Jumping feet first onto the newest the-government-will-kill-you bandwagon is RNC chairman Michael Steele, who said on Fox today that a Veterans Affairs manual is "encouraging them [veterans] to commit suicide."
"I mean, this is crazy coming from the government, and this is exactly what concerns people and puts them in fear of what the government control of health care will look like," Steele said.
Steele was talking about what's been called the "death book," a VA pamphlet on setting up advance directives such as living wills. Starting with an op-ed last Tuesday written by George W. Bush's "faith czar," Jim Towey, conservative media has been swarming over claims that the pamphlet encourages disabled veterans to evaluate whether they're a "burden" to their families, in effect telling them to commit suicide.
"Just look at the situation with our veterans, when you have a manual out there telling our veterans stuff like, 'are you really of value to your community,' you know, encouraging them to commit suicide," Steele said today.
The pamphlet, of course, does nothing of the sort.
However, a fact sheet released by the White House says it was pulled for revision in 2007, when a panel found it "to be too negative in tone and not sufficiently sensitive to the perspectives of veterans with pro-life perspectives and veterans living with life-long disabling conditions."
The administration went into pushback mode this morning, releasing the fact sheet and a timeline of the booklet to some reporters, including Greg Sargent.
Fox News has been especially persistent in following the meme, grilling VA undersecretary Tammy Duckworth about it on Sunday and discussing it on Monday with National Review Online editor Jonah Goldberg. Goldberg compared to pamphlet with Nazi eugenics.


The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 25, 2009 11:06 AM
I've had an amazing insight. This guy is to blacks as Sarah Palin is to women.
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Stiggs
August 25, 2009 11:28 AM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Wow. A ten word phrase that delves into racial, gender and political issues in a negative and critical tone and yet leaves very little room for anyone to be offended.
Masterful doesn't even begin to describe.
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Dana Lane
August 25, 2009 2:18 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
That is a very funny statement!
I find it hard to believe that these lies from the GOP can be publicly stated and no legal consequences happen at all. There should be a difference in regular free speech and someone trying to take control of our very country with blatant lies.
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mJJ
August 26, 2009 4:06 PM in reply to Dana Lane
Not to worry. Republican's response to this issue just makes them seem absolutely stupid. I am a moderate Republican, who worked my entire working career as a registered Nurse. Republicans have no idea how truly stupid they sound on this issue. End of life planning has been around for years and it is a great comfort to Senior Citizens to have this option. Now Republicans that know know better have sullied this option and caused SOME seniors to question end of life planning right when they need it most. The problem with this meme though is that I have been around when Republicans discuss it and their stupidity is planned to make Democrats look like killers even though in doing so, Seniors now have no refuge. Amazing how truly stupid Republicans sound. I am NOT leaving the party but i do hope to tell every last Senior that this Steele meme is a crock and not in their best interest at all. To conflate end of life planning into "a suicide vehicle" is the most disgusting thing Republicans have done in years. After all this is settled, I shall leave the party as will many other medical staff who know that Republicans have this demonic need to win even at the expense of the well being of seniors. What a sad state the Republican party is in and they know exactly what they are doing, too. The talking point on this issue is diabolical but alas, it is backfiring on Republicans and thank God for that!
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AhTrini1
August 25, 2009 3:45 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
ROTFLMAO
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Indie Tarheel
August 25, 2009 4:02 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Bravo, good sir.
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CranialRectalLoopback
August 25, 2009 11:10 AM
I encourage Steele to commit actual, not only political, suicide.
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Rich in NJ
August 25, 2009 11:16 AM
Being a Republican means never having to pretend that you are sane.
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PorkBelly
August 25, 2009 11:16 AM
So. . .
What do you have to say to be ostracized from the political community?
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Schmed
August 25, 2009 11:27 AM in reply to PorkBelly
See if Steele runs for elective office ever again. This fool is toast, politically.
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Hominine
August 25, 2009 11:33 AM in reply to PorkBelly
Surely Steele will toe the line.. And then pole vault over it.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 25, 2009 12:19 PM in reply to PorkBelly
Well, in September 2002, at any rate, something like this would have done it:
By shifting from his early focus after September 11th on war against terrorism to war against Iraq, the President has manifestly disposed of the sympathy, good will and solidarity compiled by America and transformed it into a sense of deep misgiving and even hostility. In just one year, the President has somehow squandered the international outpouring of sympathy, goodwill and solidarity that followed the attacks of September 11th and converted it into anger and apprehension aimed much more at the United States than at the terrorist network – much as we manage to squander in one year’s time the largest budget surpluses in history and convert them into massive fiscal deficits. He has compounded this by asserting a new doctrine – of preemption.
