Teabaggers Try To Shout Down Health Care Reform At Town Halls
Angry teabaggers and other opponents of health care reform are heckling members of Congress at their town hall meetings back home in an effort to sway the debate and drown out reform supporters.
This weekend, a group of teabaggers showed up at a town hall in Philadelphia with Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. They shouted and booed to drown out remarks from both officials and questions from the audience. The Philadelphia Tea Party Patriots reportedly brought 40 people. Watch:
In Austin on Saturday, protesters followed Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) out of a forum at a grocery store, chanting "Just say no!" after he told the crowd he'd vote for a health care reform bill even if his constituents opposed it. Watch.
These aren't the first incidents of this kind, but we think it's a pretty safe bet they'll continue and intensify throughout August.
Rep. Tim Bishop (D-NY) has suspended town hall meetings after screaming protesters disrupted a June 22 forum in Long Island to the point where residents called the police to escort Bishop to his car.
Last week, a crowd erupted into thunderous applause after a soldier demanded an apology from Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) at a town hall with her staff. (The senator wasn't there.) The meeting was moderated by Americans for Prosperity's Missouri chapter. AFP was a major organizer of the tax day "tea party" protests.
Make sure to check out the teabaggers' strategy memo obtained by Think Progress.
Late update: We'll be adding more incidents as we track them down.
On July 6, Rep. Dan Maffei (D-NY) held a town hall meeting that devolved into a shouting match, with tea party protesters loudly interrupting whenever someone mentioned a public plan. Maffei threatened to break up the meeting, and has since said he plans to hold smaller, less publicized events with constituents.
Late late update: On Saturday, Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-PA) showed up to a restaurant, where he was supposed to hold one-on-one meetings with constituents, to find 150 angry people who demanded it be a Q&A, town hall style meeting. Murphy and his staff obliged, and changed the format at a second event held later in the day.
The crowd "erupted in a chorus of boos and catcalls" when Murphy said he thought Obama was doing a "pretty great job." Murphy tried to keep the crowd cool, admonishing hecklers from time to time to be respectful.
Late late late update: Saturday was a red-letter day for these protesters. A group shouted the Pledge of Allegiance at Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) as he left a local Democratic Party picnic, where he had pushed for universal health care. Watch:


















If this doesn't fire the progressive grass and net roots, nothing will
August 3, 2009 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm surprised this isn't getting more attention, but Malkin referred to Tea Baggers as counterinsurgency on Sunday.
In order for there to be a counterinsurgency, there first must be an enemy occupation. Wheeee!!
August 3, 2009 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, how do you think this will appear to normal sane people?
August 3, 2009 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is my question. Showing up with difficult questions as a small business owner is one thing -- showing up and screaming and heckling is quite another.
August 3, 2009 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
As my main man Pat Buchanan would say(apologies to Ali G)
Ride to the sound of the gunfire
The Guns of August
Jonathan Cohn
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/08/02/the-guns-of-august.aspx
August 3, 2009 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know these folks are the nuttiest of the nuttiest. The tea baggers always say it's not about party and it's not about Obama, yet at every one of their get togethers there are multiple carrying around "Where is the Birth Certficate" signs and other racially tinged stuff. I'm all for being anti-stupid wars but whenever I see the Code Pinkers on tv I think, "What a bunch of goofballs", especially when they get themselves thrown out of Congress, etc. I think more coverage of these loudmouthed, angry, almost 100% white wackos would be a good thing. I don't want to shut them down - I want them splattered all over the tv screen. The only thing that would be better is if Randall Terry and his crew of loonies joined them in their protests.
August 3, 2009 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah well this is a concerted strategy. There's dozens of websites exhorting and organizing, telling their members how to make their numbers look larger, disturb everybody and disrupt town halls all in an effrot to stop healthcare reform. Then we have Michelle Malkin on teevee yesterday talking about how Hillary was booed 15 years ago today at health care townhall in Seattle.
Don't think this is one you can poo poo and sit out. If there's a townhall in your area call your friends and go. Don't let them get away with this nonsense.
August 3, 2009 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree Mark. This is one of those instances where the lunatics are running the asylum.
August 3, 2009 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
To which I would add, call your working-class friends first.
These disruptive tactics are tantamount to the use of force. Asking them to stop is not going to work. They have decided that in advance. This is pure thuggery, based on the calculation that progressives are soft, and they can come and make a racket with zero chance of a bloody nose or arrest.
If it became known that physical courage (not just a pot of cash to bail you out and pay your lawyer) was required in order to shut down a meeting and make a MEMBER OF CONGRESS scuttle away, this phenomenon might abate.
