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Eric Kleefeld | September 1, 2009, 10:01AM

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Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) spoke yesterday to the right-wing Independence Institute, the Colorado Independent reports, and she called on conservative to really come together in the fight against President Obama on health care.

"What we have to do today is make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing," said Bachmann. "This will not pass. We will do whatever it takes to make sure this doesn't pass."

The sanguinary rhetoric continued. "Right now, we are looking at reaching down the throat and ripping the guts out of freedom," she said. "And we may never be able to restore it if we don't man up and take this one on."

Bachmann also denounced a system under which some Americans pay half their income in taxes: "It's nothing more than slavery."

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September 1, 2009 10:03 AM

sounds like a great idea.

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September 1, 2009 10:10 AM in reply to nova voter

Yup. Just do it!

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Docb

September 1, 2009 10:39 AM in reply to Moose49

She is doing the job of slitting her own wrists for us...Thank you Michille!

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September 1, 2009 1:14 PM in reply to Moose49

Don't fear the reaper!

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September 1, 2009 6:21 PM in reply to Moose49

Make sure the razor is sharp Michelle. We wouldn't want you to miss.

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September 1, 2009 2:14 PM in reply to nova voter

Why should we include people like her in the debate about health care? I'm telling ya it's a cult.

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September 1, 2009 4:25 PM in reply to Chris

Actually, she sounds like she's in desperate need of some kind of health care; psychological help before the slit, emergency room after the slit (if the psychology doesn't work, of course.)

But then she'd have to see a shrink, and I perceive that peabrain can't be shrunk any further.

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holyhandgrenaid

September 1, 2009 10:07 AM

Just remember Michelle, its down the road, not across the street...

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September 1, 2009 12:31 PM in reply to holyhandgrenaid

Hey! What are you trying to do?
We just want her marginalized, and preferably institutionalized(and give her a Pepsi) for her own good.
It's pretty clear that she is either deranged, or a sociopath.
Crossing the street will get her that eval, without garnering the sympathy that usually attends to martyrs.

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September 1, 2009 12:47 PM in reply to kenga

Actually Im for the down the street route, for the very reason that she will get followers, i mean martyrs.

Its called Natural Selection man.

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September 1, 2009 10:14 AM

Slitting your wrists because you think that's the way to become blood brothers... sounds like a great way to win a Darwin Award.

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September 1, 2009 10:21 AM in reply to CN

wouldn't that be ironic?

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September 1, 2009 10:41 AM in reply to CN

sHHH! Michelle -- go ahead and so it, but if you REALLY want to convince people you should sever that big one in your neck at the same time; preferably while sitting in a very hot bath tub. Go ahead -- "man up!"

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ADad

September 1, 2009 12:49 PM in reply to CN

Shorter Bachmann: "Hey y'all! Watch this!!"

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henk

September 1, 2009 1:29 PM in reply to CN

Very nicely put.

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September 1, 2009 10:26 AM

Thank you, Michele. You make it so much easier to run a candidate against you when you bestow precious gems like that upon us.

Please, as a favor to your constituents and to anyone else who longs to see a sane member of Congress representing the 6th CD, please don't stop talking. In fact, if you can possibly ratchet up the goofy a bit more, we would be so grateful to you.

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The Old Grouch

September 1, 2009 10:30 AM

Cut deep, Michele.

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September 1, 2009 1:16 PM in reply to The Old Grouch

UP the veins, not across

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Moe

September 1, 2009 10:32 AM

Might want to check your health insurance co-pay first before you do that...

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September 1, 2009 11:06 AM in reply to Moe

Don't worry about the health insurance. But do look into pre-paid burial.

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rb6

September 1, 2009 11:55 AM in reply to Moe

It's true. Self-inflicted injuries are usually in the list of exclusions, though I think a lot of states have banned this one -- doesn't seem fair to the truly suicidal.

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September 1, 2009 12:50 PM in reply to Moe

I think this is one procedure the Insurance companies would approve of as long as its down the street

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September 1, 2009 10:55 AM

Funny thing is, most insurance companies will not cover self-inflicted injuries!

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September 1, 2009 11:05 AM

"It's nothing more than slavery."

Really, Michelle. I'll bet Jaycee Dugard would disagree.

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September 1, 2009 11:06 AM

Remember Michele, it's up the arm, not across the wrist.

And oh, would it be possible to get you to make the cut with a rusty tin can lid? And it would really make my day if you did it on live TV, so we know you're serious rather than just talking out your ass.

