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Obama: "I Am Surprised By The Controversy" Over My Comments On Gates Arrest
President Obama is standing by his comments about the Henry Louis Gates case, which the Republicans have been attacking him on. From an interview with ABC News:
"I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement because I think it was a pretty straight forward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who's in his own home," Obama said.
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"I think that I have extraordinary respect for the difficulties of the job that police officers do," the president told Moran. "And my suspicion is that words were exchanged between the police officer and Mr. Gates and that everybody should have just settled down and cooler heads should have prevailed. That's my suspicion."
The president said he understands the sergeant who arrested Gates is an "outstanding police officer." But he added that with all that's going on in the country with health care and the economy and the wars abroad, "it doesn't make sense to arrest a guy in his own home if he's not causing a serious disturbance."
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Shouldn't the title say "surprised"
July 23, 2009 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's talking sense again. What's the MSM to do?
July 23, 2009 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha, ha!
July 23, 2009 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, the media's just getting warmed up on this one! They love a good controversy, especially one with a potential whiff (or stench) of racism.
July 23, 2009 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent statement by the President. I don't think it could be said more fairly. And screw the hyperventilating police-union flacks, who will NEVER admit that any officer in the history of the world has ever screwed up.
July 23, 2009 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like how Josh put it on the front page. "President digs in on controversial claim that arresting people in their own homes when they're not breaking any law represents substandard police work.
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July 23, 2009 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am not surprised by the controversy simply because that is the sad state which represent most of the MSM, and I am sure Obama wishes they, the MSM, would do better as does John Stewart.
July 23, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
It just burns that it was Lynn Sweet who started this whole stupid flap.
Nothing epitomizes the banality of political reporting better than Lynn Sweet.
July 23, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
She may be from Chicago, but she is no friend of Obama's. She demonstrated that all throughout the campaign and BLAGO blah!
July 23, 2009 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how many more questions she'll be allowed to ask over the next 3½ years.
July 23, 2009 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
...And that was that.
July 23, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad the president is standing by his comments. I was affraid he or Gibbs would try to walk back last night's press conference statement.
July 23, 2009 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
He talks straight to American people for 55 minutes on the most important domestic issue of the day. He is clear, articulate, and uses common sense. The yahoos in the press report "same old, same old, nothing to see here, move along." He states the obvious in answer to the last question and that is all the press wants to talk about. Apparently they want to change the subject. No, they have to change the subject. You think maybe the main stream media has gotten the message from the big insurance companies?
July 23, 2009 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSM: "No, no, no! Keep the controversy going!! It's shiny and not boring like stupid health care. Besides, we very serious reporters already have access to doctors, so what's the big deal?"
July 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
In Texas, if someone crosses your door step without your permission, you can shoot them.
Bang your dead.
They call it the "make my day" law.
I would suggest that being arrested in your own home for the crime of raising your voice so that people inside your house know you're mad might. . . well. . . it might make me mad.
July 23, 2009 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Louis Gates is almost 59 years old. Apart from the fact that he was in his own home, that's what makes the police's behavior all the more inexplicable.
July 23, 2009 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
59, uses a cane, and looks kinda frail, frankly.
Maybe the cop went to the same school of crowd control as that Sheriff's Deputy in San Diego did. . .
July 23, 2009 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well the spin control is out! They are touting this cop as a racial profiling expert, who has taught racial profiling at the academy for the last 5 years. He also was a campus police officer at Brandeis University in July 1993 when he administered CPR trying to save the life of former Boston Celtics player Reggie Lewis. He gave mouth to mouth to a black man. So see, he couldn't have been hating on Skip. Once you do something nice for blacks that means you've moved to a racial free zone!
I once had to fire a woman who used the N word in referring to her subordinates. In arguing her defense she said, "I am not a racist, I share my garden with those people!" That statement will stick with me forever!
July 23, 2009 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why make it a race issue he-said-he-said? It was sub-standard police work, period.