August 3, 2009 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Best way to confront and expose them to a wider audience might be to do the macaca all over again: if you are able to, show up at a townhall and record these angry rants and put them up prominent sites. Sunlight being the best disinfectant and all...
August 3, 2009 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not the way it'll be reported in our media. They'll just cover the heat, not the light.
August 3, 2009 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's revealing that the tea baggers are all for First Amendment rights -- but only for themselves. They cherish democracy when it comes to Iraqis with purple thumbs and Iranians protesting elections and former Senator Coleman's disputed absentee ballots and union elections -- but let an American citizen try to exercise First Amendment freedoms to speak up about health care, and that is going way too far with this Democracy thing...
August 3, 2009 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute, according to Republicans this past week, wouldn't this be considered disorderly conduct?
Or does that rule of law only apply when it's a black guy being harassed in his own house?
August 3, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
IOKIYAR
August 3, 2009 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
If people have been bused in at these events, there is a way to fix that. I'd be carding everybody at my town hall. If the zip code doesn't match, that is, if that person doesn't live in my district, he or she doesn't get in. My town hall, my constituents, and that's it. End of discussion.
August 3, 2009 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, just watching the TPM Sunday Round up, you can see various conservative media talking heads saying that there will be a lot of conflict in the districts.
Based on that and the ThinkProgress release of the memo and other, this does seem to be a conscious strategy and I do not think it is smart to just dismiss it as nutjobs. The corporate media will treat this just as reasonable citizens speaking out.
We need to push back hard. Maybe even show up at some Republican sessions and give them a LITTLE taste of their own medicine. Or ask them if they approve of mobs at listening sessions. (the press will not ask Republicans if they approve)
August 3, 2009 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were Obama I'd make a surprise appearance at one of this that I knew would be loaded with teabaggers. Then make sure the media are there so every American can see these idiots and see Obama be cool under fire. We need to make the teabaggers the face of the opposition.
August 3, 2009 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Truth to tell, I don't think that the Secret Service would allow it.
August 4, 2009 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This reminds me of the young republicans who used to show up at rallies and chant Down with social security.
The democrats should be making lots of hay out of this -- at every opportunity they should make these people synonymous with the republican party establishment. make health insurance the new third rail.
August 3, 2009 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went to the Philadelphia town hall yesterday, just to hear what Arlen Specter had to say. These people were unhinged. They were screeching about cap and trade, abortion, the United Nations. They didn't even LOOK like normal people. I mean, you don't have to be a mental health professional to see that we're dealing here with some kind of neurological dysfunction.
So, this morning, The Philadelphia Inquirer ran an article about the town hall. The Inquirer presented this disaster as a spirited debate between public health advocates and union members (="liberals") and all-around "conservatives." The article gave no actual facts that might get in the way of our media's awesomely respectful treatment of any handful of right-wing goobers.
August will be long and sickening.
August 3, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is what I'm talking about. The corporate news media will not report that these people are unhinged, rude, interrupting or anything. They will paint them as active citizens only.
August 3, 2009 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush used to limit his audience to supporters only at his public appearances and lefties were never as obnoxious as the D-Baggers. Expose the 'Baggers for the anti-democratic loonies they are.
Wingers like mob rule better. No dialog necessary. Pure emotion. The loudest voice wins. Worship Sarah Palin and her nonsensical strings of hot-button dogwhistle words. Worship Rush Limbaugh and his illogical rants. Worship Joe The Plumber even though he isn't named Joe and he isn't a licensed plumber.
What's next in their insurgency -roadside bombs?
Never mind. They already did that in OK City.
August 3, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teabaggers could potentially be as useful to Democrats as long-haired hippies and radicals were to Richard Nixon in the 1970s.
Mainstream Americans are likely to recoil from footage of oddly dressed, rude and aggressive loudmouths like the teabaggers, if not also the rightist message they're attempting to communicate.
In this sense, media saturation of these crazies could be a plus for progressives. But we can't expect the mainstream media to provide the necessary summative interpretation of teabaggers' poor behavior. Democrats and progressives will have to provide the necessary words and labels to help less engaged Americans judge the teabaggers into noisy irrelevancy.
This, of course, depends on how deftly Democrats handle this political opening. Their history doesn't invite much optimism in this respect, but this one's big enough to drive a truck through.
August 3, 2009 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teabaggers could potentially be as useful to Democrats as long-haired hippies and radicals were to Richard Nixon in the 1970s
I agree. If Democrats can portray them as unhinged crazy baggers 'n birthers, then they'd have an advantage.