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
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hewhohasnoname
August 25, 2009 12:25 PM in reply to PorkBelly
You're asking the wrong question. Clearly, saying something crazy is no longer grounds for ostracizing someone in today's politics (see: Palin, Sarah; Gingrich, Newt; McCain, John; Steele, Michael; Bachmann, Michele; any birther congressperson).
The question is: When did it become politically advantageous to say something crazy?
When lunacy actually RAISES your stock in politics, we're in serious and trouble. Guess what? We've reached that point.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 25, 2009 12:37 PM in reply to hewhohasnoname
Go read "The Paranoid Style in American Politics." There's always been a market for crazy in our politics.
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_jonny_5_
August 25, 2009 1:12 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Fair enough, but in the era where people have more access to information than ever before, why is it that strait-forward lies (proven to be so in seconds of cursory research) are so completely unchallenged by the media.
I'm seriously disgusted, more so of the media, than even the purveyors of these lies. Can't they get the ratings of having these crazies, and their outlandish claims, on their networks and still do their duty to report on facts?
Yes, I know Steele was on Fox(crazy central), but shouldn't everyone else be harping on this as an example of the wide ranging falsehoods eminating from the right?
Sure, Jon Stewart is likely to comment, Jokingly and this has long since passed the point of being funny.
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caseynm
August 25, 2009 11:27 AM
When you say "conservative media" do you mean everything except lefty blogs?
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lizbensky
August 25, 2009 11:41 AM in reply to caseynm
No, not 'lefty blogs', lets just say media that chooses to engage in sane evidence-based analysis.
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bigbee
August 25, 2009 11:37 AM
So, Steele says that George W. Bush's VA was encouraging vets to commit suicide. Since when do you not get kicked out of the party (and off of Fox) immediately for such transgressions against teh greatest prez evah? Did I just miss the announcement of the change in policy?
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Hominine
August 25, 2009 11:38 AM
Is there another "news network" promoting this meme?
The way the Fox anchor tore into Secretary Duckworth was just sad. They display ZERO respect for veterans and it makes me wonder how long FN can keep this "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" approach up..
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TheraP
August 25, 2009 11:38 AM
Right. Sure. Oh, yes... Mental health professionals are risking lawsuits by dereliction of duty. What smear!!!!
This man has just smeared every mental health professional at the VA! And I hope to God they all rise up and condemn his remarks!
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AdAbsurdum
August 25, 2009 11:47 AM
Arlen may be grossly misspeaking on this subject. If so, I eagerly await Sestak's slam.
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AnswerFrog
August 25, 2009 11:51 AM
When are the media going to simply call these bastards "liars".
Waiting fro the MSM to grow a spine and stop it with the "he said she said" coddling bullshit.
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twoviragos
August 25, 2009 11:56 AM
Have you noticed in the last week that there's not a single Republican who will back away from the whole death panel lie in all it's various forms? I think it all started with one of those recent polls that said that nearly half of Americans believe there's death panels included in the health reform bills. Now the Republicans have realized that they don't have to back away from this lie because they have convinced a significant portion of the population that these lies are truth. It's so insufferably egregious, but how do you fight lies like this when they've reached the level of urban myth?
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NobleCommentDecider
August 25, 2009 12:42 PM
The biggest threat to veterans and active duty troops the last eight years has been rule by George W. Bush, the war loving, fear mongering, incompetent liars of the Republican Party, the GOP echo chambers at Fox News and other MSM, and the idiots that support it all in the Bush Base.
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atticus1104
August 25, 2009 12:45 PM
Have you all seen this video of Neil Cavuto saying that it is not Obama's moral obligation to make sure Americans have health care, but it is his moral obligation to protect the American dollar?
This is unbelievable! here is the clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2640
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_jonny_5_
August 25, 2009 1:17 PM in reply to atticus1104
"This is unbelievable!"
If by unbelievable you mean common place, normal, conventional wisdom among Republicans than, I'd agree.
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Kuyleh
August 25, 2009 1:23 PM in reply to atticus1104
Well, if I separate it from the "screwing America to protect the dollar" part and just focus on the "moral obligation to protect the dollar," I can kind of see it...I'm not comfortable with how far up my rear my head would have to stay to actually believe it, though.
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NobleCommentDecider
August 25, 2009 2:15 PM in reply to atticus1104
Was it the late Edward Abbey who said the United States stood for "Government of the dollar, by the dollar and for the dollar".
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caitlyna
August 25, 2009 12:55 PM
I'm a veteran who gets my health care through the VA medical system. It is the best medical care I have received anywhere and the staff are totally respectful and caring for the vets they see.
