Whole Foods Exec Slams Health Care Reform, Says People Should Just Eat Whole Foods
"[W]e should be trying to achieve reforms by moving in the opposite direction--toward less government control and more individual empowerment. Here are eight reforms that would greatly lower the cost of health care for everyone." Sounds like a policy brief written by House Republicans, right?
Wrong.
The above passage comes from a Wall Street Journal op-ed written by Whole Foods CEO John Mackey. His solution for the health care crisis includes common Republican ideas--"Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year"--to unexplained platitudes--"Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair."
But conveniently, it also includes the following advice: "Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are expensive to treat."
Translation: Whole Foods is the solution to all of America's health care woes.















Well...
I won't be shopping at the Whole Foods on 14th Street anymore.
August 13, 2009 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
And the one on 25th st.
August 13, 2009 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was just making up a shopping list for Whole Foods a few minutes ago. Fortunately there are other good options, just a little further out.
Be sure to let them know about your change in shopping habits:
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/company/service.php
See the "contact us via email" section down the page.
August 13, 2009 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link. I just informed my local Whole Foods store that I won't be shopping there anymore even though it has been my primary supermarket for 5 years. Time to take the gloves off.
August 13, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't shop there because it is so way overpriced and I am not convinced of the freshness or the integrity of the food. I don't know if you have A Trader Joes in your area, but they are a much better alternative.
August 13, 2009 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a matter of fact, there is a Trader Joe's in the next block from the Whole Foods Market here in Glen Allen. Whole Foods is getting struck from my list; time to try Trader Joe's.
Also, they're setting up a mobile farmer's market in the area from now into the fall. That gets added to the list, too.
Didn't Mackey recently admit that Whole Foods had started selling what was basically junk food as well recently, because the recession had made people less willing to pay top dollar for the Real Thing? I'll have to go back and see where I think I remember hearing that; might have been a recent edition Terry Gross's "Fresh Air," where she spent part of the hour interviewing Michael Pollan.
August 13, 2009 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
TJ's s cool; you'll like it. WF always struck me as an operation to fleece gullible yuppies.
August 17, 2009 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, try local farmers and farmers' markets if you can. To find a resource near you, check the Local Harvest site (http://www.localharvest.org/)
August 14, 2009 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I finished reading the editorial again, and finished writing a long email to WF.
I thought Mackey made a few good points, but those points are buried in misleading sound-bites and teabagger memes. Intentionally or not he gave the teabagger crowd (i.e. anti-reform/anti-Obama types organized by groups funded by health insurance companies) some high-profile fuel for their fires. Very disappointing.
August 13, 2009 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for responding intelligently. The guy was exercising his freedom of speech; you exercised yours. Nothing more, nothing less.
August 13, 2009 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh wait, you're going on the boycott.
Never mind, I take back the thanks.
August 13, 2009 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
so putting yer money where yer mouth is isn't an intelligent response or an exercise of freedom of expression??
August 13, 2009 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, just like campaign donations aren't "free speech".
August 13, 2009 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
so we shouldn't be allowed to spend our money in ways that we consider responsible? or shop at business that don't spend their (our) money and/or clout to advocate against issues we support??
you are so completely full of shit.
August 13, 2009 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
bobbobfofob
Also, drive this message home on twitter! @WholeFoods
August 13, 2009 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try Lifethyme, 6th ave betw 8th and 9th streets. Or join a CSA, there I think almost 20 now in NYC alone fed by area farms. He's wrong about this health care bill, clearly, but he IS right about eating whole foods (not the company, the actual foods). If our country ate sustainable food we would save so much money, be so much healthier, and reduce GHG emissions to a degree that we probably wouldn't need HCR or cap/trade. But yeah, try wresting the food industry from their conventional pro-profit, anti-labor, anti-environment fat + sugar schemes or corn/soy/wheat subsidies from Big Ag. Ain't easy.
August 13, 2009 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Darn my links. Lifethyme. Just Food for CSAs.
August 13, 2009 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
But, wait. Don't wingnuts always say that only liberal elites shop at Whole Foods. In fact, don't they say it's the only place we shop after we pick up a Soy Chai Latte from Starbucks? Then how can it be that the founder of Whole Foods isn't a patchouli, Birkenstock wearing dirty fucking hippie?
August 13, 2009 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
He is a savvy businessman who knows how to tap a growing market with an eye to the big bucks. This is his primary and final concern.
August 13, 2009 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
So he alienates his best customers?
So savvy....it defies conventional understanding!
Brilliant outside the box thinking!
August 13, 2009 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo. "Like Master P, makin' money, G".
My neck of the woods, we call Whole Foods "Outpost" & Starbucks "Alterra". But it's all slang for the same thang -- putting in a pool, getting a nanny for your kids, & doing loads of blow.
