Is The White House Ready To Ditch Republicans And Turn to Reconciliation?

It's about time!!!

If this video doesn't get people to see the true agenda of Fox News, I don't know if anything will. Neil Cavuto basically says Obama's moral obligation should be protecting America's wealth, not the health of all Americans.

These people are unbelievable.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2640

More importantly, any plan that would receive significant GOP votes would be a bad bill. Cost control needs to be a central component of any effective health care reform bill, which is why a robust public option is so critical.

Brian, as you say, these are rumblings. So how can you write a news headline that says "White House to GOP: Were going to do reform with or without you".

Something's not right about journalism if journalists take a leap when the subjects of a story haven't.

This is only my opinion, I could be wrong. Just seems off.

How can you possibly negotiate with people who say you are going to kill their grandma? Slapping nut sacks across your face is not an opposition plan.

Chris, copyright your talking point and mail it to all the Dems!

Theme : The public health is a fundamental human right.

1. When the public health is also one of commodity like a house, we come to a tragic and unthinkable conclusion : As to for-profit business, the more ill patients get, the more profits they make.

Under the most wasteful structure on the planet like no coordinated preventive care program waiting until people get ill, a pay for each and every service reimbursement and frequent readmissions, no e-medical record and deaths, crushing litigations and the more profits via the unnecessary procedures, and the most inefficient paper billing systems imaginable, overpriced pharmaceuticals, bloated insurance companies, medial fraud, exorbitant costs by the tragic ER visits etc, it might be no wonder with the expansive, systematic reform in the pipeline, just one attitude of patient-oriented value in 10 regions has attained 16% of savings in Medicare while their quality scores are well above average.

Aside from the already allocated $583 billion and the savings of this reform package, 16% of $923.5bn (the combined Medicare and Medicaid cost per year, as of July) is around $147.76bn per year and 1.4776trillion over the next decade, and this patient-oriented value alone could be enough to meet the goal.

Please be 'sure' to visit http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?hp for credible evidences !

Today, another innovative, fundamental change in payment system, or patient's outcome based payment reform that is able to turn the profit-oriented malpractices and volume into the patient-oriented value and quality is waiting for a final decision.

2. The savings via removing wastes turn into limit to medical access, rationing, tax raise, and deficit etc via the irresponsible lies.

Unlike high fuel price and mortgage rate in recent years as the roots of great recession and bankruptcy of middle class, the severity in the high cost of health premiums has come to light lately. Similarly, in an attempt to hide these painful corruptions & wastes, the greed allies struggle to turn the savings via removing these wastes into limit to medical access, rationing, tax raise, and deficit etc.

In contrast, not to mention a wide range of consumer protection, this promising reform takes initiatives in more primary care docs and improved long-term care. Unnecessarily, hope should not be replaced with fear, just like people don't have to fear quitting drug.


3. Under the free market theory and the premise that the public health is also one of commodity like a house, if the demand decreases on a large scale, accordingly the price tends to reflect it, as in the case of house price, and it never happens for the price to spiral up. One step forward, in case the price is spiraling up, to be sure, the remaining clients should withdraw the contract or choose the other options. Sadly, no way-out other than the prohibitive ER is allowed in America. Therefore, the victims today and tomorrow deserve long overdue protection from non-profit Government.

4. When some part of our body is ailing seriously, we are going to lose competitiveness, equally, when some part of a nation is ailing servery, it is going to loose competitiveness, too.

5. Unlike the original financial concern over recovery from Catrina catastrophe, the recovery work is going smooth with no big problem, to my knowledge. The last thing to want would be for this health Catrina to be left untreated. And there is enough room for savings from the unsustainable wastes.

6. Equation (By decade) & the flower of this reform !

$1.042trillion (cost of reform) + $245bn (cost to reflect annual pay raise of docs) = $1.287bn (actual cost of reform).

$583bn (the revenue package) + $80bn (so-called doughnut hole) + $155bn (savings from hospitals) + $167bn (ending the unnecessary subsidies for insurers) + 129bn(mandate-related fine) + $277bn (ending medical fraud, a minimum of 3% , the combined Medicare and Medicaid cost of $923.5bn per year, as of July,) = $1.391trillion + the reduced cost of ER visits (Medicare covers some 40% of the total) + the tax code on the wealthiest more reduced than originally proposed = why not ? (except for a magic pill, an outcome-based payment reform & IT effects and so forth).

Additionally, the last thing to expect, no e-medial record(under a fee for each and every service payment, hospitals are resistant to introduce IT system) , is happening now in the sector requiring the best accuracy in terms of dealing with human lives, which leads to a shocking portion of risk-carrying duplicate tests, fatal errors and deaths, as a consequence, these cause a vicious circle, about $100bn worth of litigations and even more profits via unnecessary procedures for hospitals .

Clearly, the American style innovation, outcome-based payment reform, could speed up the adoption of IT system, under this package, docs' pay is dependant upon patient's outcome, no intervention, wastes, frequent readmissions, low-quality are allowed later on.