July 23, 2009 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
But would it have been substandard police work if he was dealing with a different Harvard Professor? Law enforcement in this country has a long history of treating people different in the justice system.
July 23, 2009 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You do not know, I do not know, no-fucking-one knows.
What is evident that both Gates and the cop had a bad attitude, and the cop failed to act as his stature required.
If you really must try make a race issue out of it, concentrate on the person who called the cops in the first place.
July 23, 2009 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I notice he didn't use the word "stupid" again. So, he's not standing behind his comments 100% exactly.
I said it before in another thread and I'll say it here: the president could have used this story as a peg to talk about racial profiling as he did, and still made his (quite funny) joke.
Calling the officer stupid and assuming facts not in evidence is for pundits, regular joes, etc.--not the F-ing POTUS!
The fact that he was spot on makes the PR even worse. Cry all you want about what is "true" but the Reps will get some mileage out of this and it's the president's fault.
July 23, 2009 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
If he didn't know the facts of the situation, that's what he should have said. And what he said about breaking into the White House WAS funny, and he's being entirely reasonable about it today by not backing down that much, the net effect is to take attention away from health care. He muffled, and muffed, his own message, unfortunately.
July 23, 2009 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get your quotes straight. Obama did not say the Cambridge police were stupid. He said they "acted stupidly." There's a big difference in the semantics there.
July 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I stand corrected. And it was still horribly undisciplined communication.
July 23, 2009 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, he can kiss the racist thug vote goodbye.
July 23, 2009 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL--if only the Dems would follow your lead--they could say whatever they want. Because like the Reps now, they'd be in the "super minority."
July 23, 2009 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, so some Dems rely on a share of the racist thug vote to stay in office.
Back to the point about Barack's statement -- he said the cops "acted stupidly", not that they were racist.
OTOH, a white Harvard professor won't usually be stupidly jostled off to jail by a cop who didn't like hearing the citizen's rant.
July 23, 2009 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It depends - is the white professor a long-hair?
July 24, 2009 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you--he rarely missteps when it comes to communicating something, but he did last night--should have just let it pass. Here's hoping this dies a quick death.
July 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe I should have said it like you did, CT.
Thanks.
July 23, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to say that I didn't find it a misstep. I found it refreshing to have someone be honest about race with regard to the law enforcement community. Police officers are like everyone else; they can do stupid things sometimes. It shouldn't be sacrilege to say it outloud.
July 23, 2009 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
If he didn't have all the facts, which he admitted he didn't, he shouldn't have voiced an opinion on how the police behaved, or didn't behave, because he didn't have all the facts at that point.
And yes, his response was refreshing in its candor and recognition of reality, but in the case in question, he didn't have all the facts.
So just don't comment on that case. If he wanted to point out that there is a real problem with "racial profiling" in general, great. But to say somethingn specific about this particular situation after admitting that you don't have all the facts seems like an invitation to trouble.
July 23, 2009 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
He didn't have enough facts to say whether the officer should be disciplined, whether there was racism involved.
He did, however, have sufficient facts to determine that the police had "acted stupidly," and he said as much.
July 23, 2009 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. If you don't have all the facts, you don't have enough information to determine whether someone was acting stupidly, appropriately, rashly, etc.
What if one of the facts still not in Obama's possession was the fact that Gates went after the police officer with his cane, and the police officer handcuffed him as a result?
Of course nothing of the kind happened, but if you don't have all the information, why discuss it? Why not just shut Lynn Sweet the hell up by saying "I'm not privy to all the information on THIS situation so I'm not going to discuss it".
Even better, don't call on the her in the first place.
July 23, 2009 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fact: cops responded to call of possible break-in and learned that it was the homeowner, not a burglar, trying to enter the home.
Fact: homeowner became irate with cops and made a big fuss about being hassled in his home.
Fact: cops arrested homeowner for disorderly conduct, handcuffed him and took him to the station.