Since Steele never served in the military, I can understand that he wouldn't be familiar with the VA and how it treats its patients, but there is no excuse for his complaints and insults to a system that takes its support for America's vets far more seriously and respectfully than the republican party has done in recent years. He has no business dissing a system that works hard and well to provide care for veterans without taking the time to understand how we vets view our own care as provided by the VA.
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_jonny_5_
August 25, 2009 1:25 PM
Well, The VA can't be that good at encouraging Vets to kill themselves... We still have McCain as a burden to us all.
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mgoggin
August 25, 2009 1:27 PM
Here's a copy of the VA pamphlet:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19054083/Your-Life-Your-Choices-VA-Death-Book
This really shows how pervasive Orwellian doublespeak has become among Republicans, and also how the socially conservative "culture of life" nuts have completely overrun the traditional Goldwater conservatives who believe that the government should keep its hands out of your affairs. To have the option of a federally funded insurance plan somehow is being portrayed as the government interfering with your freedom. Being given a pamphlet about what your options are for end-of-life care somehow becomes a government-run mandatory death panel. The real kicker is that if most Republicans had their way it would be mandatory that all people be kept on life support even after they are brain dead, even if the person had clearly indicated that they didn't want that.
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jeffgee
August 25, 2009 1:47 PM in reply to mgoggin
The new GOP argument to that is that Terri Schiavo set up her DNR request when she was "hale and hearty" and would have given a different answer when she entered the persistent vegetative state, if she could have. So any End of Life wishes must be discarded when the patient is at a tipping point because it's easy to say "don't keep me alive with ventilators and feeding tubes" when you're feeling fine but nobody ever wants to die even when everything is hopeless.
And, to apply to the GOP's scientific methods, Dr. Trent Lott was able to diagnose her condition from a television picture.
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jeffgee
August 25, 2009 1:49 PM in reply to mgoggin
But don's ask the public to PAY for it!
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Matt Jones
August 25, 2009 1:31 PM
I had a revelation - this isn't the first issue Republicans have applied this logic to.
Here's a few examples of "normal thinking" -> "crazee"
In this case, "discussing end-of-life planning" -> "encouraging people to kill themselves".
Furthermore, "a public option to compete with private insurers" -> "total government takeover of healthcare"
With the HPV vaccine: "preventing teenagers from getting a virus that causes cancer" -> "encouraging them to set up sex cults"
On cap and trade: "discussing responsible controls on emissions" -> "sending all US business to China"
On gun control: "discussing limitations on ownership of military-grade firearms" -> "taking away all guns"
On international cooperation against terrorism: "questions about the methods used" -> "you support the terrorists"
On abortion: "abortion should be available and legal" -> "killing babies is fun"
See a pattern? It's like a moral compass that either points their way or as far from their way as possible.
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AhTrini1
August 25, 2009 3:40 PM
Geeeez, I guess since this "Death Book" was sanctioned under boooooosh, he IS Hilter, as per Jonah Goldberg.
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we r all husseins
August 25, 2009 5:43 PM in reply to AhTrini1
I was thinking along those lines myself. Bush was in office in 2007. So does this mean Steele is really saying Bush was encouraging disabled vets to to commit suicide?
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we r all husseins
August 25, 2009 5:45 PM
I can see veterans flocking to join the Republican Party after this.
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kfreed
August 26, 2009 6:50 AM
I wish the VA would encourage Steele to commit suicide.
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raiatean
August 26, 2009 2:42 PM
""Jumping feet first onto the newest the-government-will-kill-you bandwagon is RNC chairman Michael Steele, who said on Fox today that a Veterans Affairs manual is "encouraging them [veterans] to commit suicide."
"I mean, this is crazy coming from the government, and this is exactly what concerns people and puts them in fear of what the government control of health care will look like," Steele said.""
Steele, you lying piece of Repig Feces, what would you know about Veterans? Did you ever serve in any capacity other than that of a empty suit for the Rethuglican Party?
Being a 71 year old retirecd US Navy Chief Petty Officer and a Cancer Survivor and having survived that cancer on the back of Medical Care from the Veterans Administration.
This occurred in Portland Oregon VA Hospital for Colon Cancer and Skin Cancer. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, from the lowest administrative assistant through the nurses doctors and corpsmen/women gave me premier treatment...
I owe them my life and a debt of gratitude that I will never be able to repay... I owe you and your party NOTHING not even the time of day or the back of my hand...
I suggest that you and your type, no matter your race, crawl back under that flat rock or cow pie, from whence you came.
Just this old Chief's 2 cents
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