August 13, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a true fact. Ingenix, the data subsidiary of United HealthCare, has been working accessing credit card information so they can deny care if you ate too many big macs. See that would make you responsible for your heart attack and void your coverage.
August 13, 2009 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hitler was a vegetarian. There's always been lots of interest of the far right in whole foods. There aren't enough of them to keep him in business though.
August 13, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good bye Whole Foods and hello Harris Teeter!
August 13, 2009 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
This guy is cruisin' for a boycott bruisin'.
August 13, 2009 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's been anti-labor since the first Whole Foods opened it's doors.
August 13, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you. He calls employees "Team Members" for christ's sake.
August 13, 2009 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Snicker all you want, TPM, but this is just the beginning of a very nasty corporately funded media onslaught that targets Obama and the Dems. The US Chamber of Commerce has doubled, no, tripled down on outspending the Dems on media plugs and (mis)information campaigns that will be breaking in the next few days and weeks. The airwaves (both radio and TV) will be saturated with spots that push GOP/corporate talking points to counter Obama's agenda.
The really bad news is that the Dems don't have the $$$ to counter attack. The tide may be turning in a very ugly way right now.
August 13, 2009 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
You might want to look at the previous article. There will be millions of pro-reform money coming in next.
August 13, 2009 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thamnks, but this is a full court press on Obama's entire agenda, not just health care. Big Biz is going to throw a lot of money out to make people scared of Obama. The Big Money is aroused and going to start thundering: expect more stuff about socialism, huge deficits, higher taxes, big government, overspending and the rest of the GOP bill of fare. Health care is just the shiny object du jour. The full-on bullshit is coming.
August 13, 2009 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
The wealthy wingers I know are doing a lot of rumbling about "bloodless" revolution.
August 13, 2009 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let them bring it on. I'm ready.
August 13, 2009 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry but that is old news. And no, it won't gain nearly the traction you think it will. Why? Because 1. the Democrats have a lot more riding on passing health care reform, and 2. all the same old scare tactics/name-calling did not amount to a hill of beans in the presidential election...which Obama won handily. And health care was one of the prime issues. "Socialism, huge deficits, higher taxes, big government, overspending"...it was all done to scare people and failed miserably. Even with Big Business support. A loud, vocal minority right now makes it seem the situation is different. It has not. Obama's ratings are (still) over his actual winning percentage in November. Mid to upper 50s in fact. Claiming it will be doom and gloom now is exactly what the Repubs are hoping for because they really know they have little hope. Except to lie to people. Which is what they do. (See resident Republican poster here for Exhibit A.)
August 13, 2009 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
My info comes from the former CEO of a major marketing and PR company who was on Obama's counter-disinformation hit squad during the campaign. Her comment was that the campaign's anti-Obama propaganda was small potatoes compared to the war chest that the Chamber of Commerce is now ginning up. It may be old news for you, but the way she said, "You ain't seen nothin' yet," gave me cause to fret more than a little.
August 13, 2009 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of my employers (a multi-millionaire) and his peeps (equally flush) who have returned from a Cato symposium are ruminating in disturbing ways. I will add that they think themselves different than the "rabble" that is advancing the anti-government agenda, but they support the "uprising" and believe that the time has come to draw a line. They believe that only "the poor" and "losers" would defy an advance of a completely "new" government that gets back to the original mandates of the Constitution...which they see as largely based on the need for military defense and that's about it. I don't think they're kidding. These are well connected men.
August 13, 2009 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are correct/
Thjis is a full court press.
And the left bloggers are asleep at the wheel.
August 13, 2009 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought business was in favor of reform in order to get corporate health care spending under control?
August 13, 2009 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Health care reform isn't the only thing in Obama's agenda that's causing corporate agita.
August 13, 2009 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget, Whole Foods is from Texas, and you know how those people are....
August 13, 2009 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I enjoyed McCaskill the other day telling her audience how Missouri had enacted some of the toughest tort reform in the country. She then proclaimed lawsuits are way down.
Everyone cheered.
Then she asked how many are paying less on their health insurance.
*crickets*
She then pointed out California, Florida and Texas have also enacted tough laws and they haven't controlled prices at all.
The tort reform garbage might have helped out the doctors but it sure as hell didn't result in reductions in health insurance costs.
August 13, 2009 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I saw that too.
That needs much, much more play in the media.
August 13, 2009 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Business people only care about tort reform for two reasons: first, they think it will reduce insurance premiums and second, they think it will protect them from being sued. They have been convinced by the insurance companies that the problem is lawyers when, in fact, as in healthcare, the biggest single culprit for outrageous costs is the insurance companies themselves.
August 13, 2009 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Malpractice insurance/tort adds about 4% to our inflated healthcare costs, not insignificant, but a very small piece of the overall picture in getting healthcare costs under control.