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September 1, 2009 11:15 AM

Wait a minute, Michelle. Before y'all slit your wrists, please consider the merits of immolation. What better way to make your point? And like cwnidog suggested, do it on live TV.

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September 1, 2009 11:15 AM

What Americans are paying 50% of their earnings in taxes??

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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

September 1, 2009 11:29 AM in reply to wvbiker

The imaginary inhabitants of the Real America that exists in her and the other teabaggers' heads, of course. Poor buggers. Freedoms being taken away, one by one, wretchedly oppressed by the cruel taxes imposed by the brutal, subhuman invading brown hoards who have seized control of their beloved country. Time to water the tree of liberty with their patriot blood, evidently, as their ideal, Jefferson would have wanted. (Now there was a guy who knew how to deal with the Brown Menace.)

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September 1, 2009 11:59 AM in reply to wvbiker

12.4 fica
2.9 medicare
28 federal (35% is max, but fica goes to 0 by then)
9.3 CA state tax

= 52.6 / (100+(12.4+2.9)/2) = 48.8%

pretty close (at least marginally) before counting consumption and property taxes.

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September 1, 2009 12:28 PM in reply to storm

Storm, while the highest rate is in fact about 50% I think Bachmann was referring to paid taxes. As far as I've ever heard, the tax rate is not actually paid by high income earners since they have so many deductions. The highest 'effective tax rate' may be more in the range of 30%. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/88xx/doc8885/EffectiveTaxRates.shtml

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September 1, 2009 12:54 PM in reply to storm

The effective federal income-tax rate on the top 1% of earners was 22.5% in 2007 -- which was about four percentage points lower than in 1987, the first year the Reagan tax overhaul was in effect.

Which of course raises the question: Why was Reagan such a crazed socialist?

Data at http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/250.html; scroll down to Table 8

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September 1, 2009 1:01 PM in reply to storm

You're not too far off, but let's not forget that state and local income tax and property taxes are federally deductible. That alone reduces effective CA state income tax to about 6.7% for the taxpayer in the 28% federal bracket. And all these are marginal rates, of course.

Consumption taxes, FICA and Medicare are quite regressive, too.

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September 1, 2009 2:23 PM in reply to storm

Hmmm, storm. My husband and I made about 100,000 last year.
Our fed tax was about $17,000 (we were, as is everyone, taxed on the adjusted gross income, not the gross). So 28% was actually 17%. In addition, our CA taxes were about $4,000: same deal as fed. Let's behonest here.

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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

September 1, 2009 2:57 PM in reply to soupson52

Geez, no wonder people spend all their time so mad about taxes. No one in this whole damn country except lawyers and accountants seems to understand how marginal tax rates work.

If you're in the 28% bracket, you're not paying 28% of your gross. Most people get that. What they don't get is that you're also not paying 28% of your adjusted gross. Instead (this year, if you're single), you pay 10% of your AGI between 0 and 8,350, 15% on AGI between 8,351 and 33,950, 25% on AGI between 33,951 and 82,250, and 28% only on income over $82,251 (up to 171,550 where the next bracket kicks in).

If you are single and your AGI is at the top end of the 28% bracket, $171,550, your effective tax rate is about 24.3%. That's the most anyone (who's filing single this year) will ever pay if they're in the 28% bracket. The less deep you are into a bracket, the lower your effective rate.

And if you're in the tippy-top bracket it's practically guarenteed that your effective rate is going to be reduced by capital gains or losses, not to mention the ten zillion other ways you have of reducing your taxes up there.

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September 1, 2009 4:07 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

That looks like commie 'rithmatic to me, boy.

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September 1, 2009 5:20 PM in reply to storm

The more important figure when figuring taxes is not how much tax is paid by any one individual, it is how much is left over to spend on themselves.

A person making 250,000 per year in a 25% tax bracket is paying $62,500 in taxes. They still have $187,500 to spend on living high.

A person earning $50,000 in a 0% tax bracket, while paying no income taxes, still has only $50,000 to spend on living high.

What is "fair"?
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September 2, 2009 10:04 AM in reply to Johann

Who is in a 0% tax bracket with an income of $50,000?

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September 1, 2009 11:40 AM

Throats, Michelle. For the blood covenant to stick these days, you have to slit your throats.

Best of luck going forward.

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September 1, 2009 11:49 AM

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

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September 1, 2009 12:54 PM in reply to billp

"And, apparently, vice versa." - nova voter

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September 1, 2009 11:56 AM

She makes it so easy it's almost not worth responding.

