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Obama: Stimulus Designed To Work Over Two Years -- Not Four Months
In this weekend's YouTube address, President Obama answered stimulus opponents who say that it has not restored the economy -- as well as those who say it didn't go far enough -- by saying that it has saved the economy from greater disaster, and calling for patience:

"But, as I made clear at the time it was passed, the Recovery Act was not designed to work in four months - it was designed to work over two years," said Obama. "We also knew that it would take some time for the money to get out the door, because we are committed to spending it in a way that is effective and transparent. Crucially, this is a plan that will also accelerate greatly throughout the summer and the fall. We must let it work the way it's supposed to, with the understanding that in any recession, unemployment tends to recover more slowly than other measures of economic activity."

Cantor: "This is now President Obama's Economy"
In this weekend's Republican address, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) blasted President Obama and Congressional Democrats for producing a stimulus program that he said has failed to create jobs:

"In fact, they said that unemployment would stay under eight percent. Yet just months later, they are telling us to brace for unemployment to climb over ten percent," said Cantor. "They promised jobs created. Now they scramble to find a way to play games with government numbers by claiming jobs saved. Simply put, this is now President Obama's economy and the American people are beginning to question whether his policies are working."

Obama's Day In Ghana
President Obama spent the day in Ghana. At 5:30 a.m. ET (9:30 a.m. local time), he met with Ghanaian President John Atta Mills, with an expanded meeting at 6:15 a.m. ET. AT 7 a.m. ET, President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama attended an event on maternal health. At 8:40 a.m. ET, Obama delivered remarks to the Ghanian Parliament. At 10:50 a.m. ET, the Obamas met with Head Chief Osabarima Kwesi Atta II. At 11:15 a.m. ET, the First Family toured the Cape Coast Castle, a former depot of the slave trade, and Obama spoke at 11:45 a.m. ET. At 1:50 p.m. ET, the Obamas will attend a departure ceremony, and 2:45 p.m. ET they will fly back to the United States.

No Biden Events Today
Vice President Biden is spending the weekend in Wilmington, Delaware. He does not have any public events scheduled for today.

Obama To African Countries: Western Aid Must Be Matched By Good Governance
In his speech today to Ghana's parliament, President Obama called on African leaders to provide better governance, along with aid from the Western governments. "Development depends upon good governance," said Obama. "That is the ingredient which has been missing in far too many places, for far too long. That is the change that can unlock Africa's potential. And that is a responsibility that can only be met by Africans."

Obama Visits Former Slave Trade Depot
Also during his trip to Ghana, President Obama visited a former depot of the transatlantic slave trade, the Cape Coast Castle. Obama said that a lesson can be drawn from it: "As painful as it is, I think that it helps to teach all of us that we have to do what we can to fight against the kinds of evils that sadly still exist in our world, not just on this continent but in every corner of the globe."

NYT: Path To SCOTUS Is To Speak Capably And Say Little
The New York Times reports that the Sotomayor hearings will likely follow a familiar and time-honored path: The Senators will try to grill the nominee on issues after issue, and the nominee will aim to speak well but say little of actual substance on those controversial matters. "It will be a slightly different cast of characters performing a set piece drama we have seen many times before," said David J. Garrow, a University of Cambridge historian.

Report: Dem Congress Loses Millions In Ponzi Scheme
Freshman Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) has reportedly lost $3 million in a Ponzi scheme, which operated from 2000 to 2005. Grayson will probably still be okay, as his financial disclosure forms during the 2008 campaign reported assets worth more than $25 million.


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Al Franken to Reprise SNL Role as Senator Paul Simon in Sotomayor Hearings
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=7791

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Here's another hearty STFU.

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Can we all click the "Report Abuse" button on all of these? Would that do anything or is everyone already doing that to no avail?

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Doing it too ...

C'mon TPM help us out here.

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i've been clicking report abuse since forever on this d-bag.

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I understand the stimulus needs time to work- but even after all the money is dispersed (in two years) we are still looking at an estimated shortfall of around 5.5 million jobs- and that's just estimated jobs lost. Every month hundreds of thousands of new job-seekers start looking, as well. We are not accounting for them either.

