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House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) and Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)

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In the run-up to today's disapproval resolution against Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC), it's become clear that House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) has taken the lead in pushing for the resolution, even over Speaker Pelosi's initial inclination to see that matter as closed. But it's also clear that Clyburn's push for a formal apology from Wilson is rooted in a long and troubled relationship between the most senior African-American politician in South Carolina and a four-term congressman who until recently was best known as a die-hard proponent of keeping the Confederate flag flying over the State Capitol in Columbia.

Indeed, the friction has popped up quite recently. Clyburn recently told the Washington Post that he was particularly incensed when Wilson held a town hall at a high school in Columbia -- which Clyburn says is in his district, and is the place where his children went to school. "He came into my district, the high school where my kids went, where I was an officer in the [Parent Teacher Association], and that was on purpose," Clyburn said. "That was as unethical as one can be, and he didn't say one word to me about it."

(Ed.Note: A search of Google Earth and the House site's district finder shows that the high school -- identified in the local media as having been W.J. Keenan High School -- appears to actually be in Wilson's district, not Clyburn's. At least that's what the nine-digit ZIP code seems to suggest. But it is in fact just a few blocks from Clyburn's house. Clyburn lives right near the district border, and we can probably take him at his word that his kids went there, that he served on the PTA, and that he didn't take kindly to a right-wing GOP House member holding a town hall at that particular venue.)

The day after Wilson made a written apology to the White House, Clyburn said it wasn't good enough, pushing for the apology from the House floor that Wilson has refused to give. "That's a cowardly way to do it," Clyburn said. "He ought to man up and go down to the well of the House and say, I acted with a lack of decorum the last evening, and I apologize to the President of the United States, and I apologize to my colleagues in both bodies, and I apologize to the people of South Carolina for having done so."

As the Politico reported, Clyburn also personally asked Wilson on the House floor for an apology -- asking three times in the course of their confrontation. Wilson rebuffed Clyburn, who has nine years of seniority over him, and since then Clyburn has been leading the fight against Wilson.

The Washington Post also points out that while Clyburn has not directly called Wilson's outburst racist, he did tell reporters immediately after the speech that Obama was the only president to have been treated in this manner -- and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus have been more direct in alleging a racial element.

Clyburn also told Maureen Dowd: "A lot of these outbursts have to do with delegitimizing him as a president."

Clyburn also said that cracking down on Wilson is a matter surviving in the cut-throat politics of South Carolina. "In South Carolina politics, I learned that the olive branch works very seldom," said Clyburn. "You have to come at these things from a position of strength. My father used to say, 'Son, always remember that silence gives consent.'"

Calls and e-mails to Clyburn's office were not returned.

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September 15, 2009 12:42 PM   

Good for you, Clyburn. Wilson needs to reprimanded for the history books. Make this a stain on his permanent record that the House has denounced his behavior.

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September 15, 2009 12:50 PM   

To anyone upset about the Joe Wilson ads (or any other ad for that matter)... just click on the ad and you'll make Joe Wilson pay TPM each time you click on the ads.

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September 15, 2009 12:56 PM   

I don't blame Clyburn. Wilson needs to apologize to everybody, especially Obama. Telling Rahm he is sorry is not the same as apologizing to Obama. Keep the heat on

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September 15, 2009 2:24 PM    in reply to neesy08

He apologized only after his house leadership (minority) told him to. And he admitted it in his interview with the press the next day when they caught him in the corridor. That just grates on me. Lying about having been an immigration attorney didn't help either.

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September 15, 2009 12:58 PM   

If the House does not censure this buffoon, what's to stop the next knuckle dragger from doing the same thing?

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September 15, 2009 12:58 PM   

Yes I fully agree with Rep. Clyburn's father...silence does give consent.

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September 15, 2009 1:05 PM   

Keep up the pressure. Remember when Moveon ran an ad criticizing Gen. Petraes? Right Wingers caused a Senate vote on that, and last I checked, Moveon wasn't an elected official.

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September 15, 2009 1:06 PM   

Mr. Clyburn, I would vote for you without fail if I were in your state and district. You sir, are a gentleman and a man of honor. I salute you and your stand.

Just this old Chief's 2 cents

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September 15, 2009 1:23 PM   

Give him hell Jimmy!

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September 15, 2009 1:26 PM   

i hope they expose the racist for who he really is. racism is the one thing in the world i really hate - as do most ppl. the problem i see is: if ppl continually accept racism as a part of their country/heritage - whatever - then other ppl will start to accept it too. im almost at the point where racism doesnt even faze me anymore...and thats sad.

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September 15, 2009 1:32 PM    in reply to david hilton

I hate more than anything else LYING. It is the LYING that such as Wilson aren't racist that perpetuates the racism.

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September 15, 2009 1:27 PM   

i hope they expose the racist for who he really is. racism is the one thing in the world i really hate - as do most ppl. the problem i see is: if ppl continually accept racism as a part of their country/heritage - whatever - then other ppl will start to accept it too. im almost at the point where racism doesnt even faze me anymore...and thats sad.

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September 15, 2009 1:55 PM   

It says a lot about the South that Wilson has become a hero to some people. Like when Oliver North blatantly lied to Congress.

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September 15, 2009 1:58 PM    in reply to traitorjoe

You're mistaken if you think all of Wilson's allies and supporters are southerners.

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September 15, 2009 2:34 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Good point, FreeRider. Maybe wishful thinking on my part.

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September 15, 2009 2:00 PM   

Watch, the teabag Beck wing will have death threats out against Clyburn in 24 hours...stand firm

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September 15, 2009 2:06 PM    in reply to NuttyProf

Clyburn is not a turn the other cheek type of politician. If they try and come after him, you may have the black caucus showing up in berets, exercising their right to bear arms.

