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After Meeting With "Gang Of Six" White House Says It Would Be Open To Co-ops

The White House was pretty mum after President Obama's meeting yesterday with the "Gang of Six" bipartisan health care negotiators on the Senate Finance Committee. But the first words leaking out won't please health care reformers.

In an interview with Bloomberg, Nancy-Ann DeParle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform says Obama would sign off on a privately run co-operative system, in lieu of a public option, if it increased competition in the insurance market.

"We would be interested in that," DeParle said.

In the past, Obama's suggested that he has no theoretical objection to the co-op structure, as long as it serves as a mechanism for keeping insurance companies honest, just as a public option would. But DeParle's new rubric appears to be much less stringent. And coming as it does a day after Obama met with the bipartisan group that may determine the fate of health care reform, proponents of the public option may have reason to worry.


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Well...this is interesting. Rahm tells us to back off ads on democrats against health care reform and if this report is true, no public option? WTF!!

Hope and change is getting dimmer folks!

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Co-ops would not be change at all. Maybe they mean they would allow states to administer co-ops but only in addition to the "public option." At least I hope that's what they meant.

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Sorry, guys, but co-ops defeat the purpose of the reform bill. They keep the insurance companies' hand in the till. They also remove the risk for the insurance companies, since the government is going to assume it.

All the co-ops do is provide a place for the insurance companies to send their 'uninsurable' (read "people who actually require health care and file claims"). Count on the co-ops to be administered by the insurance companies and demand massive deductibles.

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I am not at all sure that this is a change in policy in the first place. As far as I know there is no evidence that co-ops (whatever they actually MIGHT turn out to be in the Finance Bill!) will meet the stated goal

Sleeve out of vest it sounds like to me

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makes me so f#%^&#$ mad.....

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They've said these things before.

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One Sen from MT, ND and NMex on the dems side and One Sen from IA, WY and ME on ReTHUGIANS side will derail health care reform for all Americans. How fuckin crazy is this that these six from the some of the smallest states will drive health care reform into the ground. If the WH has signed onto to killing real reform, guess what will happen to the rest of Obama's agenda. ABSOLUELY NOTHING! Energy, education, EFCA, DADT, GITMO, IRAQ will be battles lost as well. If was fun while it lasted and what a shame! America is no longer a free country but a corporate run whore machine! FUCK IT!

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I'm ready to scream. Where's Howard Dean? Howard I think America may finally be ready for you in 2012.

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Howard Dean for Montana Senate!

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We're so fucked it's ridiculous.

Seriously, it's time for all of us DFH's to just throw in the fucking towel.

John

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i wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't said just to try to help the finance committee to get some type of bill out so they can move to the next stage, then this idea can be dropped.

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Exactly. Who gives a shit what the Senate does. The House can pass the "good" bill and push it through reconciliation.

a guy can dream anyway...

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They will lose the people fighting for reform if they sell is out for phony coops.

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Unless he dances with them who brung him Obama will be a one term President. This is not a water under the bridge problem. Sweeping single payer off the table and caving on the public option reeks of betrayal.

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What. The. Fuck.

Sold out. After all that work during the primaries and election season.

Fuck this. I'm done. Let it all go to shit. I just don't care anymore. Not another fucking cent to these sellouts. I may even work for the republicans just to hasten the demise of the US.

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hey, that's the spirit.

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Yes. It is. I'm not going to fight for something when the shit heads I'm fighting for give away everything. It's fucking demoralizing and it shows cowardice on their part.

Fuck. Them.

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no single payer.

and now no public option.

Yet the mandates will stay in? Why wouldn't the insurance industry be all for mandates, a cap on bargaining etc. Obama, who was always too centrist for me, is seeming more nad more corporate.

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What's up with the nastiness? They've said this before. No one's noticed? How many times have we seen:

Reconciliation still on the table
public option in
public option out
reconciliation out
deadline set
deadlines don't matter
WH says lay off Dems
WH not saying to lay off Dems
Reid rips republicans
Reid caves to republicans

Over and over, the same headlines. Up, down, up, down.

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Jesus christ, people. Rather than acting on the basis of a second-hand blog distillation of a journalistic paraphrase of what was said by a second-tier official, why don't you at least go read the actual goddamned story in the link before you light off the indignation rockets?

What's being said in the story is a lot more complex and nuanced than is portrayed here.

You may be just as unhappy after you read the actual story, but don't you think you should at least read the actual journalistic paraphrase of what was said by a second-tier official before you declare yourselves betrayed?

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You may be just as unhappy after you read the actual story

You're right. I am just as unhappy. Nothing in that article made me confident that the Democrats are going to pass anything meaningful, i.e., beneficial to us non-corporations.

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Well, damn. It sucks that they're not tending to your feelings properly. But instead of looking for reasons to feel betrayed, one might consider that their actual objective is to get a bill passed by Congress, not sooth the suspicions and feeding the emotional needs of bloggers and commenters.

And considering it from that perspective, and putting oneself in the shoes of a smart politician trying to accompish that objective, one posit that what we have here is a put up or shut up moment for the so-called "moderate" Republicans in the making.

As do all of us.

The Republicans made it absolutely clear that they have no interest in fixing health care and that their sole objective is to engineer a poltical failure for the administration. It's not like we out here in Bloggerville have some monopoly on that insight that has eluded the rose-colored-glasses dullards in the White House and Congress. They know that there is no concession they can make that will get any Republicans other than, possibly, the Ladies of Maine to vote for the bill. Obama knows that. Emmanuel knows that. Reid knows that. Pelosi knows it too.

At this point, even Conrad and Baucus must be coming to grips with that realization in the rare moments of lucidity when their raging case of Stockholm Syndrome eases its grip.

The only people who don't seem to understand what's happening are the Broderoids in the Village MSM and about fifty Blue Dogs in both houses. So if they're going to ram this thing through without Republican votes--and they are--they've got to force said Blue Dogs and Broderoids to accept and acknowledge what we already know--there's no concession that the Democrats can make that will get Republicans to vote for this bill.

And that means calling the Republicans' bluff. Absolutely can't vote on a bill with a public option? Fine. One of the six bills that come out of the two houses won't have one. Can you get behind it now? No? Didn't think so. See guys? We gave in on one of our most important things that they insisted was the sine qua non and still they won't vote for it.

Do I know for a fact that's what's going on? No. But I know it's what I'd do. It's a tatic I have used more than once when I know the other side isn't bargaining in good faith but I've got to prove it to someone else, like a client, or mediator or a judge.

What I do know is that six bills will come out of the committees with jurisdiction and at least five of them will have a public option.

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Don't you think that asking for rational thought is a tad unreasonable?

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Thank you counselor. A Republican global wamring denier was trying to tell me yesterday that the strongly worded letter to Obama from the Dem senators about Cap and Trade spelled it's death knell. He was relieved because he thinks the weak tea in the Cap and Trade bill will kill American industry.

This is what I told him: Here's how it works. Obama has Hillary play nice with the Chinese. Then he gets Senate Dems to send him a public hardball letter he can wave at the Chinese when they meet in Copenhagen and ask for the other half of the farm Bush didn't give away. You should hold your fire for the inevitable agreement when no matter happens the right will say he sold us out.

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I will be clear, no public option, all of you have a bullseye on your asses. ESPECIALLY you Mr. President, ESPECIALLY you.

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Don't you think you might want to clarify that remark in a way that doesn't make it a matter for the Secret Service?

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