It is firmly believed with the preventive care program in operation, this innovation could make a big difference just like GM has surprised the world with the adoption of EV-conversion technology from pioneers and outpaced the excellent hybrid cars (the release of BYD's earlier appearance in America and the ambitious plan of Germany for 1million of EVs by 2020 etc might support it).


7. Over the duration of time-consuming discussion surrounding this common sense, a fundamental human right, and slow down to shout and disrupt, and lie irresponsibly, America has been loosing market share in a futuristic sustainable energy arena. But just like if a country attempts to steal cash from wall street, America can't wait and see, so the opposite is the same. Taking the invaluable lives and gigantic war spending into account, it can be cited as one more extended reckless disaster, regardless of the result, as this great recession says.

Please note that time does not fix the endless greed, energy depletion, only science and innovation can meet the challenge.

Thank You !

"What remains to be seen is how the GOP responds to the threat and, if they don't respond to Obama's liking, whether the Democrats will carry out the threat."

If you think the first part "remains to be seen" you are deaf and blind.

As for the second part, "Democrats will" should be changed to "Congressional Democrats can."

In reality, the problem has never been the Republicans - there are enough Democratic votes to pass this. The problem has always been the Blue Dogs. These guys need to get on board. If they want to posture for the folks back home, fine, but they need to be made to understand that when it comes down to pressing the button, they had better remember which side they're on. If they think voting with the Republicans is going to help them get re-elected next time around, they're sorely mistaken.

I'm going to hold my breath to those stubborn Repug's compromise. Really this time.

Tired of the talk Barry, time to produce.

I'm not so sure. Waiting untill they broke out the Nazi signs and the AR-15's was probably a good idea, Now they look like wack-jobs.

The GOP is entirely risible now. They have without question the most irresponsible core voter base and ride-along politicians since the Whigs in the late 1850s. It's astonishing.

I remember having a conversation with my grandmother about the McCarthy era when I was in college. I was writing a paper on the entire Red Scare period, and on McCarthy particularly. I asked her how so many people could follow along with one guy so foolishly and how they could just go insane like that.

Sghe told me that's where people's heads were at the time. They were scared and fed lies and just went along.

I distinctly remember saying that such a thing could never happen again, and she laughed out loud at me.

Point to you, grandma, wherever you are.

You Obama nuthuggers are so predictable. Obama's plan was to waste four months dicking around with the Republicans and the Blue Dogs, to delay passage of a bill, and to wait until the popularity of health care reform and Obama himself had been badly damaged by unanswered wingnut attacks before deciding to force through some half-assed legislation? Like hell it was.

This is playing out according to what will likely be the pattern for the next three years. Obama supports or proposes an approach that won't solve the problem at hand. The Republicans say it's Communism, they Blue Dogs say it's too much too soon, and the liberals let the media report unchallenged lies. Then Obama figures out what we knew five years ago, which is that the GOP is controlled by morons and sadists. He throws his support behind some inadequate, underfunded or insulting legislation, and guys like former-NC-Steve fall in love all over again.

Obama did not even try to get a bill that would actually fix health care in this country. He started out failing, he spent the summer failing, and now you praise him because the Earth didn't explode and there was no zombie attack. I think that eight years of the Unelected Idiot has distorted your sense of presidential competence and obligation.

"What remains to be seen is how the GOP responds to the threat and, if they don't respond to Obama's liking, whether the Democrats will carry out the threat."

Is that a joke? Of course we know what the response will be.

'WHAAAAA!!! Obama doesn't want to work with us!! He doesn't want to listen to us and come to a bipartisan compromise! We tried all this time to bend over backwards for him, with every intention of coming up with real reform, and he never reciprocated!!! It's NOT FAIR!!!!'

And bonus points if you can guess whether or not the MSM will take this BS seriously.

I can agree with parts of many comments on this thread. The president's approach to health care has been a mixed bag. He's taken heavy political damage in a quest for bipartisanship, but he's finally read the handwriting on the wall.

I doubt he's been playing Spock's 3-D chess all along, but whatever strategy he's followed has had the benefit of demonstrating conclusively that the GOP is fixed solely on denying him any victories. It's clear they intend to play hard for 2010 by highlighting the danger of 60+ cohesive "Socialist" votes. It's a refrain they've been singing since Obama's first month in office.

That said, it's a perilous tactical move to push this through on reconciliation. And in the end, it plays into the GOP stategy.

obstructionists

"The rumblings are unmistakable. What remains to be seen is how the GOP responds to the threat and, if they don't respond to Obama's liking, whether the Democrats will carry out the threat."

Yeah, right. Expecting Democrats to carry out the threat is like expecting Democrats to grow a loaded scrotum. Ain't gonna happen.

The Nazi death panel bullshit...did anyone really ever think the rethuglicans would work with the Democrats? The rethuglicans are using those kinds of talking points to discourage support. That's insanity. Surely the dems are smart enough to not take that shit to heart. Right?!