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September 1, 2009 12:03 PM

If we have to put her on a suicide watch, then will even the wingnuts accept that she's crazy?

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September 1, 2009 12:04 PM

Who are these people overpaying their taxes by 15-50%?

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September 1, 2009 12:41 PM

Yes, they should definitely start with slitting their wrists.

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TorqueSmackey

September 1, 2009 12:44 PM

Hey, I know she totally invited the suicide jokes, but maybe we shouldn't encourage a discourse that urges congresspeople to commit suicide. That way, the next time some crazy person starts talking about how they'd like to see the President dead, they can't point fingers at "the left" for doing the same thing.

I know that Bachmann comes from an entirely different planet than you and I, but we should probably mock her within reason, and not with jokes about death. I'm sure, like me, most of you are angry about the pastor from AZ and from the sports columnist who made the Nancy Pelosi assassination joke, so maybe we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Just a thought.

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commie atheist

September 1, 2009 1:04 PM in reply to TorqueSmackey

Well, given that Ms. Bachmann herself is the one who is suggesting that opponents of health care reform should "slit our wrists," I don't think the comparison is very apt. Telling Michelle to kill herself is one thing; when she suggests that she might do it herself, however, the only reasonable response is mockery.

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TorqueSmackey

September 1, 2009 1:13 PM in reply to commie atheist

Mockery is one thing, but there are numerous comments on this page telling Bachmann, in no uncertain terms, to kill herself. Aren't we supposed to be above that? What makes these comments "jokes" and other death-threat humor a serious issue to be addressed?
I just think we should be careful, because I think any dialogue like this is harmful to the perception of "liberals" by the rest of the country. It just becomes fodder for wingnuts.

Plus: Isn't Bachmann so much more useful to us alive, as a constant source of laughter?

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September 1, 2009 2:40 PM in reply to TorqueSmackey

Plus: Isn't Bachmann so much more useful to us alive, as a constant source of laughter?

If Bachmann offs herself in some overzealous suicide pact, how many of her acolytes do you suppose would be willing to pick up the knife and follow suite? I'm guessing that any rational person left on her side of the divide would run far, far away from her insanity. Anyone left to defend or justify her wackiness would be immediately ostracized from civilized humanity. Joan of Arc she ain't and having her cabal fall apart with her self-imposed exit (stage right) sounds good to me.

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September 1, 2009 3:45 PM in reply to TorqueSmackey

Naw, she'd be much more useful leading her wingnut followers in mass suicide.

She brought it up. We are just endorsing her idea.

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September 1, 2009 5:14 PM in reply to TorqueSmackey

"What makes these comments 'jokes' and other death-threat humor a serious issue to be addressed?"

The difference is that we're not making threats, we're jokingly agreeing with a suggestion she herself made. Because we're not threatening violence, it's a valid form of expression.

Is it macabre? Perhaps. Lacking in class? You could make an argument. But it's certainly not a serious issue in the same vein as people suggesting, implicitly or otherwise, that violent overthrow of the government is appropriate or that the president should die.

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SOS ICEBERG

September 1, 2009 1:24 PM in reply to TorqueSmackey

Nah, I'm gonna roll the dice. It'd be great if she committed suicide. On TV.

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September 2, 2009 10:07 AM in reply to TorqueSmackey

Oh, for heaven's sake IT WAS MICHELLE BACHMANN WHO BROUGHT UP THE NOTION OF GROUP WRIST-SLITTING!

To conflate that with crazy pastors who pray for our President's death, and people stocking up on bullets and coming to his events armed with rifles and handguns -- get a grip!

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September 1, 2009 12:44 PM

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!

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ADad

September 1, 2009 12:56 PM

Why make it so messy? Why not just stay with the Kool-Aid?

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Middle Road

September 1, 2009 12:59 PM

I would just like to say I am totally on board with this. In fact I would very much like to provide her with a knife.

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September 1, 2009 1:02 PM in reply to Middle Road

A chainsaw subtly applied would do the trick nicely.

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September 1, 2009 1:20 PM

No Log Cabin Republicans need apply to Michelle's blood "covenant". Cain't trust their blood, doncha know?

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Savannah Evans

September 1, 2009 1:21 PM

So basically Michelle Bachmann is sympathetic to the psychotic Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction? This can only be excellent news for Republicans.

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henk

September 1, 2009 1:25 PM

No no Michelle please please (here's a razor blade) don't slit you wrists, (length ways not cross ways) oh please Michelle stop (deeper) stop.

