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And you wonder why people are confused about the health care debate.

What's particularly striking about this exchange is that, when offered the most clear and concise possible explanation for why 44-year old Anthony Weiner isn't on a government plan that's only open to people aged 65 and over, she just whoops it up as if she's caught him in some sort of damning contradiction.

Obviously, the real punchline is that many of the people criticizing the Democrats' health care plan don't have the foggiest idea how any of it works. And Bartiromo in particular reveals--however inadvertently--that she thinks elements of the proposal make perfect sense. Yes, she's wrong to assume Weiner could buy into Medicare, and she's wrong to assume that he chooses not to because the coverage is sub-par. But ironically, the idea that Weiner should be able to buy into Medicare seems totally uncontroversial to her. And that, of course, is the whole point of the public option.

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September 1, 2009 3:49 PM   

The segment actually ended with Anthony Weiner (D-NY) saying that he's "fighting for Taxpayers" and Maria Bartiromo (R-CNBC) responded "Well it's my job to fight for the investors"

hmmm... couldn't be more telling.

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September 1, 2009 8:37 PM    in reply to jet

It's her job to SHILL for millionaires.
Sticking up for rich people - what a noble cause.
Jesus must really be impressed.

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September 1, 2009 8:59 PM    in reply to Armageddon T. Thunderbird

Hm. You'd think the investors could afford to hire someone to look out for their interests who wasn't a complete fucking imbecile.

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September 1, 2009 11:50 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Well you would think ..... but they seem to be getting the job done quite well with imbeciles!

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September 2, 2009 12:28 AM    in reply to hollywood

How is it that a moron like her can be rich and famous while worthwhile intelligent people can't find a job?

Ridiculous that she's on national TV commenting on the health care issue and doesn't know you have to be 65 to qualify.

By the way, I think Obama should sign, as a temporary measure, an executive order allowing medicare to sell health insurance at cost to those without it.

If that's what Ms. Bartiromo meant to say, then I stand corrected.

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September 2, 2009 2:11 AM    in reply to Tim

"How is it that a moron like her can be rich and famous while worthwhile intelligent people can't find a job?"

She hasn't any ethics?

She's dishonest?


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September 2, 2009 10:42 AM    in reply to JNagarya

It's a question of axis. Some people perform better on the x-axis than the y-axis. Why ask intelligent questions when you can lie back.

Reportedly Maria is pretty good with both definitions of 'lie'.

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September 6, 2009 9:26 AM    in reply to Armageddon T. Thunderbird

I'm pretty certain that Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with anything going on in this country now, on either side of the political spectrum.

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September 2, 2009 12:46 AM    in reply to jet

I always knew Bartiromo was a moron, but this is a new low.

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September 2, 2009 2:12 AM    in reply to PatrickJKiger

Nothing new about it. You just noticed she's there, so assume she's a new arrival.

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September 2, 2009 9:15 AM    in reply to jet



Rock meet Maria . . . Maria meet Rock!

Great Moments in Financial History: The Money Honey on Celebrity Jeopardy

Holy dumbass Batman . . .

~OGD~


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September 1, 2009 3:52 PM   

Her overall smug attitude screams Fox to me, and throw in her lack of understanding and she's a shoe in. Maria-- dye your hair blonde and head on over.

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September 1, 2009 4:02 PM    in reply to joejustice

She was blaming the financial collapse last fall on Obama doing well in the polls... saying that the markets were selling off in fear of a Democrat winning the election.

If she was truly concerned for investors she would be pro single-payer or at least for the Public Option... due to the fact Health Insurance costs are crushing businesses in this Country.

The only investor she is fighting for is her husbands hedge fund. She a Republican hack.

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September 1, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to joejustice

CNBC has been suffering from Fox News envy for over a decade, and became increasingly politicized and silly/useless during the Bush years.

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September 1, 2009 10:33 PM    in reply to joejustice

LMAO

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September 2, 2009 12:54 PM    in reply to joejustice

That's "shoo-in." Common mistake, but I'm feeling picky today.