This, of course, depends on how deftly Democrats handle this political opening. Their history doesn't invite much optimism in this respect, but this one's big enough to drive a truck through.
Sadly, too true.
August 3, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the Democratic Party suits won't do it, then it's up to us.
August 3, 2009 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, just think how attractive a pop-veined, bug-eyed, spittle-flying wingnut is. A thirty-second spot followed by a mute text-over asking the viewers if they share the whack-a-do's opinion should be most effective.
August 4, 2009 12:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
These people are being used by corporate interests to advance corporate interests. It is beyond pathetic because they are not rich and well off, but poor and dumb working stiffs who feel cheated but do not at all understand who is cheating them. They would all no doubt be better off with the reforms that the Democrats are trying to pass. That is just the saddest part of these right wing manipulations that poor working dumbshits everywhere feel screwed by the system but are too confused by propaganda to attack the corporations and Republicans who are screwing them.
It reminds me of the busloads of thugs the Republicans bussed to Florida to disrupt the counting of ballots in 2000. Like then it is beyond irresponsible for the corporate media not to inform the public who is putting these idiots on and to what purpose.
August 3, 2009 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
FreedomWorks is coordinating these. Just check out their blog. They're working with TeaPartyPatriots, which is run by principals from SmartGirlPolitics, which counts several local teabagger leaders as members. They've been coordinating these for weeks and months now. Brendan Steinhauser of FreedomWorks is the de facto ringleader, and he's been traveling the country all year preparing protesters to do these things. They'll celebrating it and posting photos from each event at the FreedomWorks blog.
These guys have co-opted the Tea Party apparatus and can now get "protesters" to local government offices for any reason with little more than a phone call. We ignore them at our peril.
www.freedomworks.org/blog/
August 3, 2009 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems the guy behind the Philly attack is Andrew C Monaghan, who also just happens to be employed by the insurance industry and organizes tea parties. See here:
http://www.panzramic.com/
and here:
http://whyy.org/cms/news/health-science/2009/08/03/hhs-secretary-pitches-health-reform-in-philly/13077
August 3, 2009 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arlen Specter - Fighting Teabaggers on the FrontLine...Arlen for Health Care Reform...Arlen for PA
Specter has already started to hammer Sestak for the first term congressman's poor attendance record - that's Campaign 101 against any leg incumbent
This sort of thing adds considerable heft to Specter's case
What was Sestak doing this weekend?
Ask Buetler, his TPM campaign mgr
August 3, 2009 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is Outstanding News. Normal, reasonable citizens get to see these crackpot, looney tunes up close and personal; at their absolute worst.
What a gift. Its one thing to hear about it or see it on TV. Its quite another to endure the shock and discomfort in person.
Couldn't be happier.
What will eventually happen is politicians will wise up and begin setting up security of some sort at their constituent meeting. "Disorderly" folks will be identified when they start acting up and escorted out of the building or arrested.
Besides, it just make sense. Who knows when one of these goobers will pull a gun and start busting caps in folks? Its best to be prepared for the worst.
August 3, 2009 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Leave it to Republicans to turn rudeness and incoherence into a political tactic.
Fucking thugs, that's all they are.
August 3, 2009 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look, I don't know if the rest of you are as fed up as I am with the obstruction and political game playing going on with this health care reform...but I DO know this - the Republican obstructionists and the Blue Dog Dems have absolutely NO clue what the rest of us are going through with healthcare. Maybe it's time they did!
If you agree, please sign the petition below, and forward it - any way you can - to anyone and everyone you know! Time to let them know how we feel!!!!
http://www.petitiononline.com/PubOp676/petition.html
August 3, 2009 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
A petition is an idea that I can support, but is that enough?
I'm hitting the streets. This is a good fight.
What are you going to do?
August 3, 2009 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Teabaggers ? These are brownshirts, SA without the uniforms. It's all coming down now. A lot of them are armed and the worsening economic situation will only increase their desperation.
August 3, 2009 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it would be a mistake to either ignore or vilify the teabaggers. Who are they? I suspect (as others have in this thread) that many are not constituents of the congressmen whose events they are attending. Where do they come from? How do they see the future of health care panning out over the next 20-50 years? Why do they think it's okay to disrupt the meetings they're attending?
My hunch is that you get just a handful to answer candidly on camera, and you'll have a packaged, ready-to-go rebuttal to their entire strategy and motivation.
August 3, 2009 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't these Tea Baggers know they're not a grass roots movement at all? Among others, Dick Armery of Texas is an organizer and funds them from the shadows with lobby money. Just like Miami in 2000, these are not spontaneous demonstrations at all.
August 3, 2009 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where are the tasers when you need them?
August 4, 2009 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink