Oh, brother. It's the law in Hawaii first of all. Second, the republican governor attested to it's authenticity and that he was born in hawaii as did the head of the Hawaii department of health. Also, the announcement was in the hawaii news papers. What more do you freaking want.

Incidentally, he is an american citizen if he was born in timbuktu, because his mother was an american citizen. Duh. This citizen of kenya crap is really absurd and evidences a complete lack of knowledge of citizenship law.

By the way, I haven't had to show anyone my birth certificate since I got my social security card when I was 15. I have no idea where it is. I would have to get a copy from the state where I was born and would not have an "original." Oh, yeah, I forgot, I'm an angry white guy. I guess I don't have to worry about it.

Pathetic.

Attention: davidfarrar! You have done well in your mission to spread disinformation and fear. Return at once to planet Birtheria for further instructions and programming.

Section Leader Glfump, Third Quadrant, 4th Sector.

I changed a driver's license from NJ to PA. I then changed from PA to NY. In neither instance was I required to show any sort of birth certificate. I can't think of many instances where I was required to produce even a copy of birth certificate, let alone an original, so this whole line of argumentation: "We need to show our birth certificate for x" is mostly BS. As for the foreign passport issue, that's a red herring. Many people have more than one passport and has zero bearing on their citizenship status (eg, my sister has lived in France for the last fifteen years and married a Frenchman, so she has an EU passport in addition to her US passport. She remains a "natural born" US citizen nonetheless.) And is there anyway to put the whole "foreign-born father" thing to rest? Think people. When the Constitution was written, most Americans had foreign-born parents, being a group of former colonies and all that. That's why citizenship in the US gives prominence to your place of birth. Many countries do not give automatic citizenship to people born within their borders. It depends on the citizenship of the parents, in most cases. In the US, it does not, and that is one of its unique features. So, the fact that his father is not a US citizen means diddly-squat, so why do birthers keep bringing it up? Hmm, I might have to ponder that one.

I wonder how Obama got his drivers license and passport, then? He sure is one clever guy, he fools the DMV, the State Department, and now all of us!

It's fun when birthers come around. They say the silliest things. There is no state in the nation that "requires" a birth certificate for a driver's license. U.S. Passport or SSN # (on the original card, or in most states on a tax return) are primary ID and all that is required. If you don't have either of those, most states require 2 forms of "secondary" ID which can include a birth certificate, DL from another state, Homeland Security ID card, etc...

Naturalization laws of 1961 only deal with the children of those seeking naturalization. Since no one is arguing that Mama Obama was a furrener, bringing it up makes you look stupid.

One of the issues about the "birthers" that bothers many Americans is the fact that they are required to "show" their certified copy of their long-form birth certificate simply to get their driver's license changed from one state to another.

I've lived in five states: New York, California, Mississippi, Massachusetts and Connecticut. I've never had to show my birth certificate when exchanging drivers' licenses. Never. So which states were you referring to?

"...his foreign travels, apparently under a foreign passport..."

Where in the world is this coming from? Are you referring to his travel to Pakistan during a time in which Americans were legally traveling to Pakistan? A travel advisory means that travelers should be careful; it does not mean that no one can travel there.

You lost me at Obama's "Indonesian adoption."

Farrar, Obama HAS presented his documentation to officials. The state of Hawaii OFFICIALLY confirmed his birth there. The GOP governor of Hawaii OFFICIALLY confirmed his birth there. Two Hawaiian newspapers recorded the event in 1961.

Obama has been checked out by the FBI and the Secret Service. He has the highest security clearance in the country. The McCain oppo research crew checked him out. No one found anything to even remotely call his citizenship into question.

Factcheck.org reported that they have seen the documentation. Hawaii, BTW, went to an all eletronic system in 2001, and no longer have the files for ANY of their citizens for easy access. Obama, contrary to the birthers' complaints, has ALREADY gone to extraordinary lengths, which have NEVER been asked of other presidents, to prove his citizenship.

