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On Meet the Press yesterday, Sen. Chuck Schumer contradicted his colleague Kent Conrad (D-ND), saying he believes there are 60 Democratic votes to pass a health care bill with a public option. And he confirmed that, with a bipartisan solution seeming unlikely, Democratic party leaders are indeed prepared to use the filibuster-proof budget reconciliation bill to pass at least some parts of health care reform.

"I believe we could get a public option that could be passed with the 60 Democratic votes," Schumer said. Conrad has repeatedly said the opposite--that the public option doesn't have the votes. But he famously hasn't explained who in the party would support a health reform filibuster over the issue.

Schumer went on to address the possibility that Democrats might circumvent the filibuster altogether. "[W]e are considering alternatives," he said in an appearance with Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT).

They include just getting 60 Democratic votes and maybe an occasional Republican here or there on a bill, if we can't get a bipartisan bill, try as we might. They include looking at reconciliation, which only needs 51, and they include a combination. We are now looking at the alternatives because it's looking less and less likely that our -- certainly, the Republican leadership in the House and Senate will want to go for a bipartisan bill. Jon Kyl has said he doesn't want a single Republican vote for any health care bill.

Schumer sounded similar notes earlier this month, but his latest statement comes after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid signaled that he's on board with using all procedural means to pass health care.

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August 24, 2009 9:30 AM   

Do it, baby. Schumer for majority leader.

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August 24, 2009 9:52 AM    in reply to jerryfatheart

Second!

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August 24, 2009 10:27 AM    in reply to jerryfatheart

Third! Schumer is the man. I have a Democratic senator thanks to Chuck Schumer!

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August 24, 2009 10:56 AM    in reply to jerryfatheart

I'll vote for that. Chuck for Majority Leader. Oh yeah.

Wanna make that happen? If Spineless Harry doesn't draw a primary challenge, support his Republican challenger instead. We have 60 seats, and the advantage going into 2010. We can afford to punt one seat to get better leadership.

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August 24, 2009 11:00 AM    in reply to Steaming Pile

Man, that's lame! Reid doesn't have to lose his seat to get a new majority leader.

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August 24, 2009 9:30 AM   

And in other breaking news, Sen. Schumer announces that water is wet! Film at 11!

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August 24, 2009 9:36 AM   

Bipartisanship is a myth. The Republicans torture people....they are not interested in making people well.

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August 24, 2009 9:40 AM   

In the Nordic countries, every party likes and supports the healthcare system -- including conservatives. Indeed, the healthcare systems are so good, they are used to justify national pride. Success in implementing a national healthcare system, would be a huge plus for the party that achieves it, but it won't be too long until both parties claim it was their idea. Next week we may be hearing that Jon Kyl won't vote for the bill unless it has a stronger public option.

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August 24, 2009 9:45 AM   

I'm so pleased Sens. Gillerbrand and Schumer are my senators.

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August 24, 2009 9:54 AM   

And Droopy Dog Lieberman wants attention again, so he announces that HCR should be kicked down the road a few years. What's the hurry? Joe's got his.

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August 24, 2009 2:55 PM    in reply to jeffgee

Lieberman is such an asshole! People are absolutely desperate for healthcare, people are dying because they have no decent healthcare, and this asshole wants to stall some more. The people of Connecticut should just protest him everywhere he goes, day and nite, until that smug arrogant grin drops off his ugly face! Gawd I hate that guy!

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August 24, 2009 9:54 AM   

How does any of this makes any sense?

Schumer believes that there are 60 votes to pass healthcare.
But, Schumer believes bi-partisan solution is unlikely.
And so, Schumer believes Dems are ready to use reconciliation.

Hello? Which 60 votes?? It seems to me what he was trying to say was this:

We should in theory have 60 votes to pass healthcare, but - because we don't, we need to rely on bi-partisan solutions. Absent that, we'll go for the phyrric victory of getting "some" parts in. Because erm, Yes, We Can!

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August 24, 2009 9:59 AM   

I don't usually watch these shows but I saw Schumer, and he really took control of the segment -- he got much more screen and talking time. David Gregory was an ass -- he asked Schumer (I think fairly) where he thought Obama stood, but overall, was totally focused on the politics rather than the substance (he kept getting peeved that Schumer was explaining how the public otpion would work, saying things like, "I understand that's your preference, but . . . [I want to gossip about politics here."]

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August 24, 2009 10:01 AM   

Single payer. Punish the Republicans and punish the insurance companies for overplaying their hand. Nothing would set a better tone for the rest of the Obama Administration than saying, "If you don't come to the table ready to deal, you and your backers get nothing. NOTHING."

Besides, everybody knows that is the most cost-effective way of providing health insurance. Plus, Medicare is only in trouble because all it has are the oldest, sickest people in the country. Widen the base of that and charge everyone a small premium and problem solved.