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September 1, 2009 3:56 PM   

Dumb as a fucking rock. It doesn't take much in the way of intelligence to talk about what stocks are up and what stocks are down. Bartiromo is a hot chick who talks about buys and sells - that's all she is. She's on the teevee because the traders imagine her going down on them while they short-sell 20,000 shares of Cisco. Kind of the way conservative men view Sarah Palin.

"Why aren't you in Medicare?:" Is she really serious? Also, I don't think that she "inadvertently" thinks elements of the proposal are good ideas and make sense. She's was just going for the gotcha and tried to use Medicare as a tool to get there. And she used Medicare only because Weiner threw it out there as an example of government health coverage in the US - she clearly doesn't know anything about the program...I mean, the fact that Medicare is only available to seniors isn't just some little detail - it's the essence of the entire freaking program. This was all about having the opportunity to say to Weiner, "Well, then why don't you give up that gold-plated, extra special, super deluxe coverage you get as a pampered, stinking rich, elitist Congressman." It's the same BS the idiots at the town halls pull..it's straight out of Tea-Bagging 101 - "If you're going to force the public plan on us, why don't you enroll in it?" Of course, what's lost on these idiots is the word OPTION. (I mean, for the love of pete, a big component of the reform plans is the exchange. Obama has been talking about it since the campaign. It's a key part of all the proposed pieces of legislation. How the fuck do you have an exchange if there is only one option and everybody has to be in it?)

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September 1, 2009 4:55 PM    in reply to ogliberal

Absolutely nailed it!

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September 1, 2009 6:41 PM    in reply to ogliberal

I think the correct term is "dumber than a bag of hammers".

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September 1, 2009 7:19 PM    in reply to Isabelino

I also like "She's about as sharp as a pound of wet leather," or "about as sharp as a sack of wet mice."

h/t Foghorn Leghorn & WB.

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September 2, 2009 2:16 AM    in reply to mgmonklewis

A used match is brighter.

Dumber than dead rocks.

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September 2, 2009 10:08 AM    in reply to JNagarya

My favorite has always been dumb as a box of hair. I have no idea what it means but it always cracks me up.

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September 1, 2009 7:37 PM    in reply to ogliberal

I agree, this "If you're going to force the public plan on us, why don't you enroll in it?" argument needs to get obliterated. And not just because the public option is falsely presented as being "forced" on us, but also because it includes a red herring fallacy: Whether or not the public option would provide health coverage as good as a Congressman's is not the issue. Whether the public option would provide better coverage for more people is the issue.

If it's supposed to be bad that the public option's heath coverage is not as good as the coverage provided to Congress, is it not worse that many people have no option for any coverage at all?

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September 2, 2009 12:34 AM    in reply to ogliberal

This is just another reason why I say Obama should just fricking sign an executive order allowing Medicare to sell health insurance at cost to individuals who are without it.

The ol' unitary executive in action, kind of thing.

Yes everyone will say it's not legal or extra-constitutional, but that's not the point. It would change the ground game significantly in Obama's favor.

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September 2, 2009 12:40 AM    in reply to ogliberal

This is just another reason why I say Obama should just fricking sign an executive order allowing Medicare to sell health insurance at cost to individuals who are without it.

The ol' unitary executive in action, kind of thing.

Yes everyone will say it's not legal or extra-constitutional, but that's not the point. It would change the ground game significantly in Obama's favor.

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September 1, 2009 4:05 PM   

I watched her shoot her mouth off about a week ago and she demonstrated then that she has no idea what the debate is about. She's fucking clueless. She sat there and yelled that there aren't 47 million uninsured people, that it was much less than that and she thought that it was just a choice for most of them.