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September 1, 2009 1:46 PM

Hmmm. According to some sources, it's a guy thing -- did you ever hear of blood sisters? That raises some gender confusion issues about Bachmann.

Also from the article: "In addition to the danger of blood loss or infection, blood brotherhood-type ceremonies pose a high risk of HIV infection." Now, wouldn't that be ironic?

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atticus1104

September 1, 2009 2:06 PM

Republicans like Bachmann will do and say anything to kill health care. Watch this video of Hannity and guest claiming that Democrats care more about Kennedy's vote than they do about Kennedy himself.

Just vulgar!

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2764

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ohyeathatsright

September 1, 2009 2:27 PM

Wow...just wow.

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indianadave

September 1, 2009 2:28 PM

You go first Michele, show us how it's done, be a leader.
Please ask Sarah to join you on your leadership task.

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September 1, 2009 3:36 PM

Michelle, I just sharpened the hell outta my machete so I could cut some brush with it, but I would be more than willing to loan it to you for your "bloody brother" thingey..... Make sure you swing it really hard, it has enough mass to cleave the bones....

Have fun Repigs... Looks like a great day in the asylum!

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September 1, 2009 4:17 PM

Yea, go for it.

What a lunatic.

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September 1, 2009 4:18 PM

Video at 11?

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September 1, 2009 4:20 PM in reply to JEP07

OK, lets vote;
Would you rather see Bachman slit her wrists or "man up!"

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September 1, 2009 4:45 PM

Can someone please get this woman a new hat? The tinfoil isn't working.
http://www.stopabductions.com/

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September 1, 2009 4:56 PM

Would somebody please explain to her that, by definition, paying half your income in taxes is not "nothing more than slavery." Hell, paying 90% of your income in taxes isn't slavery. Does she know what the word "slavery" means?

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ejg3

September 1, 2009 5:29 PM

Her official tax payer paid web page (socialism?) states that she and her husband own a small mental health center. The old line about the shoemaker's kids having no shoes is still true.

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September 3, 2009 11:44 PM in reply to ejg3

I didn't believe this at first but it is true.

http://www.bachmanncounseling.com/index.html

Make sure to take the time to go to the list of counselors and browse down.

http://www.bachmanncounseling.com/counselors.html#LakeElmo

They accept most insurance plans, including, one assumes, payment from those dreadful government-run ones. Ah, there's nothing like doing the Lord's work for good green money...much better than doing it for free!

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September 1, 2009 5:36 PM

Thank you Ms. Bachmann for having the courage to admit that too much government has destroyed this country.

It's time for the second revolution.

Wacko utopians from the era or Orwell and Huxley like John Holdren, Zeke Emanuel, and Cass Sunstein are not the kind of people you want on government boards deciding what doctors can do.

Health 'reform', cap and trade, water and food bills, all must be defeated if we are to keep our freedoms. Next is the control over the airwaves and internet, as suggested by nutjob commies Mark Lloyd and Van Jones.

All working for the head nutjob, Obama.

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September 2, 2009 10:10 AM in reply to NH

I'm voting for you to join in the "blood brother" ceremony. All above suggestions apply.

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AntiStrauss

September 1, 2009 5:44 PM

Hey Micky,
There's a box of single edge blades in hubby's church office. Let's you get the group together and go down there for the blood brother ceremony. Remember to slit real deep so it takes good. I'll bring in the koolaid to clean up the stragglers.
You fellow restorative therapy enthusiast.
Bill

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September 1, 2009 10:04 PM

Hey, on second thought, if she lives through the wrist-slitting, she has got Federal Insurance, which is like a golden policy. My mother has it because my father retired from the Post Office 0 years ago. It is PERFECT! She had Medicare, but no medication problems because she was in the Federal System. She never had a co-pay more than $10.

The Federal Employees and Congress, and who knows who else get tax-supplemented health care that is beyond the wildest dreams of most of us.

OK, Republicans! Man UP! Give the entire country what our federal enclave gets (including all the tax-payer subsidies), and we'll see if that works. Guess what? It won't because the feds get way more tax subsidies than anyone even imagines!

Let people pay their way, with a government-sponsored system.

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June 8, 2010 4:47 AM

The more important figure when figuring taxes is not how much tax is paid by any one individual, it is how much is left over to spend on themselves.

A person making 250,000 per year in a 25% tax bracket is paying $62,500 in taxes. They still have $187,500 to spend on living high.

A person earning $50,000 in a 0% tax bracket, while paying no income taxes, still has only $50,000 to spend on living high.

What is "fair"?

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