At the same time, with one stroke of the pen, American industry can become much, much more competitive, since all those legacy health care costs can go bye-bye. At the moment, all of our competitors give their companies what is effectively a subsidy by paying for their workers health insurance. WHY THE FUCK DOES NO ONE MAKE THIS CONNECTION!!!!

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August 24, 2009 10:32 AM    in reply to expatjourno2

"Single payer. Punish the Republicans and punish the insurance companies for overplaying their hand. "

I like it.

In a sense, what's the diff between the GOP/insurers fighting tooth and nail against Obama's moderate HCR bill, or against a more robust bill? They will spend just as much money attacking. I agree, these mofos should be punished and made an example of.

Get on the train or get run over.

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August 24, 2009 10:33 AM    in reply to expatjourno2

After 3 years of Obama saying "if you like you insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan" he's now going to say "Psych! No more private insurance for you!"

After scrounging for votes to make a public plan just ONE OPTION, he's supposed to find 60 votes for single payer.

Did you eat lead paint as a kid or were you born stupid?

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August 24, 2009 11:26 AM    in reply to FreeRider

What you say is correct, but it makes sense also to punish opponents that decide to pick a nasty fight over modest reforms. I would love to make an example of the insurance compnanies. Single payer will probably have to wait, but I would ratchet up restrictions on them so that next time, industry learns it is easier to work with us and then try to kill any reform.

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August 24, 2009 12:37 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

Yep. Restrictions. Heavy, heavy restrictions!

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August 24, 2009 9:23 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

Not gonna happen. And here's why.

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August 24, 2009 12:42 PM    in reply to expatjourno2

"Single payer. Punish the Republicans and punish the insurance companies for overplaying their hand."

Yes. And remember that once this is passed, their much ballyhooed backlash in the next election may not go as planned. The electorate will see no "death panels" convening; all the other lies about this will be tossed back in their face. There will already be stories of people "saved by the system". Their only talking point will be the money it costs, and that will be argued both ways.

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August 24, 2009 3:03 PM    in reply to expatjourno2

I TOTALLY AGREE! Single Payer would make the USA an economic force to be reckoned with and probably set of one of the greatest bull markets in history. The huge percentage of GNP that we spend on crappy unreliable healthcare is dragging us down the sewer. I just cannot understand either why this point isn't being made by so-called business interests to juice up the American economy. Why the hell does the business community let big drug and insurance screw the deal up for every other business? WTF???

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August 24, 2009 10:09 AM   

Did Schumer really say "forget about a bipartisan bill", as the TPM headline implies?

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August 24, 2009 10:36 AM   

Wait a second ... Tom Coburn isn't open to honest discussion and compromise?

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August 24, 2009 10:48 AM   

Anyone else read Schumer's book, "Positively American"?

He's a pretty smart pol and would make a great majority leader.

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August 24, 2009 11:27 AM    in reply to ProgressiveTeen

Cosign,. How do we get him i nthere, and get rid of Reid?

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August 24, 2009 11:10 AM   

Someone needs to ask Conrad- point blank- what Democrat will filibuster a bill with a public option.

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August 24, 2009 11:27 AM    in reply to PorkBelly

Fillibuster your own president and party?

= Treason!

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August 24, 2009 11:30 AM   

I honestly have felt this was Obama's plan all along but he had to do the bipartisan route first to show these naysayers for who they are.

I think in the end that is how it will get done with the public option.

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August 24, 2009 11:43 AM   

One fallacy that permeates this whole topic is the notion that since 60 votes are required to invoke cloture and shut down a real filibuster, then this same 60 votes in required to pass a bill in the Senate.

Nonsense. There are a number of defects in this viewpoint.

First, just because a Blue Dog does not feel that he wants to vote for a bill does not mean that he will support a filibuster against it. These are very different political decisions.

Second, bills were passed despite actual filibusters with some regularity in days gone by. James Carville argues that the Democrats should simply let the Republicans filibuster, if they can, and he is right. The filibuster is simply a delaying tactic for the loser in a political dispute. Eventually the filibuster will collapse, or the 60 votes will finally surface to shut it down. Either way, it is a big win for the Democrats.

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August 24, 2009 3:11 PM    in reply to CareyInLA

I think Carville is right on this. I would love to see the Repubs filibuster and then even the stupid people will wonder what the hell these assholes have against everyone having decent healthcare. That would be a great way to unite the progressives and centrist Dems as nobody would want to be seen giving the Repubs any help with a filibuster. I honestly do not think the average American idiot even knows what a filibuster is. I think most just assume that 51 votes gets you a win. Seems like common sense to everyone anyway. LET THEM TRY IT!

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August 24, 2009 12:15 PM   

Steele is now pushing a new GOP myth...A Death Book for veterans. Read this short article on the "Death Book" myth.

We need to stop this crap before it gets out of hand like the death panel phrase did.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2652

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