August 13, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely...boycott and let's use this approach to show unity thru the purse!
August 13, 2009 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Urban Outfitters - the sequel.
August 13, 2009 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
A block or two away from the local Whole Foods store is the East Side Market. It is locally owned and operated, has much the same stuff, cheaper, and donates to local charities through a program whereby they collect cash register receipts from the market and receive a percentage of the total as a donation in return.
Guess which one I shop at? After reading that op-ed, guess how cold it would have to be in a place known for roasting temperatures before I'd return to Whole Foods?
August 13, 2009 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Whole Foods CEO is also unapologetically anti-union.
August 13, 2009 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. That's the chief reason that I don't shop there, although there are others.
He's also a big admirer of {shudder} Ayn Rand. And an asshole, as his sock puppetry during Whole Foods' takeover of Wild Oats revealed.
August 13, 2009 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's not "anti-union":
Whole Foods Market is one of only two Fortune 500 companies listed among the 25 Best Companies to Work For in 2005, a fact which Mackey ascribes to his pro-employee philosophy. He supports non-adversarial unions and advocates their legalization in the U.S. "It's illegal in the United States for there to be company unions — special unions which are formed and controlled by the employees and managers of the company to represent their interests and collectively bargain on their behalf. These type of unions are legal in many countries such as Japan, but are illegal in the United States. Instead the law requires that all unions be outside unions. I believe this law should be repealed and that company unions should be as legal as any other kind of voluntary association.
August 13, 2009 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Writes Mother Jones:
August 13, 2009 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you read what I put there?
Try this, from Wikipedia:
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As a CEO, John has been criticized in Leftist and union publications for advocating an anti-union business philosophy.[citation needed] He has elaborated on his Milton Friedman-inspired anti-union views in his pamphlet, "Beyond Unions," and in such statements as, "The union is like having herpes. It doesn't kill you, but it's unpleasant and inconvenient, and it stops a lot of people from becoming your lover."[16]
Mackey explains his perspective on unions:
"Unions as they evolved in the United States became very adversarial, untrusting, and opposed to the success and prosperity of the business. This is my major objection to unions today — they harm the flourishing of the business for all the stakeholders. Instead of cooperation between stakeholders, they focus on competition between management and labor. Instead of embracing the notion of the 'expanding pie' vision of capitalism — more for everyone, or win-win — they frequently embrace the zero-sum philosophy of win-lose."[17]
August 13, 2009 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
sounds sufficiently 'anti-union' to me.
saying "i'm all for unions, if by unions you mean something altogether different from what everyone else means when they talk about unions," doesn't make you anything but anti-union.
August 13, 2009 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Germany has a works council where workers and business owners coordinate and cooperate. Germany's not big on screaming and long, counterproductive strikes.
August 13, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
and again: supporting german corporatism* has nothing to do with supporting unions in the united states. and it doesn't give mackey any pro-union bona fides. that he wants to do away with unions in all but name and replace them with a corporatist system, makes him anti-union. and also a fantasist.
*and all you folks who throw the term 'corporatist' around, please pay attention. this is what it actually means.
August 13, 2009 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
He totally lost me after the Milton Friedman part.
To his credit, at least he did not call it "No worker left behind."
August 13, 2009 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh please. The guy's a Paultard free market cultist. Always has been, always will be. This is the same guy who compared having a union to having herpes.
Sorry if you're just finding out about it now.
If we only shopped at places run by people whose CEO's/owners weren't free market loons of some kind, our shopping choices would be rather severely constrained.
And Harris-Teeter? Are you kidding me? I shop there too, but it ain't because they're enlightened liberals. It's only because they're not Food Lion, the store that saves you money by not having half the shit you came there to buy.
But, as much as Food Lion, HT is run by union-busting monopolistic trogs. Their business strategy is to buy out the competition in an area and, if the employees are unionized, fire 'em all and staff from scratch. And then, worst of all (unless you're one of the canned employees), they HTify the product line.
Two of the saddest days in my grocery-shopping life were the days they bought out all the Big Stars and all the Krogers in North Carolina. Especially Big Star. That place ruled until HT got its mits on it.
August 13, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't aware of all of that although I guess I should have been. Sigh. I live in a suburb where the only choices are Giant (Safeway), Whole Foods and Harris Teeter. Oh, and farmer's markets, but they don't have toothpaste there.
August 13, 2009 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is this crazy theory that says that if we did shop only at such establishments, they would become more prevalent.
August 13, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whole Foods = Upscale Walmart.
August 13, 2009 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
So you're referring to union policies? Cuz around here we call it Whole Paycheck. At least Wal-Mart provides value for its customers which is more than I can say for Whole Foods.
August 13, 2009 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, by exploiting Chinese workers and peddling unsafe, lead-laden products.
Credit where credit is due, though -- at least Walmart came out in support of an employer mandate in health care reform.
But in terms of their anti-union obsession, they're indistinguishable.
August 13, 2009 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had read a few months ago he is a full wacko libretarian.
August 13, 2009 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
You mean like another Ron Paul?
August 13, 2009 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
He sounds like a Libertarian with all of those platitudes in his article. He hits em all, tort reform, more freedom, more choices, no regulation, blah blah.
August 13, 2009 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mackey: People should just try not being so poor all the time!
I wrote a point-by-point refutation of this op-ed here: http://bit.ly/zAMsN
August 13, 2009 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Boycott Whole Foods.
August 13, 2009 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here in the People's Republic of Portland Whole Foods has shut down all stores except the one in the 'Pearl' (formerly home of cheap apartments, SROs and now overpriced condo central) because we have a local store, New Seasons, which is local, better, cheaper, consumer friendly and socially conscious. The irony is the Wild Oats bought out the folks who had the original organic grocery stores in town - then Whole Foods bought out Wild Oats - then the contractual ban on the local folks opening an organic grocery ran out and boom! they put Whole Foods out of business. Karma can be fun
August 13, 2009 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am constantly amazed at what idiots the commentors here are. Did any of you actually read the WSJ article or are you content to tee off on Buetler's mis-characterization of the well regarded suggestion to eat nutritionally?
Which part of everyone working 30 or more hours is covered didn't you like? How about the $1800 a year they donate to each employee for their health savings account? Didn't like that either? Maybe you found the attitudes of the Canadian and Brit employees without merit?
The Whole Foods plan works well, doesn't bankrupt the company, pleases the employees and apparently everyone wins. If you are going to bash Whole Foods why not do it with a cogent idea rather than loutish, lazy, mob emotionalism. "Smart" definitely does not describe this crowd.
August 13, 2009 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't even know what to do with an $1800 health savings account...unless of course I am forced to pay for my own insurance with it in which case it's no real advantage to my company paying my premiums. HSAs are a huge pain in the ass to manage. I have to know in advance how much I am going to spend in a year, keep all my receipts and manage a cumbersome reimbursement system. No thanks.
August 13, 2009 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would pay for two months of meh coverage for me at Kaiser.
August 13, 2009 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you had read the article you would have seen that the $1800 doesn't go away at the end of the year, and accumulates with interest. Duh.
August 13, 2009 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
People don't have medical insurance shouldn't try to explain what they don't understand to people who actually pay retail for their coverage/
It doesn't make you are your assholic friend McKay look too good around people who know something about the subject.
Health Savings accounts are utterly useless...
especially when one is paying almost ten grand a year for very average coverage who a big copay.
August 13, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
$1800 going towards an HSA.
$2500 deductible.
How is this a win for employees?
August 13, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, because they're picking up 100% of the insurance, whereas many many employees are paying say 1/4-1/2 of their insurance. So Whole Foods employees pay $700 of the deductible *IF* they get sick, otherwise they pay nothing, and everyone has low premiums.
Shooter, I think we've got a surly crowd brewing, better lock up the alcohol.
August 13, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nor does it describe you.
August 13, 2009 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, shooter242, you're obviously suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome. You're unhinged! It's okay; happens to a lot of people. Go lie down, or maybe breathe into a paper bag for a while.
August 13, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep - don't bankrupt the company - just bankrupt the family. $1800 per year for an HSA is a joke. Like someone else posted, that is at most 2 months of real health insurance coverage.
August 13, 2009 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys are just amazing. That's IN ADDITION to their health care insurance. DUH.
Are you people mind-numbed robots???
August 13, 2009 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just read the whole stupid thing at the WSJ. My god what an amoral asshole this guy is. He makes the point over and over that individual human beings have absolutely no right to healthcare here in American or anywhere else. Nice maybe if you want to drop a few pennies in the bucket for some sick and dying person, but no moral obligation whatsoever. My god what a self important greedy fucking asshole! The problem is just that everything that happens to you in life is your own fault and you should have been smart and made tons of money like me ..... duh!
He shamelessly promotes the completely baseless idea that Canadians and British have a rationing system that they all hate and would trade for our "free to die" system in America. Do these guys ever get tired of lying about Canada??? I have lots of Canadian friends and they LOVE their system and would NEVER trade it for American "survival of the fittest/richest" and not just because it is immoral, but because they have better outcomes for their people with much much much lower costs! How do these corporate assholes sleep at night?
Finally, I find it so sad that these Ayn Rand devotees always think that what ever millions and billions of dollars they stuff in their greedy pockets is somehow "THEIR MONEY" and at the same time the fact that there are millions and millions of fellow Americans suffering and often dying for lack of simple treatable medical care is just not "THEIR PROBLEM". Look at Wall Street my friends to understand that in America the rich and the filthy rich make up the rules to suit themselves and leave everyone else to suffer. Simple common sense would lead you to understand that a system where income is REDISTRIBUTED UPWARD to make a handful of sociopaths into billionaires and millions into beggars is a FUCKED UP SYSTEM!
August 13, 2009 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
As for the attitude of his Canadian and British employees, we have only his word for it, not easy to trust when the rest of the editorial shows that he was ignorant or lying on many other points. In neither country would it make much sense. In Canada for dental, perhaps, since that isn't covered, but he didn't say dental, did he? I'd like to know what medical expenses his Canadian employees felt they had to cover on their own. Private rooms in hospitals? Cosmetic plastic surgery? Tanning salons?
I think he was just talking out of his ass.
August 13, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really hate this blame the victim crap that Mackey is selling here.
I grew up on exactly the kind of diet that Mackey thinks is the solution to the nation's health problems. I had a very healthy lifestyle, never smoked, always wore seatbelts, etc. Nevertheless, I was diagnosed with cancer as a young adult.
Luckily I was still covered as a student under my parents' health plan at the time and was treated successfully.
However, within a few years, I found myself having to make impossible choices; COBRA premiums along with the costs of receiving my needed follow-up care were slightly more than my monthly income, leaving nothing for food or rent or gas. I was able to scrape by for a short while on savings (which were pretty meager - how much were you able to save when you were in grad school?), but soon found myself without insurance. And that fact shaped every major decision of my young life, from where I lived, whether I could continue my education, what I did for a living, and when and how I got married...
Yes, I did find a couple of insurance companies that offered to sell me a policy, at exorbitant rates, high deductibles and co-pays, and with a permanent exclusion on anything that had to do with my cancer or my treatments. Since the treatments could have impact on pretty much every system in my body, such insurance was useless to me.
I could find no insurance company who was stupid enough to think that healthy diet was going to make up for the fact that I would routinely need fairly expensive monitoring tests and that there was a significant chance that I would need some very, very expensive treatments: either in the near future in the case that I relapsed, or in the more distant future if I developed any of the myriad long-term or late effects of the treatment I received.
So I'm exactly the kind of person that this Mackey idiot thinks didn't need health insurance reform - and exactly the kind of person who needed it most.
For last couple of decades I have pretty much avoided shopping at Whole Paycheck for a variety of reasons, including having better alternatives - but have recently started shopping there more often, ironically, after meeting a recently-hired employee who was enthusiastic about the benefits, including health care.
Well, f*** that.
I'm going to make sure that Mackey knows exactly why I am no longer spending one red dime of my money at WF.
August 13, 2009 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
NitPicker, obviously, you brought all that on yourself. Er, or your parents did. Or someone did. Dammit, I want to pigeonhole you in such a way that I can claim there's no problem that needs to be addressed! Why won't you fit a stereotype?!?
August 13, 2009 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I absolutely do fit a stereotype - that of a survivor of a young adult cancer.
August 13, 2009 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is WholeFoods's corporate number:
512-477-5566
August 13, 2009 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lovely exposition of this greedy, anti-labor, charlatan. He knows there is a market of upscale food conscious types he can cash in on. Genuine notions of integrated balanced living have nothing to do with Mackey's angle. I don't patronize WF; my closest market.
August 13, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
A few years ago I would walk to a swim club about a mile away, shop at WF then carry two bags home. Last year I started riding light rail to another swim club, shopping at another WF, then riding home.
But Whole Foods house brand, 365, hasn't been getting such good reviews lately. And now this.
August 13, 2009 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
(1) I called both WF stores we shop at, and told them I'll shop there no more.
(2) Called corporate HQ and told them the same.
PLEASE CALL YOUR LOCAL STORE (www.wholefoodsmarket.com/company/service.php) AND CALL HQ (512.477.4455).
August 13, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the phone number. Just left a message for Whole Foods HQ.
August 13, 2009 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
i like this.
August 13, 2009 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whole Foods, not so much. Trader Joes, just as much fun and cheaper. Also, Joes is a German owned Company that offers health care beneifts even to part-time employees.
August 13, 2009 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
As an enthusiastic Trader Joe's shopper, I can't figure out why anyone would go to WF and spend that much more for the same stuff.
Besides, for organic vegetables you are better off at your local farmer's market.
August 13, 2009 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Trader Joes is really not a good alternative. Massive amounts of junk food. Very little in the way of sustainable produce. And there's this about their "organic" milk. Imho it's best to entirely avoid WF and TJ if possible. Go for a smaller, local place if you can. May cost a little more, but at least you'll be supporting a small biz that carries local organic/sustainable products.
August 13, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good to know. Lately TJ's has gotten to be my primary grocery anyway, and for local produce I go to the farmers' market.
August 13, 2009 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
“We sell a bunch of junk,” John Mackey declared.
August 13, 2009 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the DC metropolitan area, we also have the alternative of MOMs Organic Markets. Whole Foods is history in our household (I was actually unaware that they were union-busters too). Boycotting Whole Foods will be a snap.
August 13, 2009 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
CEO John Mackey, The BOARD would like to speak with you this Afternoon.
What a Tool - Another rich "libertarian" - if that isn't redundant.
August 13, 2009 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Time to systematically organize a NATIONAL BOYCOTT of Whole Foods -- and teach these Neanderthals a lesson. By the middle of September, WF will be laying off thousands of workers, and its so-called CEO will start singing a different toon -- if the administration hasn't already sold out the American people by then...
August 13, 2009 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Administration has not and will not "sell out the American people." Have a little faith and some patience. Obama is doing what he can at the pace he can do it.
August 13, 2009 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just beginning to warm up to Whole Foods, thanks to their 365 brand. Thanks to that WSJ op-ed, I'll never shop there again. I will also communicate to their headquarters.
Fortunately, I just discovered a great independent market whose prepared foods outshine WF's by far ... and it's right here in Maywood, NJ.
August 13, 2009 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Meliss,
What's the name/address? I work nearby. Thx
August 13, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tchamp, it's Maywood Market Place, 78 W. Pleasant in Maywood. Prepared food is much better than at WF, and much more reasonably priced. Unfortunately the wine/liquor store next door is spendy; I will miss the bargain wines at the Paramus WF. Oh well!
August 13, 2009 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
My shopping at Whole Foods just ceased. Brilliant move, Moron Mackey.
August 13, 2009 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Mackey is about to get a rude awakening on why libertarianism doesn't work: Responsibility and Freedom can be polar opposites sometimes and we're just not going to be responsible enough to take health reform to heart.
August 13, 2009 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. I've been shopping less at Whole Foods lately anyway, but this is the last straw. From now on it's Trader Joe's, the local organic market, the farmers' market in season, and Food Lion.
August 13, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I lived in NYC, Fairway would've been better anyway. Even the original small one. Other places I've lived, or do now live, always have had better alternatives. And I'd have said that even before hearing Mr. Mackay's advice.
August 13, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
So help me understand: Eating Whole Foods products will render me invulnerable to personal injury in a bad car crash? That is so KOOL!
And inoculate me against Influenza A H1N1 (current iteration)?? What a deal!
Where can I get me some!
August 13, 2009 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
To some extent, his message is right on. Being smarter is a good idea, even if it isn't easier. Still, valves go, gaskets and seals get compromised, and gunk builds up. Even eating the way my family does is certain to end in death.
My fear is that I'll have my heart attack before age 50, with no savings or insurance, or that I'll get the Swine Flu again this fall. I probably wouldn't die, but without fast action brain damage could take my IQ down below where it has to be to keep doing what I do. My wife and children would also suffer my heart attack.
And since we all have them, men, women, blacks... do hispanic people get heart attacks? Anyway, I can't understand why we don't just buy in bulk. RNC is stupid.
August 13, 2009 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't have enough motivation to actually do this, but it would be great to stand in front of whole foods and show this op-ed to all of the people walking in. Although I rarely shop there, I live right by one and see the people that do shop there. Not the type of crowd that would be happy about this op-ed. It is at least an 80%-20% pro-Obama crowd.
August 13, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hold in my hand a can of 365 Organic Vegetable Soup. This is a Whole Foods branded can of soup.
If I eat the entire 14.5 ounce can of soup I will be dosed with 340 mg. of sodium; according to the label, that's around 56% of anyone's daily value.
Clearly, crackers are probably not a good idea.
I will also be dosed with...not much else, in the way of nutrition. Seriously: even though it is vegan and organic, it is a nutritional void.
August 13, 2009 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just printed 30 copies of the Wall Street Op Ed and will be passing them out to customers at the WHole Foods down the street. It is mostly frequented by the dirtiest, f@ckingest hippies I've ever seen....they need to know. I urge you all to do the same and ask those you talk with to follow suit.
August 13, 2009 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good Work.
I sent this to friends that may shop there. I hope they stop.
The funny part is that the people who shop at the whole foods by my house would probably refuse to take a copy of this because it is printed on paper! Which again raises the question, does this guy not realize that people using reusable grocery bags to save the forests aren't going to be too impressed with this OP-ED?
August 13, 2009 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I met a clerk at Whole Foods while I was wearing a "Quality Affordable Health Care for ALL" sticker. She asked what it was about and I told her I'm an advocate for health care reform. She was thrilled. Told me after 5 years on the job she finally got on Whole Foods insurance plan. So happy she finally go the dentist for only a $30 co-pay.