Fact: charges were dropped and homeowner was released.
No matter how pissed off the cop was about the irate homeowner's tirade, there was no reason to handcuff him and haul him to jail. Doing so was stupid.
July 24, 2009 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gimme a break. If those are all the known facts, then why did Obama say "I don't have all the facts"?
If George W. Bush had ever said "I don't have all the facts but I think such and such was stupid" everyone at this site would have been shrieking in outrage. If you know you don't have all the facts, then just shut up about the situation until you have all the facts.
Obama made a mistake. Why everyone is insisting on defending this is just plain weird.
July 24, 2009 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack said he didn't have all the facts; he didn't say he didn't have any of the facts.
Being an asshole is not a crime. Gates may have erred in his verbal blast at the cops, but the remedy for that is not a "ride downtown" with cuffs on.
July 24, 2009 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't disagree that the cop's reaction seems inappropriate, especially after reading the police report.
I disagree with you, and others, who think it's appropriate for the president to say publicly "I don't have all the information about this situation but I'm still going to comment on it."
I think it was a mistake to say that. Politically, it's distracting from the health care reform. It provides another talking point for Republicans. How long will it be before some asshole Republican says "Well, maybe Obama doesn't have all the facts in this situation, either."
Aside from the politics, it seems unusual for Obama to declare his lack of knowledge about something and then go on and offer judgment on the situation. Maybe it's part of some Zen-master 6 moves ahead chess move, as others apparently think so, but call me a skeptic. I think he goofed, pure and simple.
July 24, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, because this will so help the GOP get over the hump in all those demographics they got their asses kicked in last November, like young people and minorities....
Jeez, get a grip.
July 23, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
get a grip? First, this has nothing to do with the impending 2010 elections, the president has a job to do--that is to sell the American public on health care reform so wavering members will be too scared to oppose it. Any distraction that unnecessarily diverts energy away from that task is NOT good for the prez or Dems--period.
And BTW, just how do you think the 2010 election is shaping up for Dems anyway? Do you really believe they will hold on to the seats they have now?
July 23, 2009 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cry all you want about what is "true" but the Reps will get some mileage out of this and it's the president's fault.
This is such a familiar refrain. We're told Obama is going to pay a political price for showing some basic common sense, and if he doesn't backtrack in response to GOP idiocy, everyone (i.e., moderate whites) will turn against him. Then, lo and behold, he actually stands by the common sense approach and the GOP pushes their BS line even harder and they end up looking stupid. Anyone who cares to listen to what he actually said knows that he wasn't denigrating police in general. It's only the people like Limbaugh who already think he is a "reverse racist" that actually think Obama was making broad comment about police conduct.
July 23, 2009 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, nothing you said here resembles what I said.
Second, I never said the prez would take a political hit. But he has created a controversy that will distract from his focus on health right here near his own deadline!
I'm just asking here, are we just too far inside the echo chamber to have a rational discussion about political tactics without using hyperbole and misrepresenting the statements of others?
July 23, 2009 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
CONCERN TROLL IS CONCERNED!
July 23, 2009 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Self-awareness and critical thought not allowed--got it.
July 23, 2009 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn right.
Glad Obama is taking a stand on this.
The Republicans are going to step into another race-baiting pool before too long.
They should just let it go, becasue like Joe the Plumber, how soon before this Crowley guy (if he is truly a racist, which I don't think he is, I just think as Obama said he acted stupidly) or some of his hero worshippers like "Whites under siege" Limbaugh says something more stupid
July 23, 2009 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just read an article that the arresting officer is an expert on racial profiling. Irony, table for two please.
July 23, 2009 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's an expert on profiling, AND, he gave MOUTH TO MOUTH to a black guy!
July 23, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree totally with you, ronbyers, Megadildos!
The one ting I admire about Obama is the grasp of events that he posesses and is able to effectively, and all the mainstream media wants is gossip, information be damne4d. I think that most of them are republican weasels, you can see the browb crumbs all over their noses. They've been wallowing in it for so long now, they don't know feces from shinola.