Get it through your thick skull, Maria. Millions and millions of Americans can't afford health care. They can't afford, and in many cases can't get accepted for, health insurance. They don't have friends and relatives and connections where they can just go hit somebody up for some money. They flat-out can't get it. Just because you can't imagine what it's like to be unemployed, foreclosed upon, or deathly ill doesn't mean there aren't millions of people out there having to deal with it.

Jeez, talk about a "let them eat cake" attitude.

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September 1, 2009 4:08 PM    in reply to chimpale

Come on, well all know there aren't 47 million uninsured people. 37 million of that total are illegal brown people who should be left to die. 9 million are pot smoking college kids who spend all of the money they get from mommmy and daddy on booze and weed. The remaining 1M are truly uninsured...but they can just go to the emergency room

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September 1, 2009 4:19 PM    in reply to ogliberal

I stand corrected, sir.

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September 1, 2009 7:57 PM    in reply to ogliberal

Hello oqliberla, I thought that Conservatives didn't believe in the "survival of the fitest" [evolution]. This comment proves me wrong. Conservatives are Social Darwinists which has nothing to do with the random genetic modifications that result in some of the species being able to survive better than others due to genetic adaptation. Social Darwinism has nothing to do with genetic modification due to the short time spans involved and the intervention of culture and learning. Plus the reference to "brown people" sniffs of racism which is another reason to not apply social darwinism here.

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September 1, 2009 8:21 PM    in reply to greysells2

Wow. You took that as advocating social darwinism?

I just took it to be snark.

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September 2, 2009 1:29 AM    in reply to chimpale

I sympathize, man -- it's a hard job these days to be outrageous enough to make it obvious that you don't intend to be taken literally. No matter how outrageous we might be in jest, some Republican is going to come along and say something even more outrageous and mean it seriously.

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September 2, 2009 9:09 PM    in reply to slb

Could it be that snark is dead? The sh#t is flying so fast that anything with an odor is cause for criticism. Perhaps we'll have to start entertaining each other with emoticons, or try to kill each other with kandy-koated kindness. (blech!)

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September 1, 2009 8:04 PM    in reply to chimpale

I watched this this morning. Weiner knows his stuff and he answered her perfectly and all she could say was she wasn't buying it.

I remember this bitch when she was skinny and had short hair. Now she's fat and has long hair and is still dumb as a box of rocks

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September 2, 2009 2:19 AM    in reply to chimpale

Let them eat croutons.

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September 1, 2009 4:11 PM   

Big shocker there. They're anti-health care until the end. Needs to stop, something needs to be said. If this goes any further before they start checking democrats.org. Some act like if health care passes, the planet will end. Doubt the inferno.

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September 1, 2009 4:17 PM   

I liked Bartiromo more before she was a political hack. Unless she was all along and I just didn't notice.

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September 1, 2009 4:19 PM   

She IS so smart. Otherwise she wouldn't be on TV.

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September 1, 2009 7:54 PM    in reply to VLaszlo

As long as these anchors have earphones tucked in, they can often appear to be carrying on an intelligent conversation.

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September 1, 2009 4:20 PM   

So if I offer to give Bartiromo ten dollars, she's going to refuse because I haven't offered to give her twenty dollars, right?

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September 1, 2009 4:20 PM   

"But ironically, the idea that Weiner should be able to buy into Medicare seems totally uncontroversial to her. And that, of course, is the whole point of the public option."

Excellent point!!

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September 1, 2009 4:21 PM   

Also, I'm sure Weiner would be more than happy to have the public plan cover everything. If that's what Maria wants, then we'll certainly be willing to tax her for it.

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September 1, 2009 4:25 PM   

A whole lotta folks are anti-healthcare reform simply because the Dems are for it.

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September 1, 2009 6:03 PM    in reply to Walter Mitty

Amen, Walter Mitty.

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September 1, 2009 4:50 PM   

She doesn't even realize that Medicare IS better. She actually thought he's on a private plan because he prefers it.