After reading that op-ed guess where I won't be shopping anymore.
August 13, 2009 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with not shopping there anymore is that I actually like the people who work at the two that I visit. Too bad.
August 13, 2009 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guess I'll be spending more at Trader Joe's!
August 13, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear [local WF outlet],
I was recently made aware of Whole Foods' CEO, John Mackey's position on our nations health care policy in an editorial he wrote the Wall Street Journal. I wanted you to know that although Whole Foods has been my primary grocery outlet since it opened, I will no longer be shopping there. Further, I will be influencing all of my friends to think twice about supporting your company with their patronage. We need action on the President's health care efforts that does not pander to ineffective conservative talking points. We need not water down the urgency of universal coverage with platitudes and thinly veiled marketing ploys for your company's products.
Thank you,
RangerMac
August 13, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
PLEASE TAKE A FEW MIN's TO READ AND COMMENT....
Yet, I am deeply concerned that the John Mackey, the "Hippy Hoover's" ideas are gaining traction, and am very disappointed in Obama's and, especially, congressional Dems handling of the health care issue to date. Too many of them are, at their cores, frightened soles.
The larger questions I'd really like to hear some feedback on are--
If there is a growing anti-government movement at a time when more and more Americans have never needed government more, what does it portend for the next few years?
If Obama is defeated on this issue-or given a Health Care Bill that is a sham and a shell--despite 60 Dems in the Senate, the support or acquiesence of the AMA, AARP, Pharmaceuticals, and the real reluctance of much of the insurance industry to oppose this with the resources and zeal they did in 1994 (because they know Obama is offering them the best deal they are are likely ever to get again)what, really, will be left of the Obama presidency?
Do you have faith that enough congressional Democrats have the fortitude to see beyond the shouters and daily polls and push this baby through?
Do any other readers feel, as I do, that the best shot Obama and the Dems have for future electoral success is to govern as if they were only going to have one term and do the right thing now?
Do any others feel that, if by a miracle real health care reform does make it, that most people will forget what it was they were against or uncertain about in the fist place?
Warning to Blue Dogs and the timid---trying to be GOP lites is almost certain to bring you one reward--Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader McConnell in 2011.
August 13, 2009 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you notice the source he cites for the supposed deficiencies of the UK and Canada systems? Investors Business Daily, the rag that published an editorial a few days ago using Stephen Hawking as an example of the lives that would be rejected as worthless by Obama's death panels. Their actual words:
"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
Hawking, of course has always lived in the UK, and said this a few days after the editorial appeared:
"I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived."
August 13, 2009 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, I thought that the editorial made a lot of sense. There are too many incentives to pop a pill or get some fancy expensive procedure in the current system--it feels like you're getting something for nothing! It makes sense to incentivise cheaper alternatives, which in a lot of cases are actually wiser alternatives. High deductible plans with low premiums coupled with a savings account are a worthy idea. Taxing (or not taxing) employer-based and personal premiums the same is a worthy idea. The majority of this thread is a knee-jerk reaction to boycott Whole Foods--how about engaging the proposals with some deliberation?
August 13, 2009 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reason for the strong reaction is that the author relied upon many canards being bandied about by lobbying groups aimed at scaring the American public. For example the wait times in Canada, the costs of malpractice insurance and its impact on the overall cost of healthcare. It would appear that despite his offering some potentially useful suggestions, Mackey shows that he has bought into most of the talking points of those in favor of the status quo, which in turn blinds him to other good solutions already on the table.
August 13, 2009 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. It is just the usual right-wing talking points. Socialized medicine in Canada is terrible/med malpractice lawuits/more freedom/less regulation/ on an on and on. It's not about policy, it is about philosophy for this guy. He is a libertarian and just thinks this way. We know, for example, that malpractice lawsuits are barely even a drop in the bucket of costs and that Canadian health care is pretty good. His OP-ED reads more like a manifesto.
August 13, 2009 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dearest sloppypig~ I would say the editorial was the knee-jerk reaction to reform. He attemptes the same old lies as answers to the same big problems. Tort reform has been implemented in many states with absolutely no measurable effect because it was such a tiny fraction of costs and because the doctors and insurance companies just pocket the savings. Right wingers love to demonize lawyers until they think they can sue the pants off someone for problem they might encounter in their own lives. Complete hypocrites.
August 13, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just yesterday my wife was saying that we need to try the Sprouts store near us. This is a perfect reason to start shopping there, and not at the Whole Foods nearby. I've been a WF shopper since I went to college in Austin and shopped at the original one, but there's no reason to support this nonsense.
