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Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)

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Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) held a packed town hall meeting on health care in her district yesterday afternoon, with special guest Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX), with hundreds of people turning out on a weekday afternoon from both sides -- with a lot of interesting stuff said by everyone

Bachmann and Burgess took questions from people both in favor and opposed to President Obama on health care. On multiple occasions, Bachmann thanked all the people who turned out, regardless of where they are on the issues, because they care about the direction of the country -- and it really sounded like she meant it with all sincerity.

And things sure were interesting, with talk about whether the Obama administration will ever leave office, whether Bachmann has given birth more times than a male questioner -- and whether Republicans could have supported a public options in exchange for a carrot to call their own.

Here's the whole video, courtesy of The Uptake:

At about 39:30, a man got up and discussed his fear of the Obama administration: "You know I'm not a racist, I'm not a right wing extremist. I have conservative Christian values. (Applause) and again you know I'm just fundamental middle class guy. But here's my question, and I'm sure people some people will say he's this, he's that, he's a nut -- and I'm not. My concern is this: I'm concerned that after four years of the current admin, or possibly a second term of years, I have concerns that, to be frank, that they may not leave the White House. I believe that they whether by force (scattered boos) I know you don't want to hear this (people boo over him) I have concern that with this health care program goes our very freedom. And if you can't see that, then I'm sorry."

After the man finished asking Bachmann about this, she thanked him for his work as a school teacher and for his concerns. "That is my concern, too, -- freedom," said Bachmann. "That is what this country is founded on - is freedom. And I'm very concerned about the federal government coming in and taking over over 18% of the private economy." Bachmann then discussed the bailouts and government takeovers -- but never contradicted this man or talked him down from his fear that Obama may try to stay in office by force.

At the 44:00 mark, a man got into a very lively argument with Bachmann over her repeated assertion that America has the best health care system the world has ever known. Bachmann held up headlines from the United Kingdom, warning against horror stories of women having to give birth in hospital hallways due to bed shortages. And she got in a very snappy comeback. "I've given birth probably more times than you, sir," she said to massive laughter and applause.

At 1:17:00, a woman got in a very heated argument with Bachmann over the Congresswoman's belief that people should be able to purchase their own health insurance in a deregulated, competitive market. The woman countered that she can't shop around and know which conditions will get her coverage cancelled down the road: "How do you do that, how do you shop around? Tell me how you do that?" Bachmann said, "contract law is your friend," and that if the insurance company slams the door then you have an actionable complaint against them -- to which the woman responded that the companies can out-lawyer her, and that Bachmann is for tort reform.

In a very interesting moment, at 1:26:00, Burgess seemed to say that Republicans could have supported a public option, in a bipartisan compromise: "I got invited down to the White House for a photo op in March, and that's been it - that's been it. So this has not been -- there has not been the open invitation. If you want me to be part of this bill, put tort reform on the table, and say, okay Doctor, you've got to take mandates, you've got to take the public option, but we'll give you tort reform and that is in there. (Applause) So all I know is, is my vote has been no, but they never even tried, they never even tried."

Is this true? Could the GOP have ever supported the public option, in exchange for a victory of their own?

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August 28, 2009 12:05 PM   

That's fascinating, and completely unbelievable.

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August 28, 2009 12:25 PM   

Since the last (truly criminal) adminstration left office voluntarily on Jan 20, 2009, the questioner's inquiry (stupid as it is) has been answered!

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August 28, 2009 12:35 PM   

Is this true? Could the GOP have ever supported the public option, in exchange for a victory of their own?

I love your dry sense of humor, Eric. I really do.

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August 28, 2009 12:38 PM   

Just goes to show that the Minnesotans who post here and explain that most of her district is as batshit-crazy as she is are spot on.

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August 28, 2009 2:07 PM    in reply to junkmailqueen

Not most. Just a critical mass of wingnuts.

Put her up against a solid Dem who knows how to campaign, with no third-party candidates, and she's going down.

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August 28, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to junkmailqueen

Her town meeting actually got pretty good TV coverage. She came off batty as usual but willing to take questions from both sides.


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August 28, 2009 12:46 PM   

Does Burgess understand that his own state's tort reform hasn't been successful?

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August 28, 2009 12:48 PM   

When I left public insurance coverage (my military duty), my wife had a preexisting condition (pregnant). I was unable to buy insurance coverage for her pregnancy, or the care of my unborn child, from any private insurance company, and it was excluded from the group coverage provided by my employer.

We went to the hospital where we expected to deliver and paid the expected normal delivery fee in advance. When she went into labor two months later, the hospital denied us entry. I had my bank statement showing $8,500 balance. They still denied us entry. We asked to talk to the hospital administrator. With my wife seated in his office, in labor, I informed him we were comfy there and did not intend to leave until the baby was born. He changed his mind. Fortunately, we had no further problems.

Do I favor a public option, plus all of the other provisions in HELP committee bill? What do you think? Thanks, Michelle, but you really do live on another planet.

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August 28, 2009 12:51 PM   

This lady gives me the heebeegeebees. Pls no more closeups.

Thanks.

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August 28, 2009 2:31 PM   

Howard Dean gave a good answer to the Tort reform question at the recent Northern Virginia town hall, in which he pointed out that to include tort refomrm in the current health reform would probably not have garnered a single additional vote in either the House or the Senate.

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August 28, 2009 3:22 PM   

A separate point, but probably the most germane to the potential for this continuing experiment in whether a self governing democracy can work long term: why is it that Michele and Michael are able to have an hour plus peaceful and balanced discussion of a pending issue for legislation? Is it because they have a stated position in opposition? Meaning that a group of opponents to health care reform are prepared to deny a peaceful and balanced discussion at a town forum hosted by any elected representative of the people who is thought to be in support of the legislation?

This is not democracy, folks. This is not free speech. This is thugs. If you have an opposing view on this issue, you are scum to them. They will shout you down, if possible. Intimidate you with guns and other forms of threatened or actual violence. Lie to gain adherents. Their motivation is a selection or mix of racism, ignorance, greed, "religious" fervor, whatever their handlers can use to trip their switches. Note again: they are not at Michele's town hall. This is not an accident. Their purpose is solely to intimidate any Senator or Representative who might support health care reform.

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August 28, 2009 6:26 PM   

You know I'm not a racist, I'm not a right wing extremist. I have conservative Christian values.

Conservative Christian values is Republican code for I'm a racist right wing extremist who lies a lot.

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August 28, 2009 9:33 PM   

Please, please...Someone explain to me how Obama wanting affordable, real health insurance for people means he intends to turn the US into his dictatorship. I honestly don't get it.

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August 28, 2009 9:53 PM    in reply to Kuyleh

God knows everything, and then He tells Michele Bachmann, and then she tells us.

Get it now?

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August 28, 2009 10:26 PM    in reply to sunnysteve

Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

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