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September 1, 2009 4:51 PM   

Dear Maria:

You express concern about the quality of care in a public plan and ask how anyone would know if it's any good. This betrays a lack of understanding of the the concept of competition--which perhaps is understandable, since you live in a world where executive pay is a rigged game and corporate welfare is taken for granted.

Simply put, if the public plan is inferior in quality, consumers won't choose it. They'll go with a private insurer instead -- unless the public plan is a lot cheaper and some choose to make that tradeoff.

But the important thing is, people will be able to make that choice for themselves. What's alarming about that?

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September 1, 2009 4:53 PM   

"But ironically, the idea that Weiner should be able to buy into Medicare seems totally uncontroversial to her. And that, of course, is the whole point of the public option."

Ideally, the public option would mean people under 65 buying into Medicare.

But the Blue Dogs want the public option to separately negotiate how much it pays doctors. That would mean more cost to the taxpayers, more cost for patients, and more money for doctors.

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September 1, 2009 4:55 PM   

Is there anybody who does financial news, who is not a flaming idiot?

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September 1, 2009 5:00 PM   

If I said something that stupid at my job, I'd probably be fired.

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September 1, 2009 5:15 PM   

She's wrong about Erbitux.

Patients can get it in the UK.

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http://www.pharmatimes.com/UKNews/article.aspx?id=16489


NICE issues final green light for Erbitux in colorectal cancer
27 August 2009

The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence has issued final guidance recommending the use of Merck KGaA’s cancer drug Erbitux on the National Health Service for patients with colorectal cancer.

Specifically, the cost regulator has given the green light for the use of the drug in combination with a chemotherapy regimen known as FOLFOX – 5-fluorouracil, folinic acid and oxaliplatin - as a first-line weapon against the disease under the following conditions: the primary tumour has been resected or can be operated on; disease spread is confined to the liver and is inoperable; and the patient is well enough to undergo surgery to remove the primary tumour or the diseased part of the liver if this is possible following treatment.

In addition, the Institute has given the all clear for the drug’s use in combination with 5-FU, folinic acid and irinotecan (known as FOLFIRI) as a first-line defence when the above criteria are met, and the patient is unable to take oxaliplatin. NICE has also stipulated that patients in either subset should not be treated with the drug for more than 16 weeks.

Approval of the drug for use on the NHS was based upon a cost analysis that concluded it would be a cost-effective use of resources, taking into account clinical evidence showing its ability to significantly shrink tumours as well as a risk-sharing scheme proposed by Merck, under which it offers a 16% rebate to the health service on the cost of treatment per patient.
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September 1, 2009 6:01 PM   

Is Bartiromo really that uninformed so as to ask this question?

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September 1, 2009 6:11 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

Yes. You seem surprised that that would be the case.

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September 1, 2009 6:18 PM   

And all private insurance plans in this country sprint to your doorstep to offer you that $38,000 prescription drug when you have cancer, right, Maria?

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September 1, 2009 6:51 PM    in reply to lyleleander

I was thinking the same thing. All it takes is two words...DENIED: EXPERIMENTAL.

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September 1, 2009 7:22 PM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

Or this, "Because you did not disclose your severe case of adolescent acne that began in 1959, we consider your application for our insurance to be invalid). We consider this non-disclosure to be a fraudulent attempt to hide your relavent medical history. True, you have paid premiums for 20+ years, and your current problem of pancreatic cancer has nothing to do with acne, but we have our standards, and must deny you any further coverage. We are also unable to refund any of your thousands of dollars of premiums paid to us, because in 1992 we paid a claim for a chest X-Ray, and also antibiotics for a bout of bronchitis. Your insurance is hereby cancelled -- oh, but you still owe us last month's premium. We have turned this collection issue over to our agency. You can expect the harassment to begin in 5 minutes."

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September 1, 2009 8:19 PM    in reply to CVille Dem

Bingo!!!

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September 1, 2009 8:28 PM    in reply to CVille Dem

Beauty. That's a keeper. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it. With attribution of course.

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September 1, 2009 9:53 PM    in reply to chimpale

Take it! attribution unnecessary! We are all in the same boat here, and anything I can do to help the cause I happily throw OUT THERE! for anyone!

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September 1, 2009 10:13 PM    in reply to CVille Dem

Exactly. Great post.

Or Aetna, who has a policy to DENY EVERY CLAIM the first time and force their customers to appeal. Just so they can skim that extra bit of sweet sweet profit off hard working Americans. It's a sham business the way it's run.

It makes absolute sense to regulate these immoral business practices (it's sad that we even are forced to) and it baffles me that people can think otherwise. And to defend the profits of these corporations as proof of free market is ridiculous. Don't these people realize that the only reason they're making these record profits is by totally screwing us all? We are their customers; they consider us profit margins, numbers, $$$.

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September 2, 2009 1:34 AM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

Yep, I have Aetna. I was denied a claim once, and denied my first appeal. Fortunately, California has a law that if you're denied a second appeal then the insurance company must pay $3000 for an independent third party to decide on the appeal. The second appeal I submitted with backup documentation from doctors and requesting the independent body to review my case and was granted the appeal instantly for the medication I was requesting. Like within days of receiving my request of a 2nd appeal.

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September 2, 2009 3:32 PM    in reply to arias

Problem is that United Health Care ownes the largest arbitrator groups for health care. You are very lucky that they ruled in your favor.

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September 1, 2009 6:23 PM   

Joey Ramone was right about a lot of things, but he was (sadly) wrong about Maria Bartiromo.

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September 1, 2009 6:34 PM   

That was truly frightening. How can someone so prominent on NBC be that woefully uninformed on the basics of medicare -- not the complicated stuff, like Part D, the very basics?

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September 1, 2009 6:42 PM   

And at this point, we should bombard her email with the point of Medicare isn't available until 65. And yet, I still don't think she would get it.

But what the hell? I got 2mins. to waste.

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September 1, 2009 7:03 PM   

Medicare for all. Medicare for all. Medicare for all.

Dump the 1,000+ page draft versions of health care reform and simply state that all natural born and naturalized American citizens are eligible to buy into the existing and popular Medicare program.

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September 2, 2009 12:59 AM    in reply to Terry Carroll

Hey douchebag, Medicare is going to be bankrupt soon. If you add the entire population onto it, how do you think it will be paid for? Looks like a bunch of Commie fucking idiots posting here, so I shouldn't be surprised. Oh, maybe you can tax the hell out of the "rich" to pay for all of this. What will happen when the rich hide their money, or they no longer exist? The only rich that will be left will be the ruling elite. They will rule over the lower class of poor people, and no middle class will exist. This is a free market capitalist society. Stop being a bunch of fucking pussies and work for a living, make yourself successful and take care of your own needs. Stop making those who are successful pay for your lack of it. If you want the government to take care of you, get citizenship in some socialist country.

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September 2, 2009 2:28 AM    in reply to WayneKerr

Thankfully, you uninformed morons are a statistically insignificant minority. But that's why everything you don't like -- because you haven't the first clue what it actualy is -- is labeled by the dirty word "communist".

And then you confuse that with socialism.

We are a society, only one element of which is economics.

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September 2, 2009 10:21 AM    in reply to WayneKerr

Wow, straight out of the right wing talking point handbook. Do you have an original thought to share, or are you just here to spew your nastiness? It continues to amaze me that people like you will fight against your own interests just to support wealthy elitists. In case you haven't been paying attention, even those who do have jobs can't afford the ever growing health care costs. And, the insurance companies are gladly screwing people over. Are you saying that you support what health insurance companies do to people? I've got mine, so fuck you, is that it? I'd lay good money that you even call yourself a Christian without a hint of irony in your voice.

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September 2, 2009 3:29 PM    in reply to WayneKerr

Remember that boring "lock box" debate from the 2000 election? Well that was to ensure that the decades of money that was in Social Security and Medicare couldn't be touched. Well since Bush ended up in the White House, the GOP starting paying for their giant expansion of government with IOUs and money from Social Security and Medicare. That way they can turn around and say "look these goverment programs are a disaster and we should kill them"!

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that the GOP doesn't do a bad job of running the Federal Government on purpose so that they can later say the government can't do anything right.

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September 1, 2009 7:05 PM   

I saw it. Mind-bottling.

Medicare for ALL.

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September 1, 2009 7:11 PM   

What is a Bartiromo?

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September 1, 2009 7:21 PM   

Well if you love it so much, why don't you marry it!

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September 1, 2009 11:37 PM    in reply to Phaedrus

Sorry, it appears that she's already married, she got her money the old fashioned-way, she's a golddigger. From Wikipedia:

Bartiromo grew up in the Bay Ridge section of southern Brooklyn. As a teenager, she checked coats at her parents' Italian restaurant, at which her father was the chef.

Bartiromo graduated from New York University with a BA degree in journalism and a minor in economics.

On 13 June 1999, Bartiromo married Jonathan Steinberg, son of investor Saul Steinberg. Jonathan ("Jono") is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of WisdomTree Investments, a financial investment services company in Manhattan, most noted for their issuance of ETFs, or exchange-traded funds.[1]

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September 1, 2009 7:22 PM   

Gawd she's sofa king stupid.

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September 1, 2009 7:36 PM   

Bartiromo's cluelessness is just more evidence that the public in general is totally lost; Bartiromo really isn't stupid & she's at least peripherally in the news biz; if she hasn't absorbed anything about the proposed reforms, is it any wonder that the general public is mystified & myth-spouting?

The Constant Weader at www.RealityChex.com

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September 1, 2009 11:37 PM    in reply to Marie Burns

"Bartiromo really isn't stupid & she's at least peripherally in the news biz; if she hasn't absorbed anything about the proposed reforms, is it any wonder that the general public is mystified & myth-spouting?"

Um, the point of the post is that "financial analyst" Maria Bartiromo doesn't know that Medicare eligibility begins at age 65, not that she doesn't understand all of the nuances and ramifications of the proposed health care bills.

But thanks for the concern, troll.

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September 1, 2009 8:05 PM   

Who at cnbc can we e-mail/write to express our dismay at the stupid that is Ms. Bartiromo has unleashed? Maybe they should verify her qualifications. Evidently, they missed that step the first time.

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September 1, 2009 8:09 PM   

This is just too perfect. From her Wikipedia page:

In March, 2006, Bartiromo appeared as a contestant[1] on celebrity Jeopardy. Matched against CNN news anchor Anderson Cooper and Kweisi Mfume, President of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. After two rounds Bartiromo finished with $0, having only attempted to answer two questions in the Double Jeopardy round, answering only one correctly. Because her balance of $0 following the Double Jeopardy round would have made her ineligible for the Final Jeopardy round, Maria was 'gifted' $1,000 in order to keep playing. Maria answered the Final Jeopardy question incorrectly, and finished the game with $300 of the $1,000 she had been 'gifted'.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Bartiromo

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September 1, 2009 10:00 PM    in reply to micahdw

Proof that she also gives poor investment advice!

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September 1, 2009 8:23 PM   

Maria Bartiromo is not a journalist

She is a bought and paid for stooge for Wall Street
Her father in law is Saul Steinberg
Ring a bell?

He started Reliance Capital one of the original power brokers of the Wall Street boom and a multi billionaire.

She was a news reader on a financial channel and she was the first attractive youngish woman to do so so she became the "money honey" etc etc

I saw her on Carlos Watson and she was absurd - in addition to Anthony Weiner making a fool out of her factually - she said "look at what Obama has created" - she must be referring to the 3 trillion dollar debt he walked into etc - than man has been in office seven months --

Maria Bartiromo has no credibility (and if one were to predict her future - her father in law dumped his wife for a woman 30 years younger - I suggest Maria keep her eyes open - the husband is cut from the same cloth)

She is ALL ABOUT MONEY -- honey!