August 13, 2009 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
hey! me too and just wrote the same below--forgot about Sprouts; will have to check it out; thanks
August 13, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
He hasn't "bought into" anything. He knows exactly what he's doing.
August 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent example of the exercise of free speech. Similar to my not shopping there any more, except with a bigger effect on the stock price. BTW, I hear they're going out of business tomorrow.
August 13, 2009 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cancer treatment is chaper than shopping at Whole Foods.
August 13, 2009 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
curses to you whole food! Mackey is an idiot.
August 13, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
while stupid and ridiculous, this does touch indirectly on a key part of health-care reform that MSM has only paid lip service to thus far: americans are unhealthy. obesity has skyrocketed, making for all kinds of expensive health problems that lead to higher health costs for everyone. we're obese in part because processed food is loaded with, among other unhealthy stuff, high-fructose corn syrup. HFCS is so plentiful because of government subsidies and tariffs that protect big corn growers like Archer Daniels Midland, which was instrumental in getting the subsidies and tariffs put in place. any serious discussion of health-care reform must take this into consideration.
August 13, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I primarily shop at WHole Foods and the farmers market. I will shop at only one of those now, guess which one. Anybody want to pick stores in Houston, Tx with me???
August 13, 2009 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me know what you find, the Houston WF has gotten a lot of business from me when I'm there. :-(
August 13, 2009 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Been a customer since the first store in Austin. No longer and let them--AND MOST OF MY FRIENDS ADN FAMILY--know it.
Alternatives in the Dallas, TX area are farmers markets, New Flower Market, HEB Central Market. . . Let me know if there are better alternatives.
Thanks for the info. I hope they get the message.
August 13, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't afford WF very often, but I dropped in one day and bought a few pounds of my favorite apples which are not always available elsewhere. They were horrible. Tasteless, mealy soft and outlandishly large. I took them back the next day and got my money back.
August 13, 2009 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mackey's op-ed is farther to the right than even most Republicans - he seems to oppose any regulation on insurance companies including requirements for covering people regardless of pre-existing conditions.
He also buttresses his case by quoting Investors Business Daily, an off-the-deep-end wingnut rag - you know, the one that lamented that Stephen Hawking wouldn't be treated if he lived in the UK (which of course he does).
This is really extreme, far-right stuff. I love Whole Foods, but I'm not putting my money there anymore.
August 13, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice... a two-fer...slam on health care AND a commercial for Whole Foods. From now on, he can take his "whole food" and shove it.
And wasn't I saying not too long ago that the WSJ has turned into a corporate rag? Just goes to show...
August 13, 2009 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've never been to a Whole Foods, or even seen one. Considering how everything I've heard is that it's ridiculously expensive, I'm kinda surprised by how many people say they shopped there in the first place.
Then again, I do live in Flyover Country.
August 13, 2009 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a true fact. Ingennix, the data subsidiary of United HealthCare, has been working accessing credit card information so they can deny care if you ate too many big macs. See that would make you responsible for your heart attack and void your coverage.
August 13, 2009 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hear that raw steak works well on a black eye.
August 13, 2009 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whole Foods in Portlandm Ore area has 5 stores. Portland goes about 80% progressive democrat. Since WF just decided to spit on the values of all its customers, Portlanders can decide they would rather shop New Seasons and Trader Joe's.
WF hates universal health care, WF hates unions. Screw'em.
August 13, 2009 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think this guy has any idea how many pennies I had to pinch to afford my Birkenstocks. How can I possibly afford to shop at Whole Foods?
August 13, 2009 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw WF. Screw John Mackey.
I think he might want to shut up and keep his asinine wignnut claptrap to himself, lest progressive minded shoppers get repulsed and go elsewhere.
August 13, 2009 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you, as an individual, are considering boycotting, it's worth considering all of the individuals, organic farmers, and progressive companies that would be hurt by this boycott, if not put out of business. I don't support Mackie's position on health care, and have been a progressive liberal and a delegate for Jackson in '88 and Harkin in '92, but I support his right to express it. (I'm biased, as the domestic partner of a Whole Foods cheesemonger, covered by the company's health insurance after six months of co-habitation.)
August 13, 2009 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
But... but... he disagrees with Obama. He must be stoned.
His position is something approaching rational for a Republican. Rather than engaging on substance on explaining why they disagree, the CEO becomes the devil. Just like what the wing niuts are doing to Obama. What happened to rational dialogue with those who are capable of it?
August 13, 2009 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Disclaimer: I'm an avid Whole Foodie. I admire the business model of promoting locally grown, small vendors, organic products, sustainability etc. I'm not going to stop shopping there because the CEO voiced an opinion I disagree with on health care reform. That's even more nutty than the Baptists boycotting Disney because of a corporate policy allowing health benefits to gay partners of employees.
August 13, 2009 9:36 PM