We need more stimulus- the economy is NOT going to right itself until we not only make up for the jobs lost in this 'recession' but also start keeping up with the new job-seekers arriving onto the scene. When we start creating jobs that roughly keep up with the newbies- then we'll be healthy again.

Unfortunately, that hasn't happended in a long, long time- doesn't make it any more right or any less of a problem, though. Our jobs situation has been sick for a long time (since shortly after W. took office) and has really helped explode this can of worms we are all living. Make it right, elected officials.

Oh, and while your at how about raising our wages, eh? Productivity to earnings have been (essentially) flat since '79. Work it out.

Adding 3.5 million jobs over two years- simply isn't going to help our recovery. I think the much over-used analogy of a band-aid on a gunshot wound is apt. Adding 100,000 jobs here and there over several months when we are losing 150,000 jobs a month or more- doesn't cut it. Not by a longshot.

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Keep saying it Obama, because the media is doing a great job of convincing people that you should have fixed the economy already. A crisis that's been coming for many years should have been fixed yesterday.

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On a personal note: I was making $12.50 an hour as an Enrollment Counselor at a University before being laid off in November. I just took a job making $8.50 as a custodian (haven't taken a job that low in over ten years, and that was in high school).

That's the real economy, even those lucky enough to get a job (like me) are facing huge cuts in income. I call that deflation, as in no recovery. None.

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I'm sorry to hear about your job loss, josephcast.

Here in CT, state workers are being asked to take furlough days and to pay more for health coverage. But at least layoffs have been avoided. For now.

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Thanks, CT. I have taken drastic action to stay on an even course. I moved out of the big city after my job loss, found a job with an old employer (from back in college), and relocated to a smaller city (college town) where my expenses have been cut in half. So far it is working out okay.

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Here in Hawaii, the Republican governor and the state worker unions (which are so bad as to make me reconsider my support for labor) are conspiring to create a collosal screwup. The guv unilaterally decided that the only way to solve the budget shortfall was to furlough all state workers three days a month (and since she can't control education directly, simply ordered the schools and university system to cut their budgets by 15%). The unions challenged it and got it overturned in court, and are now looking at 2500 layoffs. Great work all around.

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All unions (for state workers) belong to one large collective bargaining coalition, and the majority of the individual unions were more than willing to make concessions regarding furloughs, health care, and retirement benefits, because everyone felt that if we didn't, big layoffs were going to happen. There were two unions in the coalition that were unwilling to go along, because both believed they wouldn't get touched by layoffs. Fortunately, as I said, the majority voted to make the concessions, and when it was put to a membership vote, the members of the individual unions voted overwhelmingly to make the concessions. And we're not experiencing layoffs. Yet. Governor Rell isn't unreasonable, either, which helps significantly.

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Tim Pawlenty, not so much.

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Obama better start spending some time at home. Too many foreign trips and too many foreign wars.

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Yes sir, Representative Cantor.

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groan!

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Sorry, I forgot that mindless, troglodyte-quality cheap shots were okay if they come from nominal "progressives."

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yawn.

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I thought you were funny.

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That's right Mr. Prezedent, stop starting all them durn forn wars. And stop thinking wur in one of dem global economies where you have to talk to them forners.

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Cantor and his ilke are just trying to find purchase in a World that has discovered the repub's are ineffective liars...Looking for Any port in a storm or more likely some spagetti to stick to the wall ---any wet noodle!

Not working --- fools all...

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Sneer all you like, you liberal elitist, enough already with the world tour. It's state fair time. Let him get sculpted in butter.

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Why are you here? I thought that the loonies on the right were the only ones who were xenophobic, angry at the rest of the world, and not understanding that the sandbox has grown--to include the rest of the world. State fairs? You mean pig races and obese people wolfing down cotton candy wearing Confederate flag shirts? No thanks, but have fun, and don't get dizzy on the Tilt A' Whirl. In the meantime, it's nice to have a President who actually thinks it's good for American to have a leader who is also a world leader, versus a laughing stock despised by the entire globe. But, if you liked the Bush brand of foreign policy, God bless you. And pass the Coke.

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Honey, who do you think elected the guy? All those rubes in Iowa and Minnesota and Illinois and Ohio....

