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More Details Emerge On The Concealed Gun Arrest In New Hampshire

Some more details have emerged from the arrest of 62-year old Richard Terry Young, who was found with a gun concealed in his pickup truck near the site of President Obama's visit yesterday to Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

The Portsmouth Herald reports that Young, who was arrested several hours before Obama arrived, was initially detained for sneaking past the security perimeter. A search of his car found a .380 Kel Tec semi-automatic, hidden in a bag and with a round in the chamber. He was arrested on a charge of having a concealed weapon without a license.

That particular model of gun can be easily concealed, said arresting Officer Detective Lt. Corey MacDonald. "It can fit in the palm of my hand," said MacDonald, who added that the situation of the arrest "would have been very different if it was on his person."

It should be noted that under New Hampshire's laws, a person can of course transport a weapon in their car, but in this case the apparent crime was in it being hidden in the car -- as opposed to being in plain view on the seat -- and also being loaded.

The Herald reached an unidentified man at Young's home, who said that Young "intended no harm," and that "he's just somebody who was forgetful and he made a big mistake."

Late Update: I just spoke with Detective Lt. MacDonald. Young was released on a personal recognizance bond of $30,000 -- meaning that he does not have to pay any money up front beyond the $40 bail commissioner's fee, but if he were to skip bail he would then be liable for the full amount. He has been charged with two misdemeanors by Portsmouth, relating to trespass in a secure area and the unlicensed concealed weapon, with no word yet on whether the Secret Service will pursue any federal charges.

MacDonald did not view the matter as a clear and present danger.

"I would say I'm not allowed to comment on anything that he did or did not tell us, or whether or not he made a statement," said MacDonald. "But I can tell you that if I believed he had the intention right now of being a danger to either himself or somebody else, I would have recommended a high cash bail as opposed to a personal recognizance bail."


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This situation is spinning out of control. They should ask this fruitloop who he watches on tv and who he listens to. I am sure he is one of the lush brigade and is a huge fan of glen "the wacko" back. Seriously, this is really, really troubling the way the uninformed and mentally challenged loons can get whipped up into a frenzy. It is a major disaster waiting to happen.

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A disaster eagerly awaited by the media no doubt.

I truely believe the media is waiting to call these folks on their actions and hypocrisy until after the disaster. If they call them out too early then it won't happen, thus taking away the "ratings gold" of such an event.

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I'm sorry to say I agree with you.

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I'm sorry to say I agree with you.

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Oh my God! These people shouldn't be allowed to run around loose. Put that guy in jail for pete's sake. Do you know that if the gun were out in plain sight, no law would have been broken. Honestly, these people are too stupid to be allowed to vote or reproduce.

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Yeah, why would we be worried about a guy who avoided security and had a loaded gun in his car?

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Indeed, obviously he was too stupid to remember to bring the gun with him. In the meantime I'd be interested in hearing how they found him, and how he got in.
Those Yankee rednecks are slippery and all precautions should be taken. I think they should have rounded up his family as well and held them for observation. Can't be too careful you know.

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You really don't think it's the slightest cause for concern, do you? Not even remotely possible that the guy was thinking it made more sense to leave the piece in his car while he probed for holes in the security perimeter and then go back and get it if he found one. Nawwww, no doubt you think that, when putting yourself at risk for getting caught probing for weak points in a presidential security perimeter, it makes much more sense to have a gun on you so the charges will be much worse if you get caught.

Idiot.

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You're not fooling anyone shooter. Everyone on this board know you are the 12yr old attention whore, resident wingnut troll.

But yes, I agree with you. He should not be able to vote or reproduce. A fit policy for everyone in the redstates.

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Thank you. Like Rush says, you can't parody the truth, as you so well demonstrate.

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Listen to Rush a lot, do you?

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Actually Most Red states still gave Obama about 40% of the vote and many Blue states gave McLame the same 40%.

Surely there is a better criteria we can set for permission to reproduce.

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Nah, its the best policy. Its the only sure way to rid our society of people so stupid they watch and quote lying demagogues like beck and limbaugh.

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Oh, I think he made more than just one mistake. Starting with leaving a round in the chamber. Just an innocent little mistake. That's totally the act of a guy with good NRA trained gun safety skills who has no intention whatsoever of using the gun any time soon.

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How about one great big American circular firing circle-jerk?

That would at least take the pressure off the health care system.

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You're assuming these loonies could hit their target.

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wouldnt really matter as y'all are so fond of these assault rifles that spew bullets all over the place.

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lets not forget the extra-capacity clips...

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I was raised knowing how to use a firearm. I have great respect for them. In my family, "gun control" means that you know how to use your weapon, if you choose to have one. I choose not to.

These people - traveling with a loaded weapon, DROPPING YOUR WEAPON ON THE FLOOR for crissakes! - shouldn't be allowed with sharp objects, let alone a firearm.

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Yeah, I noticed that too. Sadly, it's up to those of us in the liberal world who were raised in the south and/or rural areas to bring some of these alarming fine points to the attention of our gun-phobic brethern in the urban north.

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Careful, pal. You don't need to teach the ghetto about guns. Rest assured that gang members know how to use their weapons just fine.

Northern urbanites aren't concerned with responsible armed citizens, they're concerned with the very real day-to-day violence that is enabled by a steady supply of guns to criminals.