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September 1, 2009 8:31 PM   

HAHAHA...what a fool Bartiromo is. The more I hear from her the more I am sure she is on CNBC not for her 'journalistic qualifications' but for her looks. She proves it's not what you know it's who you...well you know the rest.

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September 1, 2009 8:46 PM   

Please note: Jenna Bush (kicked out of Argentina) just got an up front job as a cable TV journalist, based on her incredible talent. To quote the Eagles in Frail Grasp on the Big Picture:
"Journalism's dead and gone".

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September 1, 2009 8:54 PM   

Joey Ramone is spinning in his grave. Johnny Ramone is hoping Maria's into necrophilia.

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September 1, 2009 9:42 PM   

CNBC??? Heh, did she replace Jim Cramer?

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September 1, 2009 10:07 PM   

where is she from, brooklyn? She didn't buy his lame excuse that he wasn't 65. She doesn't know anyone on Medicare that is happy with it? Who would ever take anything she says credible unless it is a free slice from Tony.

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September 1, 2009 10:21 PM   

It's like all the talking heads are in a race to see who is the stupidest.

Hard to bet against Maria at this point...

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September 1, 2009 10:32 PM   

She was tripped up by just regurgitating hypocritical a.k.a. republican talking points, uhmmmm.

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September 1, 2009 10:43 PM   

It just goes to show that you can send a Republican to college, but you can't educated them.

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September 1, 2009 10:53 PM   

I believe Ms. Bartiromo just got pounded by Weiner. Hard.


thank you, thank you. i'm here all week

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September 2, 2009 1:42 AM   

.../head-desk

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September 2, 2009 8:56 AM   

When did Bartiromo become a right wing hack?

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September 2, 2009 8:56 AM   

It seems as if the majority here think that Bartiromo is uninformed about Medicare. That seems to be patently true, but she will answer all the critics by saying "I haven't read the bill".

It does seem logical that if a commentator is going to ask a politician questions, they would be smart enough to ACTUALLY know what they are talking about...but she seems to follow the GOP tactic of ignorance or smear when talking about HCR. This video should be saved for posterity, filed under Bartiromo / STUPID/ most embarrassing moment.

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September 2, 2009 9:56 AM   

Erbitux may be the most popular cancer drug on the market, but is it the most effective? From today's NYT:

Take Erbitux, developed by ImClone Systems, which costs $10,000 a month. A study in Canada showed that as a last-ditch treatment for colorectal cancer, Erbitux lengthened lives by an average of about one and a half months compared with not treating the cancer at all. Using the price of the drug in the United States and the average length of treatment, the extra cost per patient was about $50,000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/health/research/02cancerdrug.html

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September 2, 2009 9:58 AM   

She's the perfect partner for Jim Cramer!

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September 2, 2009 10:17 AM   

Wow, I mean this is basic facts 101. I'd say even the crazies at the town halls know that only seniors qualify for medicare(even if they don't realize it's a government program).

Yep, just another cable tv, MSM Republican shill. Oh, what a surprise, the supposed "expert" didn't even major in economics or finance, just like her little protege, Erin Burnett(another Republican shill and hack). They're both great at reciting information from cue cards, but when they actually have to discuss an issue and think for themselves, the complete ignorance is on full display.
And not to get too superficial, but why are these women considered so attractive? I can see more beautiful women walking down my nearest street--and I'll bet they know more about Medicare(not a tough threshold).

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September 2, 2009 10:35 AM   

This is just really sad. I have a friend with an MBA who is absolutely brilliant who has been looking for work for the past year...and this woman is getting paid (how much?) to discuss health care on CNBC and she doesn't even understand you must be 65+ to enroll in Medicare? This is one of the most pathetic displays of ignorance I have seen on television, even including Fox News.