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So, what is your point? I doubt people in Chicago or Minneapolis think themselves "rubes." What are you saying? That rednecks voted him in? Sorry, you are plain wrong on that.

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Our stature in the world needs a lot of work after "frat boy's" efforts. We may just need to get some international interdependence going to get out of this hole. Are you seriously suggesting that Obama's time would be better utilized going to state fairs?

If his meeting in Russia manages to deep-six the idiotic "Star Wars" Program, we could fund health care just from what we save from that alone.


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Yes, I am. He's going to sell healthcare to the Pope? He better dance with the folks who brung 'em.

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Get snappy, Mr. Blackie, black and nappy. Hoooboy, you sound like a slave owner, mammy. You sound like you think you own that boy.

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wow. that's unnecessary. and well off the mark.

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i'm as pessimistic as anyone about obama's efforts on real health care reform, but if obama spends as much of his time in office tending to international relations (building or re-building those relations) as W spent on naps and vacations i think he can still fill up his calendar with domestic affairs and be ahead of the game.

suggesting he ought to be going to state fairs and meeting with 'real people' instead of going to foreign countries and meeting with heads of state just sounds too much like the phony republican line about obama trying to do too much, as if we should expect a president to be careful not to try walking and chewing gum at the same time.

i'm definitely not a member of the obama cult who has faith in some grand design that only the all-seeing obama administration can comprehend, but i do think that the big push on health care by obama and the administration is probably scheduled for getting the bills passed after they get out of committee. public opinion is already on the side of a public option. obama beating the drum at state fairs right now isn't going to help get anything done in the committees.

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Well, I guarantee you Chuck Grassley isn't going to miss the Iowa State Fair.

Sorry so many people are clueless about the midwest but not only is that where the people go in July and August, it's where the politicians go because it's also where the local news media goes.

Of course, attendance may be down because people cannot afford to take their kids to the fair. Maybe the politicians will get an ear full about that too! They sure do need it!

What I'm saying is that it makes no difference at all what Obama does abroad if he can't fix things at home. He will have no credibility abroad.

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Well, I guarantee you Chuck Grassley isn't going to miss the Iowa State Fair.

So? What a ridiculous argument - even for you.

I agree that Obama needs to start getting out in front of the healthcare debate and making his case directly to the people, but to imply (as you have) that he should ignore his other duties is just off the mark.

What I'm saying is that it makes no difference at all what Obama does abroad if he can't fix things at home. He will have no credibility abroad.

You got any links to back that up? Can you please point me in the direction of some international coverage that questions Obama's credibility due to the healthcare debate in this country?

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btw: Iowa State Fair begins August 13.

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Mr. Cantor? I know this will be hard, but stop lying, ok?

In February, Romer predicted that the rate of unemployment would rise above 8%.

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Eric Canter is an oily weasel, and oily weasels can't be expected to tell the truth. He is an embarrassment to most of us Virginians.

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"But, as I made clear at the time it was passed, the Recovery Act was not designed to work in four months - it was designed to work over two years," said Obama.

Just in terms of public statements and framing I feel like he could have made this clearer earlier, or perhaps not been so forcibly optimistic about the economy beginning to turn around (in a way that might later undercut his ability to ask for more stimulus, because didn't he just say the first stimulus was working great?).

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I agree. I don't recall, when the stimulus bill was being pushed, the notion that it was going to take two years to go into effect. If this is what he's saying, now, he needs to say it a lot more, because it's getting drowned out in the din of Republican and media whining and the drip drip drip of bad employment numbers.

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It might be easier for you to recall if he spent more time at home talking about it.

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I don't have problems with the fact that he's traveling, and repairing the image of our country in the process. You sound like a conservative pundit, bluebell, and I know you're not.

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I'm pretty sure he said repeatedly that we wouldn't see things turning around until at least 2010, maybe 2011. Unemployment is always the last indicator to tank and stay tanked, because of the lag. BTW, Obama has extended unemployment benefits for lots of people about to lose them.

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For months, his mantra was "things are going to get worse before they get better." Then every whined and moan that he wasn't being optimistic enough. Now, everyone's whining and moaning that he didn't warn us things were going to get worse.