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September 15, 2009 2:10 PM   

For those Confederate flags Addison Graves Wilson still wants to fly; is he taking suggestions for where he can stick them? Gee, why do I find the motivation for his shouted out falsehood suspect? I guess I'm just another whacky librul because I'm sure this guy could use some remedial efforts.

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September 15, 2009 2:38 PM   

Regardless of how he apologized, I'm tired of pols doing whatever they feel like doing and getting away with it when they say they're sorry. Sorry has been all used up, no more available.

The written rebuke is necessary, not only to preserve the dignity of the House but also because the dems have done enough whimpering at the feet of repus. I am tired of good manners on the part of dems while they get garbage thrown in their faces non-stop.

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September 15, 2009 3:07 PM   

"In S. Carolina, Olive branch works very seldom" is some quote.

I don't know what Pelosi was even thinking about; this has to be done. Next time he speaks in Congress as I've said, he'll have 4 or more of them demanding that the "boy" show his birth certificate. It's a shame really that Clyburn even has to take the lead in this.

Sure this will inflame things more. But they intend to inflame things much more anyway so it's actually at not cost.

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September 15, 2009 3:36 PM   

Joe Wilson acted like a spoiled brat. He apologized to President Obama, who accepted said mea culpa. That should have been it. President Obama came across as the bigger man, which he is. And the Democratic fundraising machine, which has been sleeping, kicked into action. If more was needed to assuage the egos of House Democrats, a quick resolution condemning Wilson's action would have been appropriate.

But that was not good enough for some. Those 2 moronic words have been taken way out of proportion.

Results :

(a) Everyone is talking about 2 idiotic words.
(b) Nobody is talking about Obama's address to the Nation. Can anyone remember what was said?
(c) Healthcare has been pushed aside.
(d) Pelosi is withdrawing her line in the sand re Public Option.
(e) Some Democrats are now equating those 2 words with 'racism' and 'white hoods.' Clearly this was an act of stupidity. By raising it to anything other than that, by stretching the truth, is playing directly into the hands of Republicans. The overreaching has led, in my opinion, to the Republican fundraising machine having been kicked into action. Until this time, the latter wasn't just sleeping, it had been in a coma, until the 'R' word was used.
(f) If the above post re Clyburn is correct. then it is most unfortunate. Rep. Clyburn is someone I have always respected. But there seems to be some personal history between him and Wilson, and his actions seem more like payback.

For all of you who are praising the House Democrats for wanting to see Wilson stretched out on a rack for those two stupid words, let me ask you a question.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et. al. lied to this nation, and before Congress on many an occasion. Their actions brought shame on this Nation. They authorized war, torture, rendition, occupation of a sovereign nation, deaths of thousands of US military men and women, and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi nationals etc. They are responsible of War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity. Where is the Congress' outrage against these lies?, against these vile and despicable acts? When will Congress begin Impeachment Hearings for these loathsome acts?

Two stupid words result in immediate action in Congress. Lies, war, torture, rendition, and the deaths of over a million Iraqis, and a deathing silence is heard.

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September 15, 2009 4:01 PM   

Double standards. Go back to Rep. Pete Stark in 2007

http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2009/09/14/2007-on-the-house-floor-rep-pete-stark-d-cal-called-president-george-w-bush-a-liar-video/

The Republicans are worried that we can’t pay for insuring an additional 10 million children. They sure don’t care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in Iraq. Where you going to get that money. You gonna tell us lies like you’re telling us today? Is that how you’re going to fund the war. You don’t have enough money to fund the war or children. But you’re going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President’s amusement.

At the 1:55 mark:

But the President Bush’s statements about children’s health shouldn’t be taken any more seriously than his lies about the war in Iraq. The truth is that Bush just likes to blow things up in Iraq, in the United States, and in Congress.

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I’d be remiss if I did not mention that after a Republican resolution to censure Stark failed, he did apologize. Though keep in mind… not until after the resolution failed.

Initially Stark refused to apologize but As DownWithTyranny reported in October 2007 he did so under Democrat threat of censure passing.

A Firedoglake reader called Stark’s office to complain about the apology. “The person answering the phone told me that Stark had no choice; Stark was told before the vote was taken that should he not apologize, the vote to censure would pass. According to his office, that is the only reason he apologized.”

WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. Fortney “Pete” Stark of California apologized Tuesday for comments he made last week suggesting President Bush was sending troops to Iraq to get their “heads blown off for his amusement.”

The apology came after the House voted 196-173 with eight members voting present to table a resolution introduced by House Minority Leader John Boehner censuring Stark.

Click here to see how your representative voted.

Though the motion amounts to a failed vote, Stark addressed fellow lawmakers afterward to apologize.

Regardless of their sweeping Stark’s actions under the rug (only 5 Democrats voted to censure Stark), House Democrats playing by their own set of rules plan to sanction Joe Wilson this week.

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September 15, 2009 5:00 PM   

Clyburn should not have had to make a special personal effort on this -- and we should be careful not to fall into the pervasive contemporary tendency to personalize, or racialize, all important public issues. Rebuking Wilson for his outburst is, quite simply, a matter of the House standing by its own institutional rules. It is a collective issue, an institutional preservation matter. I think the House should have acted almost immediately, and there is no sense in which a phone call to Obama's Chief of Staff meets the institutional need here.

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September 16, 2009 12:25 PM   

Let us also recall that Rep. Wilson got his start in politics as an aide to Sen. Strom Thurmond, the late segregationist.

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