It's a done deal. It's over. He's a citizen. He proved it. It's official. He has a passport, the highest security clearance in the country, and there are no questions about his citizenship from any OFFICIAL source.

I truly, truly hope that Obama doesn't blink. I will be very disappointed in him if he gives you morons the time of day. Why should he? You've convinced yourself that there is a conspiracy going on, some sort of dastardly plot, otherwise the mountains of evidence would have satisfied you.

At this point, I think it's safe to say, that if Obama actually went to a birthers' house, knocked on the door, was invited downstairs into the dungeon, could get past the swastikas on the wall and the pictures of Hitler in drag, and handed said birther THE copy of his long form birth certificate, said birther would see all of that as just one more part of the conspiracy.

Obama should NOT fall for it.

OK you pathetic tool, riddle me this then: If Obama, like the other Americans you reference above, had to show his birth certificate to get his driver's license transferred (since he's lived in multiple states in his driving years) and obtain his passport, which you skipped, then has that question not been settled?

Or are you simply blathering on for the bloggular equivalent of hearing yourself talk?

There are no realistic alternatives, you realize.

Of course we wouldn't.

And this needs to be pointed out, again and again and again.

This is nothing but ugly racism.

Oh brother. Go crawl back under your rock. That is not accurate about the hawaii law. Incidentally, everything is computerized now and has been since 2000 in Hawaii.

Here is a classic to point out the racist absurdity of this nonsense.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/23/jon-stewart-eviscerates-t_n_243383.html

Note to davidfarrar:

The President of the United States is a black man.

Deal with it.

I think you need to get a hobby, like knitting or bird watching or volunteering at a homeless shelter, something that wouldn't keep you awake at night worrying about idotic conspiracy theories that occupy your every waking moment. You've obviously got too much time on your hands and you're filling it with fabricated details on subjects you know nothing about.

There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING in the 1961 natualization law that says his mother (who was an American citizen) was too young to bestow citizenship on her child. I don't know where you pulled that one from. Out of your ass I suppose. She was born in this country and she gave birth to Obama in Hawaii.

Really, get a hobby. It will help fill that void in your life.

Your comments, and your steadfast albeit pigheaded defense of them, reminds me of something my father used to say, "Never wrestle with a pig. You'll get dirty and the pig likes it".

Good luck with you completely insane, totally wrong crackpot theory. We live in the best country on earth, one that allows people like you to say and think what they want. I just don't want to get down in the slop and argue with you about it.

The Republican governor of Hawaii has in fact verified that the president was born in Hawaii. The hospital Obama was born in recently celebrated their 100th anniversary and included Obama as one of their children born in their hospital.
Are you also one of those birthers that is falsely claiming that Michelle was disbarred or forced to discontinue practicing law? Because birthers can't understand the nuance of someone who is an attorney who chooses to use her legal education in other ways than to practice law in the courtroom?
Birthers are ignorant racists who can't accept that they got whooped bad in the presidential election. Get used to it, because 2012 is going to be a repeat.

Explain this to me, please.

No State government will allow anyone access to YOUR certificate of live birth. Only you have access to it and any government function within the US as long as they have your permission. And your access is only a certified copy of the original, not the original - you aren't allowed to get near it. It's all done to protect your privacy and keep others away who might try to use your COLB without your knowledge or permission.

Secondly, COLB's have never been a requirement for public office. One would think if Obama was a Senator from Illinois, the COLB was a done deal and not an issue, especially since he wasn't born in Illinois.

Finally, the foreign passport lacks any substance - it's all conjecture. If there were such a passport, I guarantee you the State Department would be well aware of it. It's the one item a person has in their possession that is carefully managed and tracked not only within the US but in foreign countries as well. If there's a question at a border crossing, the nearest Embassy, staffed with State Department personnel, can pull up information on you in a heartbeat.

The birther movement is nothing more than a masquerade to hide the fact there some white people realize within 10 to 15 years, they'll be a minority and the Latinos and Blacks with be the controlling majority.