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Exactly! I remember people jumping on him because they thought his message about things taking a long time to take effect would makes things worse. I know some of the ARRA funds haven't even been spent yet because, um, there is a process in place to make sure they are spent the intended way. People just want to bitch.

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The problem is those funds still aren't going to be enough. A shortfall of 5.5 million jobs is not the road to recovery.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/bruce-bartlett-misstates-the-problem/

You see the problem is Romer and Bernstein thought we wouldn't hit 9% unemployment until Q1 of 2010. Well we're now at 10%- a place they didn't think we'd ever reach. All this means we are much worse off than expected. We need to start taking this into account now or we're going to be at 7.5% unemployment or worse in 2012 just in time for the elections, that's how we are trending now. Does that sound good to you?

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Of course it doesn't sound good. What do you recommend? Krugman is only one voice. Give me a handful of other economists and they all say something different. The sad truth is no one knows what will work the fastest because we've never been in this spot before. There's no quick fix and there's no magic bullet. I am sorry about your job situation. My business is down 30% and I've lost 40% of my retirement. Times are hard. I know this sounds awful, because I have kids in their 20s, but, this generation (18-30) has never seen anything but boom. This is what bust feels like. It stinks, for sure, but it's not the end of the world. Hang in there. Hope things pick up for you.

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I never seen a boom in my life. Wages have been stagnant since 1979. Give me a break. Good luck to you as well.

I'm not saying I have any answers, but to do nothing is no good. What's been done isn't enough we lost waaaay more jobs than expected. Now, do more- more stimulus, make that 7.5% more like 4.5% or 3.5% and then we'll be cooking for 2012.

Answer: more jobs, and pay the workers well. Start stirring that pot for more stimulus now.

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'everyone'?? really?

i don't recall their being the sort of consensus that you want to imply.

i seem to remember plenty of people who have said all along that he was painting an unrealistically optimistic picture.

and i guess i also remember a few people who said he was being too gloomy, but i never really understood their argument.

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Freshman Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) has reportedly lost $3 million in a Ponzi scheme...

Boy, I'd LOVE to lose $3 million on ANY investment.  Currently I can only aspire to such (mis)fortune...

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Huh, isn't that the guy Matt Stoller of OpenLeft went to work for?

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The Republicans voted against the stimulus bill now they are griping that it isn't working fast enough. Their great idea was to cut spending (in the middle of a deep recession!!) The Republicans wanted to follow Bush's plan for addressing unemployment--stay in denial and do nothing about it. If Bush had moved on the recession a year ago we would be in better shape by now. Instead he waited until after the election in November to admit that we had been in a recession since January 2008.

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Very good points, Debra. Good perspective.

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Amazing how we've now transitioned directly from the recession that Clinton caused to the recession that Obama caused.

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And before that we had the 3 recessions that Carter caused in the 80s, and the recession that LBJ caused in the mid 70s, and the 3 recessions that Ike inherited from Truman in the 50s.

Actually if you look at in only 2 of the 10 post war recession began during Dem administrations (the 1948 recession and the 1980 recession) - the other 8 began under Repugs. And if you discount that 1948 recession because of the impacts of the end of WWII you are looking at 1 in 9. Remarkable considering that Dems have been in the WH for as 43% of the time but only been in office for 20% of the recessions while Repugs have been in there 57% of the time had had 80% of the recessions. You know, just saying

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I remain amazed when republicans stand up and claim to be for small business owners. The reality couldn't be farther from that. They care for the big money people only.

What two things would help small businesses thrive:

1. Universal health care -- unrelated to one's employment. To take that onus away from a potential small employer would start a real age of entrepreneurism in our country. I know, because I thought about starting my own business myself, and I simply couldn't do it because of insurance issues. Many people say the same thing.

2. Credit availability. It is a circular effect. If small businesses began to move, credit would open up and more businesses could get going.

In other words, #2 comes AFTER #1, and depends on it as well.

Republicans will never vote for this because they don't want Democrats to get credit for it. Why didn't they do it when they had all the power? Because they didn't care!

Well, they care now, but only in a negative way.

For some fun, go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Psfn6iOfS8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehuffingtonpost%2Ecom%2F2009%2F07%2F12%2Fauto%2Dtune%2Dthe%2Dnews%2Dtakes%5Fn%5F230192%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded

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