Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) isn't content to fight attempts at government-run health care here -- he wants to destroy it in other countries, too.
The central Louisiana newspaper The Town Talk reports that Vitter was asked at a town hall meeting about the fact that he opposes government health care, but supports re-importing prescription drugs from, as a constituent said, "countries that have socialized medicine." Vitter has campaigned in the past on re-importing drugs from Canada.
"My ultimate goal," Vitter explained, "is to use that (re-importation) to cause that (pricing) system to collapse."
Now Vitter does have a point, in that if the whole United States attempted to free-ride on Canada's prescription subsidies -- with that country having less than a tenth of our population -- then Canada's system would potentially be overwhelmed. More likely, their government would very quickly crack down on re-importation, cutting off the supply to the Yankees.
But who knew Vitter was deliberately trying to destroy Canada's social welfare system, in order to free up their market? This gives a whole new meaning to "Vive le Québec libre."


CVille Dem
August 20, 2009 12:46 PM
How does he feel about re-importing diapers?
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Michael A
August 20, 2009 12:48 PM
What an idiot. He doesn't understand that the us subsidizes worldwide drugs and that's why they are so cheap. A complete and utter idiot.
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SchrodingersCat
August 20, 2009 12:52 PM
Can't wait to hear what Canada has to say about that.
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jonnienohands
August 20, 2009 4:48 PM in reply to SchrodingersCat
Sorry, can't wait around, have some shopping to do. Gee, hope I don't put anyone out of business.
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jolly ranchero
August 20, 2009 1:06 PM
But what's his stance on Canadian hookers?
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MaryL
August 20, 2009 1:07 PM
Canada points and laughs. And laughs some more. And falls down on the floor, gasping for breath.
Can we get back to you when we've regained the power of speech?
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bluesplashy
August 20, 2009 5:05 PM in reply to MaryL
Yessss!
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Sean Dixon
August 20, 2009 1:10 PM
Canada says thank you for showing us why we should pay attention to what's going on down there in your health care debate.
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twirling fartknocker
August 20, 2009 1:28 PM
disingenuous sh*thead
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chimpale
August 20, 2009 1:36 PM
Good thinkin', Diaper Dave. Rather than bring our drug prices down to their level, let's bring theirs up to our level. It's exactly the same thing, except that vastly more consumers get screwed and won't be able to afford their prescriptions. But, that's not what's important.
What a freakin' genius. Is there anything good that the Republicans don't want to utterly destroy and replace with greedy monsters?
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fkaZk0sm0
August 20, 2009 1:41 PM
my favorite part about the article:
Before opening the floor for questions, Vitter said, "I am completely opposed to President (Barack) Obama's health-care plan."
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Responding to questions later, he said he had read a considerable portion of the House bill embodying Obama's plan, and between his staff and himself, they had read all of it. "Do I understand it? No."
hahaha
i may not understand it, but i am completely opposed to it!
good work!
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Beetlejuice
August 20, 2009 1:46 PM
If I'm not mistaken, isn't Vitter's pending political action what many civilized countries would view as an act of war - purposefully attempting to destroy their economy for your benefit.
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blogenfreude
August 20, 2009 1:53 PM
Why won't someone stand up and say what we all know - Vitter and his fellow GOP senators are sociopaths. Keeping sick people from getting the care they need and threatening Canadians with the loss of a part of their healthcare system is insane.
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Metzengerstein
August 20, 2009 2:00 PM
Regarding 1000-page bills: I feel even stranger saying that David Vitter has a point than I did about sticking up for the old guy yelling at Arlen Specter, but ... David Vitter has a point.
H.R. 3200, which I guess is the bill that everyone is talking about, is 1017 pages long. H.R. 676, the "single-payer" bill, is 30 pages long. The administration and/or the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves for this mess for saddling health-care reform with this tree-killing doorstop. Is anyone on this thread seriously prepared to claim that they have read every word of the bill and actually understand all of it? Why, just to name the most infamous example, put a detail like end-of-life consultation into enabling legislation in the first place? That's the kind of stuff to let executive departments write regulations for. Which is why it's easy to wonder if the whole intent of both sides was to lard reform down until it dies of its own weight.
And by the way, the length and complexity of the bill lead to another question: when people say they do or don't support "Obama's reform plan," just what the hell are they talking about? The plan he negotiated in secret meetings with industry lobbyists? The 1000+ page House bill that will be amended 10,000 times? Whatever comes out of a future conference committee? That's why a lot of people, including me, are lukewarm at best about calling their Reps and saying, "I support the President's plan." We haven't the foggiest notion what it is, even less what it will become. "Medicare for All" would have been a simple and easy-to-defend concept. What we have is just a muddled mess.
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chimpale
August 20, 2009 2:46 PM in reply to Metzengerstein
Yes, it's 1,017 pages long. If you've read it, you know that there's a lot of air in there. It's large print, wide margins, and double-spaced. If it were formatted like a book, it would probably be more like about 300 pages long, if even that. So, let's not get hung up on the physical dimensions.
Are you saying that everything that's in HR3200 that isn't in HR676 doesn't really need to be addressed? I'm not buying it and I'm certainly not buying that this process would somehow be easier if it were concerned with single-payer instead of the current plan.
You think the blue dogs are being assholes now? Try getting them to budge on a single-payer plan. They'd be filibustering alongside the Republicans.
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Metzengerstein
August 20, 2009 4:04 PM in reply to chimpale
Are you saying that everything that's in HR3200 that isn't in HR676 doesn't really need to be addressed?
