty to get them to care. Hope not.

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There's a reason we call them PIGS and this is it.

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Of course he was afraid. Everyone knows liberals have strong tendencies toward authoritarianism and violence... especially the middle-aged female ones.

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If I read this story as an outsider, I would suspect an anti-gay, anti-Democratic bias.

However, I just helped someone recover through something similar in San Diego County-- so similar it's eerie.

A middle-class, apolitical family had a stuffy, Martha Stewart style wedding reception at their middle class suburban-y home. If you worried about anything, you might fear "death from boredom." Trust me on this.

A neighbor made a noise complaint. Supposedly. That was never proven. Who the hell knows what provoked this.

Out of the blue, The SWAT squad arrived, pepper sprayed everyone, threw the mother of the groom in the street and broke her arm, arrested the best man, and just generally TERRORIZED the entire wedding party.

As in this case, there was nothing rational that provoked it, nothing rational that accelerated it. Every time someone said, "Gee there must be a mistake," they were bodily attacked by the police.

My friend is the Best Man. He is a member of the National Guard and an Iraq vet. He was totally traumatized. I got him together with one of best criminal lawyers and ACLU members in town, who took his case in hand and hooked him up with the best people in San DIego. Every charge was dropped, but the DA said the deal was they had to promise not to sue. They were so freaked out they agreed.

I thought it was a freak occurrence, some renegade absurd exercise. I assumed someone must have been fired. And now... I read this. Same group, same behavior. What THE FRICK is going on?

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Cardiff, where this took place is in the county and not an incorporated city so they have to rely on the Sherriff's Department. These guys are typically not anywhere near the caliber of the city police. Having lived there, this does not surprise me at all. The macho cop mentality coupled with the fact that most of these guys are real right wing reaps this kind of behavior. Caridff is a pretty wealthy area of well educated people. I suspect we have not heard the last of this. A bunch of well educated activist women does not bode well for the Sherriff's Department.

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Look, Abbott's problems are just beginning. Even if nothing at all happens when it is investigated and he's exonerated, he will forever be known as the guy who called for backup to help break up a party of middle-aged lesbians. His fellow deputies are going to be laughing up their sleeves at him, and he'll know it. And even if they aren't, he's always going to suspect that they are and start overcompensating. Sooner or later, he's going to wind up wandering a warehouse with a flashlight.

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Abbott was sent out to "slap the bitches around," and he did so. He's on his way to a promotion.

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Ever get hit with a club? Go ahead- climb. Do some pullups. It won't add feet to your striking range.

She should have shot the cop.

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Sorry, this response relates to the exceptional example of Col. Ashbachar's fitness as it relates to whether mom ought to be slapped around by Deputy Marshall Abbott, who recently graduated from war (flawlessly rehabilitated and ready for re-entry into society...).

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Why does every one think he was on steroids? If he had been using for awhile then I think you can just look at him and tell and yes they should be tested for use of HGH and steroids.
Been on the force 2 years? Is that on patrol for 2 years or in the department, point being how long are they guards before they go on patrol? He might be very very "green".

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Word has it this fracas has upped Busby's level of contributions (I know I sent her some bucks), so the joke's on the right-wing PD and their crazy deputy. And there should be a lawsuit, as well, just for a kicker.

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ERIC HOLDER WHERE ARE YOU!?

This is infuriating. Every time I read something about this story, I'd like scream. That nasty neighbor must be revealed and prosecuted for making a phony 911 call. The SD Sheriff's and DA's office must be taken to task.

For goodness sake, they were in an upper-scale neighborhood. I'm betting (hoping) that the folks at this event aren't the type of people to take this sitting down and besides getting Ms. Busby a great fundraising issue–(I donated)-will take down some unworthy public servants and punish a vile, hateful fraudster.

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An internal investigation by the San Diego Sheriffs?

Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, riiiiiiiiiiight.

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That is what cops do. Why all the sudden is everyone so upset just because it happened at a cocktail party?

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A cop is a cop is a cop.

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I'm in the same general area, with the same sheriff's department and have called in complaints stemming from some abandoned property next door which involve, oh fires, vandalism, underrage drinking, excessive noise,loud loud music, drugs, breaking and entering, fights, firecrackers, reckless driving, dumping refuse..that sort of thing ya know.

usually i get a "a deputy will call you back" response..in a couple of hours, a deputy calls back, asks me a few questions and encourages me to continue to report. sometimes they say they will send a car. rarely does one ever show up, and if it does, it is at least a few hours later.
no eight cars, no helicopter, no deputy loaded for bear, or conversing dems.

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Probably fundamentalist. American fundamentalists with guns are the same people as the Iranian Basiji militia.

Educate the young.