July 23, 2009 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fact of the matter is, if he HADN'T made a straightforward, no-nonsense statement, the usual suspects would be climbing up his colon for once again refusing to take a stand on controversial issues involving race. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
July 23, 2009 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM are all GOP-shoe-lickign bastards.
I don't think anyone, outside of the racist GOP crowd, cares. The GOP engage in a circle jerk, and the MSM salivates as if this matters or anyone else is paying attention.
Sure, we threw the GOP out of office.
Now, how do we get rid of these craven, cowardly, stupid MSM assholes!!!!
July 23, 2009 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have created the most proficient killers in the world. They have to do something when they're finished killing and breaking things in Iraq and Afghanistan. If I can slap around a "rag-head" why not a U.S. citizen. I'll bet ten-to-one the cop served time in the "sand box!"
July 23, 2009 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
And let's not forget that he started his response with: "I know Gates so I may be biased here"...that seems to get lost in translation, too.
July 23, 2009 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republicans have to learn that there are other Amendments of importance other than the Second. If Gates would have had a .50 caliber machine gun in his home that he bought from some sleezeball gun dealer, he would be a rightwing hero -- apart from him being black and educated and all.
July 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so with you. You'd think the ReThugs would realize from the word SECOND Amendment that there was at least ONE other amendment in the bill of rights -- namely the FIRST amendment.
It should be impossible for a police officer to arrest anyone for calling him names.
But then, if they were aware there was a First Amendment, they might also know about the Fourth Amendment, of which you speak.
Perhaps the cop WAS aware of it is some dim portion of his lizard brain, because he apparently knew he had to lure Gates out of his house to arrest him.
"Stupid" is not quite the right word, though. More like "abusive." More like "unconstitutional." More like WRONG.
July 23, 2009 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so with you. You'd think the ReThugs would realize from the word SECOND Amendment that there was at least ONE other amendment in the bill of rights -- namely the FIRST amendment.
It should be impossible for a police officer to arrest anyone for calling him names.
But then, if they were aware there was a First Amendment, they might also know about the Fourth Amendment, of which you speak.
Perhaps the cop WAS aware of it is some dim portion of his lizard brain, because he apparently knew he had to lure Gates out of his house to arrest him.
"Stupid" is not quite the right word, though. More like "abusive." More like "unconstitutional." More like WRONG.
July 23, 2009 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, lawyers and constitutionalists. Is the reason the cop asked Professor
Gates to "step outside" have anything to do with the Fourth Amendment...
That is, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses..."
Would a person being arrested in their own home for being HWB be a case for
a fourth amendment lawsuit?? Just asking.
July 23, 2009 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The big lawsuit I see here in the Section 1983 claim, which is essentially an allegation that a police officer violated Mr. Gates' civil rights when he arrested him on the basis of his race.
Obama is right on here. This guy got arrested because of his race. I mean, no one is saying that, but a police office who walks into a home and obtains identification to ensure the homeowner lives in this home has absolutely no basis for arresting the guy unless the police officer observes a crime -- such as drug use or some other crime being then committed.
Indeed, I would argue that the whole presence of the police officer in Mr. Gates' home was unconstitutional, unless Gates invited him into his home, because the cops lacked a warrant to come inside.
July 23, 2009 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
didn't gates break into his own home? and a neighbor report it?
seems the officer has some reason to have some suspicion. enough to enter the home?
after seeing id though, he needs to go away.
July 23, 2009 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, of course. This is a well-known cop trick when they want to set up a "contempt of cop" arrest and know they have to get the subject outside to be able to do it (most disorderly conduct ordinances specify public behavior and I believe that is the case in Cambridge.) It's often done from good motives i.e. breaking up a domestic dispute as peacefully as possible without anybody getting hurt. Nevertheless, it's always an abuse of discretion.