No, I'm not saying it doesn't need to be addressed; I'm saying HR676 does address everything that needs to be. Otherwise, your question is an excellent distillation of the point in my admittedly rather wordy post. I'll admit I haven't read HR3200 because I think it's a deliberate poison pill, or full of multiple poison pills. Have you read HR676? It's all in there.
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gharlane
August 20, 2009 4:44 PM in reply to chimpale
Go ahead, Blue (Lap) Dogs. Filibuster Medicare for All. I dare ya.
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Indie Tarheel
August 20, 2009 2:50 PM in reply to Metzengerstein
Can't feel bad for Vitter not having read the bill when it's his f*cking JOB!! He can, could, and damned well SHOULD go do something else if he can't be bothered to do his job.
Sure, it might take away from his playtime, but, you know...
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ohyeathatsright
August 20, 2009 3:59 PM in reply to Metzengerstein
The 5th Harry Potter book was 870 pages and many people completed that in a matter of hours after it's release.
I would hope that our healthcare is at least 200 pages more important...
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pale
August 20, 2009 2:23 PM
Back in 2004 when this was a hot topic:
Some pharmaceutical companies including Pfizer, Wyeth and Astra-Zenica have restricted sales to Internet and mail-order pharmacies. The Canadian International Pharmacy Association called for a Canadians-first policy in allocating prescription-drug supplies.
http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2004/12/30/Analysis-Canada-may-halt-cross-border-Rx/UPI-17241104442285/
Some here say it was never a threat anyway, they are already getting meds from other countries....And that they would stop shipping if a shortage was imminent.
http://www.bcbusinessonline.ca/bcb/top-stories/2007/10/01/drug-trade
Vitter, he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed anyway.
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Bernie Latham
August 20, 2009 2:55 PM
About a decade ago, Paul Cellucci (as Ambassador to Canada) suggested that Canada ought to spend a lot more dollars for shiny weapons so that the West might be better defended against those existential threats that come from all corners at all times. Those dollars, he further suggested, ought to be facilitated through the dismantling of our social programs.
We Canadians really like Paul a lot. It's his wisdom and his empathy. And, as in this case with Vitter, we were and remain delighted to shoulder aside our rather silly local ideas in exchange for the spine-tingling thrill of even the briefest association with meglomania.
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Partisancheese
August 20, 2009 3:40 PM
No only dumb but mean and stupid...
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Rich
August 20, 2009 4:08 PM
Years ago, SPY magazine had a feature on Rhodes scholars. It was surprisingly illuminating--most of them never bothered to pick-up a degree and typically they had distinguished themselves as mediocritie sor embarrassments. The closest thing to a success story was Bill Clinton--who turned out to be a mediocre (if sometimes underestimated) president and who had a significant scandal. Vitter seems more typical---a senator from a backwaterish state with an undistinguished record and laughable scandal--indulging a diaper fetish with a female sex worker. According to SPY, the similarly competitive Mellon & Marshall scholarships produce more distinguished individuals (NB: I have a cousin, a classics prof who has had both). So, we should probably think of Vitter as the protypical Rhodie, not some ludicrous exception.
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Verified
August 20, 2009 4:36 PM
More evidence of a little education being a dangerous thing. Vitter is just so canny - why didn't anyone else follow this twisted trail of logic already? By this same logic, patronizing many prostitutes by saturating the market with consumer demand might also drive down the cost of....well you get the point.
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Dilirius
August 20, 2009 4:48 PM
Why would Vitter have to destroy the Canadian health care system if it is so bad?
Won't a bad system destroy itself?
After all, isn't that what Vitter and his buddies claim will happen to the American health system if the Canadian model is used - that it will destroy itself?
So, isn't Vitter also admitting that he intends to destroy any system that results from reform - that is, isn't he telling his constituents that he is willing to destroy any system they rely upon for their very lives in order to further his own partisan philosophy?
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worthy9
August 20, 2009 4:50 PM
This is surprising only in that Sen. Vitter is so candid about his intentions. Since WWII the United States and especially the American right has waged literal war against anything even resembling socialism all over the world. China, Chile, Guatemala, the Philippines, Afghanistan (the first time around)...the list goes on and on. That the method of waging war is economic instead of military is almost a breath of fresh air.
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sporkfire
August 20, 2009 5:20 PM
How idiotically short-sighted! Instead of focusing his energy and political capital on something that would affect his constituents in a positive manner, he'd rather sabotage the Canadian system for... what exactly?
Hey Vitter, why not try getting Louisiana out of the toilet when it comes to Health Care results. (http://healthcare-economist.com/2007/06/14/state-health-care-rankings/)
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glesco
August 20, 2009 6:15 PM
Several comments from Canada.
1) Drug prices are regulated in Canada so the pharmacutical companies get less money, in most but not all cases, than the US. Therefore, when an American buys a drug in Canada instead of US, the financial difference is borne by the RX company
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glesco
August 20, 2009 6:22 PM
continued. (I pressed submit prematurely)
The guidelines for drug pricing can be found here.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/409807_3
2) To buy a drug in Canada pharmacists require a prescription from a Canadian doctor. A Canadian doctor, in order write a prescription, needs to see the patient in person. Both of these are professional guidelines and violations may result in the pharmacist and/or doctor losing the right to practice. Therefore, the system does not allow mass exportation of drugs out of the country. As mentioned above, the drug companies also restrict supply to pharmacists they beleive are not following the practice.
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pbabe
August 20, 2009 9:08 PM
I have to admit to being shocked: Who knew Vitter actually had any semblance of intelligence (or at least what generally passes for credentials of same--Rhodes scholar and Harvard.) His behavior and public utterances have always seemed completely consistent with a stereotypical ignorant, venal, Southern (Republican) hypocrite. This man is clearly not stupid, which makes him and any others like him even scarier than I thought.
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