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Re: Deputy Marshall G. Abbott - San Diego

I get real concerned about police brutality* --- the attack on Ms. Barman should be jumped on hard.

In addition Abbott's apparent blog on Facebook details his love of motorcycles, guns and other manly, virile things. (He says "Guns r cool!") To me this person seems rather infantile and not the kind of person who should be carrying a gun!

There is also a website called RateMyCop.com which gives Deputy Abbott a "five star" rating from someone. (Possibly a friend.) Anyone can join and rate a police person.

Police in major jurisdictions are compensated very well with their base salary, benefits, normal overtime and accelerated overtime during the last years of tenure to enhance their retirement pay. And they back them up when they make little mistakes. (Like those 41 shots needed to kill unarmed Amadou Dialou in NY.) Moreover police unions seem to be a little too effective at protecting even the most dangerous police officers.

Complaint letters to the sheriff with copies of that letter to all concerned (all county supervisors, the county administrator the county personnel head, etc.) by attendees at the fundraiser held by Ms. Barman are very important. (Multiple copies insure that such documents won't be "lost".) Police people like Abbott will likely make these kinds of mistakes again. And they will probably get proper oversight only when one of those really nasty plaintiffs' attorney drags these letters out of the files as evidence to support the pattern of violence.

*As an older white guy with careful verbal skills who has never had more than a minor traffic ticket (expunged by going to traffic school) I personally have little to worry about in any chance event with police. But rouge police officers worry me.

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THE SD Sheriff's Dept. has been right-wing, mean, and militaristic, for years. I can remember in the late 60's and early 70's, many of my long-haired friends and I were pulled over constantly and harassed there. They've been nasty for years. Real bummer too, is that they train officers for other counties around the country, including Reno, Nevada's, or at least they used to.

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The Hiibel ruling did not say you ALWAYS have to identify for a cop. Rather, that youy have to when the threshhold for a "Terry Stop" has been met, "reasonable articulable suspicion" of a crime.

Before Terry, the controlling case was Kolender v Lawson 461 U.S. 352 (1983), ironically from this same neighborhood 20 years previous, with the same Sheriff as Defendant, a ruling that carrying ID is not required.

The Hiibel court did not overturn Kolender, but distinguishhed it with the Terry threshhold.

A suit over the recebt incident will turn on whether the uncoroborated complaint reaches this threshhold.

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It sounds as though these women got off lightly in comparison to how Jamiel Shaw, his wife, little boy and sister were treated in Los Angeles, by Mayor Antonio Villaragosa. In case you aren't familiar with the Shaw family, their eldest son, Jamiel jr. was shot to death by an illegal alien gang banger (who had a tattoo "KB" on the back of his neck, "KB" stands for kill blacks, as do all members of the 18th st. gang), 3 doors down from the family home, while he walked home from school. Jamiel was a great student, and a football star, so great he was being scouted by Rutgers and Stanford. His family was poor, but hard working, his mother was serving in Iraq at the time her son was slaughtered.

After their son's death, the Shaw family sought to amend Los Angeles' Special Order 40, just to allow police to check the immigration status of gang members who were arrested. The illegal alien who had killed their son, had just been released from jail the day before he killed Jamiel. The killer had an extensive rap sheet, for violence, possession of weapons, robbery, drugs, you name it, he'd done it. Because they merely sought to amend Special Order 40, the city attorney assigned to their case, sought to blackmail the Shaws. Telling them if they pursued such an amendment, she would claim that Jamiel had been in a gang, when she knew he hadn't.

The Shaws started a petition drive, to gather signatures to get their amendment on the ballot. They went to a local park each Sunday to gather signatures. On the Sunday Mayor Villaragosa left to attend the Democrat National Convention, he sent a fully armed SWAT team, helicopter patrols and police to the park to harass the Shaws. The same mayor who doesn't want illegal aliens to have to show documentation, had SWAT demand the Shaws provide ID, plus social security numbers and other documents, this was to intimidate them. It was so ridiculous, the police and SWAT officers were embarrassed and apologized to the family. But Villaragosa, himself a former gang banger, has refused to apologize. Also, after they'd gathered more than 67 thousand signatures and handed them in to city hall, the city claimed they had only handed in 17 thousand signatures, and that they couldn't find all the petition sheets the Shaws had turned in, so the amendment wasn't allowed to go on the ballot.

The woman who had the fundraiser, will surely get better protection under the law, than the poor Shaw family has, so any complaints she might have sound pretty frivolous by comparison.

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We need more cops. Actually, we need our own cops. Thugs who can protect us from the public's thugs.

And mm232 may have a point. Nobody should complain about the stuff police do unless they're being victimized by illegals.

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