July 23, 2009 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a 4th amendment issue. Probably a Mass law issue. Disorderly requires more than Gates being mean to the cop in private. It had to happen in public. Clearly the cop knows that.
July 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP firestorm is to avoid people talking about the health care issues Obama discussed and the points he made. The less people talk about it, the less people are informed.
July 23, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just love how the conservatives are defending what the cop did. The cop goes to investigate off of the word of a phone call and sees a old black guy in the house. It should of been obvious pretty quickly that it was a mistake and then the cop should of said sorry for the inconvenience and leave the house.
Cops are supposed to be trained to handle people who are pissed off at them, which Gates had a reason to be, and arresting him in front of his own home isn't part of that training i bet.
July 23, 2009 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
The photo shows Gates handcuffed on his front porch. How does that become 'public space.' When the drunk kids of the lady across the street get rowdy on the porch and the cops show up, they don't get arrested, just told to go inside and keep it down - I've seen it happen more than once. Hell, when the (now departed, thank god) drug house across the street had guys on the porch threatening to kill each other the cops only drove by.
Not buying the cop's story.
July 23, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
My theory is that what set the cop off was Gates demanding his name and badge number. Try that some time when you're stopped- if you don't mind getting your ass kicked. Sad (since every citizen has a perfect right to demand that a cop identify himself) but true.
July 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, here in northern Utah nothing pisses off the cops quite like someone asking about their rights, even in the face of rude and semi-abusive treatment. They don't like being questioned, and don't like anyone suggesting that they can't do whatever they want. They'll punish anyone who doesn't show complete deference and compliance, if if the cops are the ones who are out of line. Out here the targets are non-Mormon young people, because we don't have enough Blacks and Latinos to keep them busy.
July 23, 2009 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotta love it, the cop ask him to come outside then he arrest him. If he didnt come outside he wouldn't be in "public" and the cop wouldn't of been allowed to arrest him.
July 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
In reply to Alexa, yes there is a Fourth Amendment issue, and that is no doubt why the police officer wanted to get Prof. Gates out of the house. Police cannot enter someone's home without probabale caues, consent, or a warrant. I doubt if Gates consented; in fact his alleged "belligerence" can properly be interpreted as asking the officer to leave. Was there probable cause? Certainly not once Gates identified himself and established this was his home and he clearly was not a buglar. At that point, as one of the commenters said, the officer should have said, sorry to have disturbed you, certainly you appreciate that we are concerned about the security of your home, and goodnight. Most likely Gates did get excited or "belligerent" (a rather subjective word). Who wouldn't under the circumstances? But that is where the officer lost it, as they often do. He couldn't handle his authority (and perhaps manhood) being challenged, so he used the authority vested in him, and decided to teach Prof. Gates a lesson. How often has that scenario been played out in this country between a white officer and black citizen? That is why black mothers teach their sons to be respectful of police no matter how stupid the police are being. Obviously Prof. Gates momentarily forgot that lesson, but being in his own home and having some prestige, he may have felt he could speak his mind without fear of retaliation. I guess he learned otherwise.
I wonder how our freedom loving Republican friends would like being arrested in their homes?
July 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't understand why a police officer going to a home to investigate a possible burglary would not use a computer to get DMV records of the resident (name and photo). Is there some privacy issue that would preclude that?
As to speaking respectfully to police officers: I think it is good sense to speak respectfully to everyone no matter if they are police (particularly stupid acting ones) or not and no matter if you are white, black or whatever. Just saves a lot of grief. I know that since the Jerry Springer Show it has been fashionable in America to get in people's faces when there is a disagreement but it really doesn't work out too well, most times. If you want a cop to leave your house calmly tell them to please leave and repeat as often as it takes the asshole to get the point.
July 24, 2009 3:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
After police confirmed that Mr. Gates was the homeowner, did they investigate whether or not he was alone in the home? There could indeed have been burglars inside.