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Spraying a clip of bullets in the general direction of your intended target doesn't exactly impress me as being highly competent with firearms. Puts them on the same plain with most of the goobers in Bubbaville who keep blowing off important body parts while cleaning loaded weapons.

My point, however, is that keeping a bullet in the chamber in a gun being carried in a car is either a sign of enormous stupidity or of an intention to use the weapon--and empty it--in the immediate future.

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Sooner or later someone is going to use one of those things. And "just a mistake"?! Please, if it was just a mistake why'd he sneak past security?

This guy needs to do a long stretch at Leavenworth.

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"I Forgot. I forgot armed robbery was against the law."

-Steve Martin

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As a former police officer, let me just say that the LAST thing I ever wanted to have to deal with was a motivated, well-intentioned armed citizen interceding in a situation already potentially spinning wildly out of control. I simply cannot understand why many people perceive a need to 'protect' themselves and others from an unquantifiable threat, and are increasingly allowed and encouraged to do so.

Overwhelming evidence clearly shows that firearms kept in a home are far, far more likely to be accidently or intentionally used against family members than against intruders.

The situation becomes even more intolerable when such individuals are motivated by self-promoting heroics, have no or poor training, exercise unbelievably poor judgement—as was the case here—and, demonstrate a compulsive need to exert power over others when no statutory basis exists for such action and no justification for it can possibly hold up to scrutiny.

There should be administrative procedures or court imposed penalties for 'forgetting' the rules, and secreting a loaded, concealable pistol in a vehicle, on a person or elsewhere. Lifetime revocation of a permit seems a reasonable penalty to impose on individuals who 'forget' the rules, or selectively violate them, whatever their motivations.

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Hear, hear.

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At night, the Gun Fairy comes to every house with a gun and sprinkles the air with Magical Protection Dust Except Against Accidentally Discharging The Weapon. That is why there are so few times that guns have to be used against intruders.

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Again with the "logic"... Clearly you forget whom we are dealing with.

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Amen. I am gratified to hear a former police officer expressing sentiments on this issue so close to my own.

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"I simply cannot understand why many people perceive a need to 'protect' themselves and others from an unquantifiable threat, and are increasingly allowed and encouraged to do so."

Because calling 911 and waiting half an hour for the cops to get around to driving by is unacceptable. It's also the norm, as anyone who has ever lived in poorer areas will tell you.

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the Gun Fairy

LOL! Love the imagery!

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A reply to Karl above...

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Updated Story:
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/12/man-arrested-outside-obama-event-had-loaded-gun/
According to the newest information, this guy had a loaded gun on him in the venue.
Check out the Rawstory link.

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You mean "behind the curve" story. The second guy was on hardball last night, and as an unschooled TV commentor did surprisingly well. The first guy is already released on recognizance.

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I thought the "unschooled TV commenter" was a mentally defective.

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OK, so I'm mentally defective. Or rather "a mentally defective."

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You're account of the story you linked to is inaccurate. It clearly states that the guy who was arrested had a gun in his car.

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If felons can have their right to vote taken away, can we please have folks like this' right to bear arms taken away?

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Obviously, felons can't own guns either.

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So let me get this straight: half-trained uniformed TSA agents can confiscate my (oh, highly dangerous!) "cyber tool" Swiss Army knife and tell me "Because I say so!" when I ask them why I need to walk direction A rather than direction B after going through the metal detector, but this clown can drive up to a Presidential event with a gun in his truck?

Is it me, or has the entire country flipped its lid?

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Not just you.

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Not the entire, country just the 20%ers.

OH...and lets not forget the media hoping for a catastrophic event to boost ratings.

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Dougum - it was ever thus.

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Jesus christ, this is out of control.

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The Libertarian guy that Chris Matthews tried to verbally mow down (and failed) honestly seemed like a harmless goober who hopped on the Tea Party/Town Hall bandwagon.

This... doesn't.

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When I read about Kostric on another blog, I immediately thought "Timothy McVeigh". Then I read somewhere else that McVeigh's T-shirt had the exact same message as Kostric's sign. I don't think that concealed weapon carry laws should apply around the President. I'm sorry. I support the 2nd Amendment. However, I don't believe the founders of this country thought that we would have to deal with Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Michael Savage, Sarah Palin, Joe The Plumber, William Kostric, the NRA, lobbyists, etc. I personally feel that protecting the President is more important. I'm willing to give up weapons around a POTUS. Where's the Secret Service here?

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Stop, please. Kostric strikes me as an asshole, whereas the other guy seems like he made an honest (but very stupid) mistake. The fact that he was released on his O.R. should speak volumes.

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There are several internet news outlets that are reporting his physical address.Why is his physical address reported as part of the story? That seems awfully irresponsible to me as well as politically motivated. Almost like the reporter wants this man to be retaliated upon in some way. Why don’t we go ahead at add what time he gets off work in the article as well to.

So the next time some public official, a member of the media, or some Hollywood type does something wrong we should report exactly where they live too? That would be the fair and responsible thing to do right. Being how all these news outlets are now setting a president here.

If anything happens to this guy as a result of the media reporting his address they should be held criminally and financially responsible for it.

I’m not defending what this guy did. I would never bring a weapon near a public official like that; it’s just asking for trouble.

I am a concealed handgun license holder from the state of Texas and believe strongly in my second amendment rights. Even though I have a right to carry my handgun just about anywhere doesn’t mean I have to. You should exercise more responsibility than usual and make sure you are always on the up and up.

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