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September 2, 2009 10:45 AM   

Baritiromo and Miss Palin share the same attitude toward reading: Just say no.

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September 2, 2009 10:46 AM   

Seems pretty reasonable to me dude! Good question!

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September 2, 2009 12:22 PM   

So sometimes they complain that the public option will be so awesome it will drive insurance companies out of business, here Bartiromo wonders if the public plan will be subpar.

Weiner was good to school her about how happy people are with Medicare, but he should have added. "look Maria, even if I were to concede that it might be subpar, which I DONT, than people simply wouldn't move to the public option and would instead buy private insurance on the exchange with the help of the subsidies they recieve. I don't hear alot of people on the anti-reform side telling us they fear that type of outcome because they know that most likely any public option will be very competative against a private plan. If the public plan will be so subpar they have nothing to worry or their insurance industry friends because it wont be able to compete. Its very telling though that most anti-reform people argue instead that THEY wont be able to compete with the public plan. Why is that huh?"

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September 2, 2009 1:37 PM   

Hey Maria-I used to work at CNBC-sometimes even with you!

Unfortunately the company wouldn't put me on staff even after I worked there for 2 years as a "permalancer". Do you know what that means? NO HEALTHCARE!

The ensuing years have not made you any smarter.

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September 2, 2009 1:50 PM   

How about some actual FACTS:

Stop holding Medicare up as a model! True it's better than nothing, but there are severe problems. Too many regulations on specfic forms of care and too low payments. And it's getting worse.
I'm ON Medicare A & B & D. When you call a doctor where I live in Colorado the first thing you ask is "Do you accept Medicare?". For many specialties the answer is NO. And currently even my own primary care physician is not accepting any new Medicare patients. I DO get the basic care I need and am certainly better off than the uninsured or maybe even those in certain "plans" but there are limitations, even in part D.

Want specifics? I need a oral surgeon...the nearest who accepts Medicare is 50 miles away, and there are only 3 of them. I need Diabetic shoes and there is a Medicare programs that supposedly gives you free ones yearly. I'm on my 3rd supplier in 3 years because this program has so many regulations for suppliers that they drop it. In part D my prescribed drugs are being constantly dropped by the intermediate payers and I have to get substitutes...which sometimes are "generic versus namebrand", but other times are different formulations.
The only people Medicare works well for are those that have the best private secondary insurance i.e. the rich or government employees. I'm on the side of Universal Health Care myself, but Medicare is not the model...

John B.

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September 2, 2009 1:54 PM   

We are discussing the wrong issue. We shouldn't be concerned about a public 'option' we should be concerned about the validity and legality of mandating the purchase of health care coverage. Why does everyone think that health care is a right? It's not! It's a privilege. It is something that you have to earn, pay for, etc. Is it possible to make it more affordable? Absolutely. Should the taxpayers who already have adequate health care have to pay for those who do not? Absolutely not. If I'm not mistaken that is what makes this country so great, we can choose our own path and make our own decisions. I understand that there are individual cases of severe health issues, but when making policies, anecdotal evidence should not be taken into account.

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September 2, 2009 2:27 PM    in reply to Mercy

Sure Mercy...and the people whose homes are burning in California right now or those who lost everything in Katrina are responsible for their own fate. Why are firefighters from MY state out there?
Make no mistake...Healthcare IS a national disaster in it current form.

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September 2, 2009 7:48 PM   

I totally believe in and support a single payer universal health-care system.

However I think the administration could do a better job of informing the public and lawmakers of what good health care really does for a nation.

Hans Gosling (see link to video below) demonstrates that when a nation improves its health, its wealth actually increases. Not the other way around. Countries get healthier first, then they make money. Therefore Republicans who are arguing against healthcare reform are also arguing against a more viable capitalist economy. Supposedly the thing for which they most stand.

Address of Gosling video: http://www.gapminder.org/videos/200-years-that-changed-the-world

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