Shame on the police if they assumed the homeowner was the burglar!
July 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Regardless of what he may feel, President Obama shouldn't have said the police department acted stupidly by arresting Professor Gates. The biggest problem was the manner in which he described his position, not that he came down on Gates' side. It just opened too big a distraction on the night he was making a big public statement about the health care plans.
July 23, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the one and only time conservatives will show concern over what happens here in the People's Republic of Cambridge, Taxachusetts.
July 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why aren't the idiot conservatives on Obama's side here? What could possibly be a more egregious example of "intrusive government" than this? Haven't they been wailing about the "Obama police state" in the making? Or are they too busy misundertanding the meaning of the Boston Tea Party to remember this is one of the things we fought a revolution over?
Whatabuncha freakbot hypocrits.
July 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama sounded much more reasonable and restrained today. Yes, it could and should have been resolved without arresting Gates. I still have trouble with the idea of people acting like the cops had no right to be there. Like they're not supposed to respond to 911 calls? "I call 9-1-1, they don't come correckt, I can lie here with a broken neck"
July 23, 2009 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you listened to what he actually said last night, Obama never said the police were wrong to investigate. Only that, once Gates had proved who he was (and that he did belong in his own house) that should have been the end of it.
July 23, 2009 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me add that "if you listen..." wasn't necessarily directed at you but at people mis-stating Obama's words.
July 23, 2009 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I phone 911 to report a potentially fatal car crash out in front of my house, that is not reason for a cop to come into my house and harass me. Similarly, when a neighbor calls 911 to report that a couple of black men pushed the door open in a house not their own, that is not reason for a cop to enter that house uninvited, insult the home owner, refuse to give out his name and badge number, and order that person to leave his house so he could be arrested. Obama was right in calling what the cop did acting stupidly. Actually, it was an understatement and a serious one. The better comment would have been that that cop acted illegally and the Justice Department was being ordered to investigate.
July 23, 2009 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cops have to make instantaneous, life-and-death decisions all the time and deserve the benefit of a doubt in many, many cases -- even a traffic stop is fraught with danger.
Not this one, though.
July 23, 2009 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Cambridge PD had the power in this situation and they misused it, badly. They arrested a guy in his own home. He wasn't high, drunk, making meth or kiddy porn. He just got a little angry [as I would have] at the stupidity of the situation.
And, I wouldn't be surprised if it was as much a townie/Harvard thing as anything racial. I'm not trying to minimize the racial aspect but want to throw that idea out there.
For full disclosure, I'm an alum of the night school, not the College, but the night school. And, I'm a little annoyed at how Gates has behaved now. He is not using this as a teaching moment, he is using this as a"Look at me" moment.
July 23, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well no one has ever accused Skip Gates of being a shrinking violet.
I agree, though, this could be as much town-gown as racial. (At least from the cop's perspective.) At least, reading through the comments on Boston.com make it seem that way.
July 23, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't care how much of an icehole hoity-toity Hahvard Professor Gates is. This was wrong, wrong, wrong. Talk about "teaching moment," this is one for the Cambridge police department, for police everywhere, and for Rethuglicans who cry tears about the Second Amendment all the while forgetting about the Fourth one.
July 23, 2009 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly, and what is the best way to do this? Gates has a tremendous opportunity to use the press to further what you say needs to be done. My comment is simply, he is screwing that opportunity up.
And, do you really think the rethuglicans will learn anything from this? They don't care and are probably enjoying the show . . .
July 23, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
AP just posted a story titled, "Cop who arrested black scholar is profiling expert".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_re_us/us_harvard_scholar_disorderly
According to the article, it seems that "Sgt. James Crowley has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black."
I'm not sure about the expert part. I mean the cop sees Gates' ID and doesn't know who he is? What kind of profiling expert class is that? I mean Crowley's comments seem temperate, he even professes to support the President 110%. But the photo of Gates in cuffs being arrested in his own house just flies in the face of temperate behavior.
By the way, Ware Street, the block that Gates lives on, is basically part of the Harvard campus. It is only one block long. Virtually ALL the housing on that block is owned by Harvard and that means anyone who lives in that housing is either a student or faculty.
So the big question remains. Who did the good Sargeant think he was arresting and why?
July 23, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
He knows he screwed up. But no cop will EVER admit that, nor will his buddies, nor will the union. The Blue Wall always holds.
July 23, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Saying someone acted stupidly is not calling someone stupid. Stupid behavior means rash behavior or immature or inexperienced behavior. Besides, the police already admitted it was a mistake when they dropped the charges.
It seems the police believe they are due the same deference as a judge. They are not judges.
July 23, 2009 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought that this was a pretty interesting segment from the show, Morning Meeting on MSNBC.
Plus, a good little commentary to go with it.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2260
July 23, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Stupidly" may very well have been intended as a charitable description meant to lightly chastise such abusive behavior by the police. Lamentably, in our "back the badge" culture which forbids even the slightest criticism of cops, the term rubbed the wrong way.
July 23, 2009 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Stupidly" describes the police action. No reason to walk that back.
I agree this was chosen as a moderate term. The cops weren't being accused of racism, just stupidity.
Once you find out the guy owns the house, you listen to the rant and walk away. You don't roust the professor, cuff him and get his mugshot on TV just because his hollering pissed you off. That is stupid.
July 23, 2009 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was recently called for jury duty. When they showed me the witnesss list and I saw that the state's witnesses were all police officers, I told the judge if it came down to an issue of police officer credibility I would have trouble believing the police witnesses. The Judge was incredulous and started pressing me to explain. As soon as I started giving examples of police perjury, he got flustered and told me I was poisoning the jury. Needless to say, I was quickly excused, but it goes to show the ingrained habit of thinking everythign the police say is the truth and the whole truth.
July 23, 2009 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The police work was patently incompetent and over-the-top. The racial factor was most likely in play. But Obama was tone deaf when he used the word "stupid." He just outfitted the foe with more munitions to use against him and fill the air with flak. You knew the moment he made that statement what the results would be. He could have turned the answer into a positive tactical move, but he blundered, plain and simple.
July 23, 2009 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"acted stupidly"
July 23, 2009 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Crowley teaches profiling. I have two responses.
1) So what.
2) He sure does.
July 24, 2009 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
A white Harvard professor insults a black cop who came to investigate a reported robbery, calls him all those names, etc., is taken to the police station.
How many hours till he is forced to resign his position?
July 24, 2009 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, white Harvard professor gets black cop fired.
July 24, 2009 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFL.
July 24, 2009 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just watched the presser at noontime. It was a little shocking. Very disparaging of Professor
Gates. Question. Since Gates is clearly an international scholar and travels a lot, does he now have to check "yes" when he goes thru customs or whatever, and has to fill out forms asking if
he were ever arrested? He's now as good as a common criminal (in the eyes of some).
July 24, 2009 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think folk are overlooking how this incident evolved. A man in his late 50's comes home after traveling many hours from China. If it were me, I would be tired and cranky. I find my front door jammed shut. This makes me even crankier. I finally get that door to open with the help of the cab driver. Then this police officer shows up at my door wanting me to step out and identify myself. On one level I should be appreciative that someone is looking out to protect my property. Then again I am tired and cranky. Now if you add the complexity of a black male having to always be challenged (aka driving while black, shopping while black, etc) you could understand Gates' reaction. Although I was not there I could appreciate that the officer did not appreciate Gates' hostile reaction. He made the choice to arrest Gates for being belligerent while on his own property. Gates was not really a threat to the police or the public. Once it was established that Gates was the homeowner that should have ended it. I cannot say if the police officer's reaction was one of male ego, class or race, but a combination of all 3, but I think the disorderly conduct arrest was a wasteful exercise of police power.
July 24, 2009 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink