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Former Bush administration official Ellen Sauerbrey, who served as Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees and Migration, is warning that President Obama's policies point in a very dangerous direction: economic fascism.

The County Times of St. Mary's County, Maryland, reported on an appearance that Sauerbrey -- a former two-time GOP nominee for governor -- put in at a local Republican dinner this past Saturday. The paper reports that Sauerbrey said that President Obama was surrounded by a cult-like following, edging towards that of Juan Peron or Adolf Hitler. She told the paper that she was not making a comparison between Obama and Hitler, but instead saying that the conditions in this country were such that a dictator could usurp the rights of citizens:

She said that the Obama administration advanced "fascist, socialist ideals."

"I'm really afraid for the future of our country," Sauerbrey told attendees at the annual Lincoln/Reagan Dinner of Sept. 12 in Callaway. "Our Constitution is indeed being dismantled."

In an interview with TPM, Sauerbrey disputed some of the article -- but made clear the dangers of economic fascism and a breakdown in economic freedom and the rule of law.

"My point was very clearly not trying to compare our president to Eva Peron or Juan Peron or Adolf Hitler," Sauerbrey told me. "My point was that when certain policies are implemented by any administration -- and I also said, I think later to the reporter in chatting with him afterwards, that I was equally unhappy with the out of control spending in the Bush administration -- when you start down this road of these kinds of policies, you are on the road to destroying what has made this a great country."

Sauerbrey said she probably did refer to a cult-like following, "because this is typical of any time you get a strong leader." But her discussion of Juan Peron's Argentina was an example of what happens when big government causes hyperinflation of a currency -- which she sees as a real danger here.

"I never mentioned Hitler's name other than when the reporter came up to me afterwards," she said. "And I said, look, I am not making a direct comparison Obama and Hitler. I'm making a comparison between policies in countries, and that history has a way of repeating itself."

So does she believe that Obama and his administration are fascists, as cited above? "I don't believe -- no, I'm not saying that they are fascists," she said. "I'm saying, if you said ideals -- yes I do believe, when you look at the definition of fascism. Fascism is not government ownership of business, it is government control of business."

As evidence, she pointed to the takeovers of the auto industry, the awarding of a majority share in Chrysler to the autoworkers and forcing the company's creditors to settle for less than they were due, and the efforts to control the health care industry. "I think that the definition of what the Obama administration is doing, from an economic definition standpoint, is much more closely described as fascism than socialism, because the government is not owning, it is directing and controlling the elements of the economy. would you disagree with it?"

I asked her if she agrees with folks like Alan Keyes, who has openly called Obama a communist and other such epithets. "No, no. I would say what I've said to you. I think that we have a government that is following policies that are socialistic and fascist," she said. "i would not personalize my comments to describe the president. I hope to Heaven he's not. But I think that he's following policies that are taking us rapidly in the wrong direction."

(Special thanks to Prof. Todd Eberly of St. Mary's College, and his PoliProf blog, who brought this to our attention.)

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September 17, 2009 7:18 PM   

Kleefeld's dance card is getting pretty full of kooks

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September 17, 2009 9:17 PM    in reply to johnmccsf

actually this is projection and another sign of any kook authoritarian in the Bush government

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September 18, 2009 8:02 AM    in reply to RWN

Or it is another in the growing line of "official responses" from the Right to Nancy Pelosi, Jimmy Carter, Rachel Maddow and a few other voices begging that, pretty-please, can you tone down the rhetoric calling out the armed militias and skinheads to take action.

The "wingnut" response is "He's Hitler!" Or, to read it accurately and plainly, screw all y'all, we want us some blood on the floor.

After all, if Obama's an illegal alien non-president that's putting the same plans in place that would be made by Hitler, what's a good ol' skinhead to do?

I agree that there is and has been too much fact-free coverage of the anti-democratic Right (that was a small "d"). But, in cases like this story, I believe the headline and story slant is all wrong, not that it shouldn't be covered.

I believe the headline should read something more like Another High Official From the Right Joins Call For Armed Insurrection Against the Elected Government. The story details would then go on to show how one more former government official has added her voice to currently elected officials like John Boehner, who responded to the question of whether the heated rhetoric shouldn't be toned down by saying that there's a "minor revolution brewing" among the American public against the ongoing threat to the republic by the fascist, socialist threat represented by Obama and the Democrats.

Face it folks: That's what is the real story here. The Right is getting cocked, locked and ready to rock. They are brazenly telling us this very thing. It is up to us to really listen to this real threat.

I wish I were making it up. But one plus one still comes out to two, and that's the simple arithmetic I'm seeing at play here.

These "nutbags" know the numbers are against them keeping their power, their control over every little thing in our lives, and they are plainly telling us they will not relinquish that control without a fight — and they're willing to use the fears and hate of those who are already armed and ready for civil war to do it.

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September 19, 2009 11:58 AM    in reply to TheRealFish

I agree. And it's been building for at least the last twenty years. The OK City bombing was part of that escalation, as was the all-out rhetorical (and more) war against the democratically-elected Democratic president Clinton.

Thet are without question escalating, but now it includes the usual unfounded racism -- the white supremacists were already on board -- but with an actual reality beyond their projections: an African-American president.

Yes, they are thoroughly outnumbered -- howevermuch backed and supported by America-hating corporate monies -- even though emboldened by Scalia's "Bush v. Gore" and "Heller" attacks on the Constitution, and their delusion that only they have guns.

It would be unfortunate if an African-American president were forced to suppress insurrection -- especailly as based upon racism. But that's how history unfolds. In any event, it would be a Democrat faced with the issue, not a Republican, because the Republican party has long been the political arm of the corporafacist minority.

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September 17, 2009 7:29 PM   

enough already! I can't take hearing about every last republican fart and burp. good grief, TPM, I'm begging you for mercy

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September 17, 2009 7:40 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

LOL! I agree. After a while, all of the nutbags become a blur.

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September 17, 2009 8:00 PM    in reply to FreeRider

In the case of Sauerbrey, I disagree. Here's a senior Bush official working in a position where we actually may have to square off with real fascists around the world, and here she goes letting these words out of her mouth. This is far more disturbing than some nutter. She was actually one of our faces to the world with real responsibilities.

It just serves as a reminder than when everyone is spouting off about how Obama isn't doing enough, we've got to take stock about the different world we're living in now that he's in office.

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September 17, 2009 8:03 PM    in reply to fbacon2

key words for the relevancy meter: "She was"

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September 17, 2009 8:15 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

But she was likely just as crazy in that job when Bush hired her. Just like how Monica Goodling was crazy and incompetent when she WAS at the DOJ. My point was that this wasn't just some state party chair or congress person. And if another Republican president gets elected, these are the people they will bring in again.

This is our Republican foreign policy establishment for God's sake--the same folks who get unlimited TV airtime to talk about interrogations and missile defense. If Condi Rice ever dares show herself publicly, I wouldn't mind getting her take on this person.

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September 17, 2009 8:39 PM    in reply to fbacon2

if democrats had any moral courage to stand up to repugs who are racist or who fearmonger or warmonger, keeping record of every fart and burp might matter, but I'm just not convinced this type of constant coverage effects anything in any tangible way now or in the future. additionally, I object to the weight that TPM gives this coverage. they are not just keeping record on their site, but TPM loves to put these stories in their top spot on the front page. that's yellow journalism in my opinion, trying to gin up emotional reactions from readers over and over and over with stories that don't really amount to a hill of beans in the real world.

30% of this country is simply fucking crazy. they have fox news and talk radio to spew crap 24/7. do they need to be given a bigger mic than progressives here at TPM too? if I wanted to be bombarded with offensive and hateful right-wing claptrap, I'd listen to glen beck or read free republic every day

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September 18, 2009 5:55 AM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

I agree, especially with regard to the tendency to hilight every little spurt of vomit which comes out of these deranged mouths. People like Sauerbrey should be relegated to the proverbial dustbin of history, that is, ignored. We might as well quote the local redneck construction worker, for all the relevance this shit has.
I see the real problem with the democrats, who should show us some courage and ram a real health care reform bill through the house and senate no matter how loud these assholes scream. And when they're done with that, do the same with global warming, education, ....

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September 19, 2009 12:04 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

Tim McVeigh is doubtless STILL under the radar of willfully-blind assholes such as you.

You didn't learn the first time around, and you continue to refuse to learn with the approach of the second time.

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September 17, 2009 11:30 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

she was never much. Loser from day one, and now even worse -- a pathetic nostalgic loser.

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September 19, 2009 12:12 PM    in reply to chuck DC

And yet she has the ear of the nut-fringe, and her having been at a relatively high gov't position gives her a credibility that reason deniese her. But she isn't speaking to the reasonable; she is speaking to the ever-more-unhinged facist "base" of her nut-party.

(Question: Which is the bigger current nut-party: "Libertarian," or Republican?)

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September 19, 2009 12:00 PM    in reply to fbacon2

Isn't she and her ilk saying the opposite: that President Obama is doing "too much"?

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September 17, 2009 8:08 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Couldn't we just set up a "TPMTeanuts" tab up there between TPMtv and TPMCafe and lump them altogether? That way we could drop in for comic relief and leave quickly as soon as the laughter is overtaken by the urge to recoil in horror.

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September 17, 2009 8:22 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

Actually, Eric is merely tossing out nominees for the CrazyCards®, a 51-card deck of playing cards.

Nominees so far:
Aces: Bachmann, Palin, Steele, Inhofe (jonny 5)

Kings: Foxx, Cheney, Gingrich, and Sessions (jonny 5)

Queens: Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), Rick Sanatorum (jonny 5)
or Malkin, Coulter, Craig, Sanatorum (Kamil)
or Coulter, Craig, Santorum, Graham (tiowally)

Jack(*sses): Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck (JohnC)

0s (no 10s in 51-card deck; 3 zero cards): Bush 0 of clubs, Yoo 0 of spades, Addington 0 of hearts.

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September 17, 2009 8:39 PM    in reply to tiowally

Bachmann & Palin as jokers.

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September 18, 2009 1:38 AM    in reply to tiowally

What about that closet queen that looks like the biscuit cartoon character, Mitch McConnel, betcha he and Santorum make a gallon every time they meat

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September 17, 2009 10:13 PM    in reply to twirling fartknocker

I agree. While we are focusing on these irrelevant wing-nuts we're missing the opportunity to engage fully in the political and social debates raging behind closed doors in Congress and in the White House.

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September 19, 2009 12:16 PM    in reply to BaileyWu

"engage fully in the political and social debates raging behind closed doors"

Except that you can't -- unless you're on the other side of your postied "closed doors". But if you aren't there, then you can't know there's anything "raging" there.

Try the rational approach.

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September 17, 2009 7:32 PM   

What is really amazing is that she held a position of high responsibility in our government. We should reserve those positions for people with grace, intelligence, wit, experience, and good will.

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September 17, 2009 8:12 PM    in reply to anonymous

So did Dick Cheney. And Johns Bolton, Ashcroft, and Yoo. And Gale Norton. And that crazy ditch who ran the GSA. And Monica Goodling and all the rest of the Regent and Liberty University nutters who infested the regime.

What's you point?

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September 17, 2009 8:16 PM    in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve

I was tracing a similar line in the comments above.

I'd file this story under: "Wow. This was even worse than I thought."

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September 17, 2009 8:34 PM    in reply to anonymous

Ellen Sauerbray was Maryland's Sarah Palin minus the beauty queen good looks. She was the only candidate the GOP could find to run against popular incumbent Governor Parris Glendening, which earned a spot in the National GOP spotlight, but really she was just a school teacher turned abortion rights activist turned hack state-level pol.

Yes she served in the State Dept, but as a recess appointment who no one thought could be confirmed because of her extremist views.

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September 17, 2009 10:14 PM    in reply to anonymous

What is even more amazing is that George Bush was president for 8-years.

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September 17, 2009 7:33 PM   

Man, she's ugly.

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September 17, 2009 11:36 PM    in reply to brewmn61

What's up with her mouth? She looks like she's eating a piano.

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September 17, 2009 7:33 PM   

"fascist, socialist ideals."

Ah, a real student of history.

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September 17, 2009 7:55 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

Entirely educated in historical ideologies indeed. This is nothing new for the GOP, however. They have long used fear tactics to grab and keep power. This is not just reserved for the crazies anymore. These are mainstream Republicans talking. Elected Members of Congress have actually espoused the same line of thought as Saurbrey. Something is very wrong with the direction we are heading.

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September 19, 2009 12:25 PM    in reply to Chris

Those same views tainted the Republican party and discourse pre- and during FDR; during Truman; during Eisenhower. It is summed up as "Joe McCarthy".

Though relatively tamped down during Nixon -- there were "actual" "Commies" to fear and attack, though outside the US -- I heard the beginnings of the public resurgence of that America-hating during Reagan. It was his rhetoric -- it is a "right" to be racist, as example -- which gave license to these loons to step boldly in out of the cesspool dark and present themselves as actually credible with credible views.

They are not to be accepted as a thread in the permanent mainstream -- they are not mainstream. And are not to be given credence -- either by affirmation OR SILENCE. There is no alternative but to push back against them else they continue to march unoppsed, relocating the political "center" to the far-right lunatic fringe edge-of-cliff extremity.

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September 17, 2009 9:46 PM    in reply to AnswerFrog

I was wondering when someone was going to pick up on that remark. As our friends across the Pond say, "Brilliant!!"

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September 17, 2009 7:34 PM   

Yeah, this is the hot news of the day, the money story!

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September 17, 2009 8:15 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

Yeah! Why aren't they covering Acorn?

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September 19, 2009 12:30 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

The illiteracy of you folks is always news among the actually literate. Though we scratch our heads at how such nonsense can not only be confabulated, but BELIEVED, we wonder most how such stupid people can survive without constant instruction in how to breathe.

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September 17, 2009 7:34 PM   

This shit is starting to piss me off.

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September 17, 2009 7:35 PM   

Another Village Idiot.

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September 17, 2009 7:37 PM   

is she responsible for the tidal wave of illegal immigrants?

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September 18, 2009 12:01 AM    in reply to anonymous

Well, apparently she was the Population, Refugees and Migration Czar!

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September 17, 2009 7:38 PM   

Why is she wearing an athletic mouthpiece?

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September 17, 2009 7:40 PM    in reply to fcleff

Now THAT is funny!

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September 17, 2009 7:43 PM   

republicans are such pansies. scared of every damned thing. i've never seen a bigger bunch of cowards. scared of arabs, scared of mexicans, scared of obama, scared of public options, scared of alternative fuels, blah blah blah.

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September 17, 2009 7:55 PM   

So, I guess we should have let the auto industry and the banks fail and take the entire economy down the toilet. Then when we were all wandering in a daze through a treeless, burnt-out landscape eating cockroach stew out of rusty cans left over from the Times of Plenty, at least we'd know we were free!

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September 17, 2009 8:15 PM    in reply to Beautiful Mind of Barbara Bush

Applause! Best comment I've seen in weeks.

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September 19, 2009 12:33 PM    in reply to Beautiful Mind of Barbara Bush

Interesting repeat of history:

FDR saves capitalism from itself -- and that makes him a so-shul-ist.

Obama saves capitalism from itself -- and that makes him a (all together now, repeat after me) so-shul-ist. And even a fascist. Though she denies he's a "Commie".

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September 17, 2009 8:05 PM   

I remember when she lost the governor's race (the first time I think). She filed a bogus challenge that was full of lies and errors trying to claim the election had been stolen. She lost and earned the name "Ellen Sourgrapes" later there was a scandal she was involved in. i'll have to Google to see what it was...

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September 17, 2009 8:41 PM   

Wow, I have never heard someone try to dance along such a fine line before in MY LIFE!

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September 17, 2009 9:00 PM   

Republicans really do support corporate fascism. The entire media in this country is corporate(including PBS) and they make it harder to pass legislation that the majority want. It's not a matter of the Democrats being tough; it's matter of more regular folks getting engaged in the political process.

Even our progressive websites are mostly corporately funded. Hence the relentless Obama bashing and refusal to give him a second to clean anything up. Out of Afghanistan yesterday, they say.

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September 17, 2009 9:11 PM   

I'd like to know how she meshes the two ideologies:
how can someone be both fascist and socialist.

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September 17, 2009 9:38 PM    in reply to mikedrevguy

I asked someone who was holding forth (loudly) on how Obama is both. His answer? Very simple and very convincing (well, to some) You see, the Nazis were officially the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" --- See? The word "socialist" is right there. That proves it.

I just looked at him and said "You know, my dog can call himself a cat all he wants .... but he's still a dog."

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September 17, 2009 9:16 PM   

and further more:
the ideals of the Hitler era Germany sought to dehumanize those of particular racial and social standing - namely through racial denigration, stereotyping, etc. Gosh - that should so much like the practices being employed by a certain group of birthers, tea partiers, and other right wing fringe folks.

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September 17, 2009 9:30 PM   

This just in -- Obama Hitler Obama Fascism Obama Socialism Obama Pol Pot Obama Stalin Obama Destruction of America!

See how it works?

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September 17, 2009 9:33 PM   

"but instead saying that the conditions in this country were such that a dictator could usurp the rights of citizens"
--- Yep. And Cheney tried his darndest to do just that!

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September 19, 2009 12:38 PM    in reply to Elizabeth2

And historically that is usually done by a "strong leader" on the RIGHT. Such as Hitler.

Now, though, we get another magicality: President Obama is both, on the one hand, a weak leader, and on the other, a "strong leader".

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September 17, 2009 10:16 PM   

look @ her ugly mug--enough said. Seriously.

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September 17, 2009 10:39 PM   

Good to know that a j@ck@ss like this was in charge of US foreign policy.

NO wonder int'l relations were sooo good under Bush

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September 17, 2009 10:42 PM   

What is it with Maryland Repubs? Steele & Sauerbrey make a great couple.

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September 19, 2009 12:39 PM    in reply to Sweet Buttery Jeebus

No! That would be miscegenation!

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September 17, 2009 10:44 PM   

ellen sauerbrey! there's a blast from the wingnut past!

ah, the maryland republican party, home to michael steele and ellen sauerbrey.

in a Dem-dominated state like Maryland, the lunatic fringe has nowhere to go BUT the state gop

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September 18, 2009 12:43 AM    in reply to pdxer

Maryland is the vanguard of the Republican Party. Republicans are replicating their fortunes in Maryland all across the entire Northeast, Midwest, Mountain West and Pacific Coast.

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September 17, 2009 10:49 PM   

During the Bush years, it seem as if all the political-level Administration officials were wingnuts, good mainly at avoiding exposure. Sauerbrey has certainly blown her cover.

She wasn't lonely on the job. The Bush anti-reality crowd was sizeable and determined. It's scary to think that these people were once making policy and acting as America's "public face."

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September 17, 2009 11:19 PM   

"... Fascism is not government ownership of business, it is government control of business."

So, what would we call corporate control of government?

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September 17, 2009 11:26 PM   

TPM, why do you Drugdinise this blog? why give them mileage?

Push your case, your agenda, remember "stupid" is a winning strategy in America.

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September 17, 2009 11:38 PM   

Yeah, the Bush administration was populated by scads of unqualified and historically obtuse morons, pretty much like the guy who hired them all. I get it. Believe me, I didn't magically forget the years 2001-2009, so there's no need to keep reminding us all.

Seriously, is this Sauerbrey character all that much more ridiculous and unfounded in what she says that Goddamn Dick Fucking Cheney? Just because he talks in a deeper voice doesn't mean he makes a single damn lick more sense.

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September 17, 2009 11:40 PM   

Do her teeth glow in the dark? In a room with a black light she'd be even scarier.

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September 18, 2009 12:31 AM   

And to think conservatives call you folks clueless. This thread is a good example of why conservatives marched on Washington.
As the lady says, Obama singlehandedly took over auto manufacturing, denied bondholders their legally due debt, gave the companies to the unions, and then performed a government giveaway lasting a week and supporting the Asian auto manufacturers over our own.

With any luck at all the next Republican President will do the same with the MSM except for Fox and talk radio. Meanwhile cronyism made Goldman Sachs whole, and put builders on the dole.
He's invited thug dictators for a conference while revoking the visa of a constitutionally placed President, and just abandoned Eastern Europe to the Russians.

Apparently people that hold jobs, vote, and pay most of the taxes, think this kind of behavior is suspect. And I haven't even mentioned the deficit yet. No, Sauerbrey isn't crazy, overwrought, or hyperbolic. She sees the actual Obama record as heavy handed, and hostile to people such as herself. You can quibble over labels if you like but whatever word you want to use to denote growing central control will do just fine.

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September 18, 2009 12:59 AM    in reply to shooter242

What patent nonsense...your concern about "the deficit", and "Goldman Sachs", and "growing central control". Republicans had 8 years to keep the first two under control and failed miserably at both. As for the latter: for most Americans who "hold jobs, vote, and pay most of the taxes", the most offensive "central controls" by far are the corrupt forces that ruthlessly control every aspect of their healthcare — insurance companies — and the corrupt forces that steal their money — "financial institutions". Seeing how badly the insurance companies have messed up our healthcare and how the banks messed up our entire economy, both with ample help from Republicans, it's hard to see how government could possibly do any worse. Unless, of course, you're talking about a government run by Republicans. But don't worry, it'll be a long time before that ever happens again.

And invoking "the Russians" — how quaint. Oh, for the days when Dr. Strangelove was satire!

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September 18, 2009 7:40 AM    in reply to Big River Bandido

"Oh, for the days when Dr. Strangelove was satire!"

That about sums it up...

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September 19, 2009 12:46 PM    in reply to shooter242

"With any luck at all the next Republican President will do the same with the MSM except for Fox and talk radio."

In short, you are calling for state-owned/run media -- which the subject of this thread calls FASCISM -- so long as it is allowed to spew ONLY the paranoid America-hating far-right lunatic fringe of Nazi-sympathizing Australian Rupert Murdoch.

Thank you for finally revealing your Freudian slip.

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September 18, 2009 12:49 AM   

I find it interesting that Godwin's Law applies to Republicans as well as online chatter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

I don't recall Bush's following being called cult-like when the hard right followed him like lemmings to the Iraq War and the economic meltdown of last year.

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September 19, 2009 12:54 PM    in reply to SocialJustice

I was all along calling out Reagan and Bushit for their Hitler-like cults of personality. Apparently that fact didn't catch on because cults of personality are only evil when not far-right lunatic fringe/fascist.

And note that "shooter" calls for state-owned media -- as part of his complaint against not only fascism but also increasing "centralized control" by "big gov't".

The latter are the people who touted The Federalist (though they are actually "states' rights" anti-Federalists who oppose the Constitution) as the "bible" of their "limited/small gov't" mantra, but apparently have dropped it since learning (from others: they don't read) that it was actually about ratifying a Constitution which established a powerful, centralized Federal gov't.

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September 18, 2009 1:08 AM   

""she said. "I'm saying, if you said ideals -- yes I do believe, when you look at the definition of fascism. Fascism is not government ownership of business, it is government control of business."""

Jeezbus Krike, you really are a stupid bitch! I am not sure where you went to school or if you even managed to graduate from any school, but for sure your standard reich wing repig ignorance is showing.. It is really getting old with all your fucking clowns trying to be polite and delicate and at the same time call our President a Nazi, Fascist and everything but what he is. And you couch your term in your best Rash Lintballs/Looney Toon Beckenese... Fuck You Ellen Sauerbrey, With a name like that, someone should check your birth certificate to see if you aren't the product of some Nazi's one night stand. Why is it that all these Reich Wing Bitches look like Nazi wannabe's??? Gene Damage, perhaps....
The 14 points of Fascism

1.

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2.

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3.

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4.

Supremacy of the Military

Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5.

Rampant Sexism

The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6.

Controlled Mass Media

Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7.

Obsession with National Security

Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8.

Religion and Government are Intertwined

Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9.

Corporate Power is Protected

The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10.

Labor Power is Suppressed

Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11.

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment

Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14.

Fraudulent Elections

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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October 10, 2009 12:04 PM    in reply to raiatean

NOTE: The above 14 Points was written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).

it's always nice to have the creds behind a list like this.

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September 18, 2009 1:29 AM   

Now, whose effing Gov't does that sound like? The previous where Ms. Ellen with more teeth than a Great White, or the present with a President with an IQ in triple digits, instead of being a negative number....

Try as I might, I cannot find anything that says the government controlling corporations or businesses is Fascism.

But being about as brilliant as a box of rocks and thicker than 2 short planks prolly thought #9 was it...

Heh! You lots of fun bitch... You'd fit right in with Beck and Lintballs....

Just this old Chief's 2 cents,and this stupid K-K-K-K-K-K-K*NT
isn't really worth that......
Again Ellen,

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September 18, 2009 7:59 AM    in reply to raiatean

"Try as I might, I cannot find anything that says the government controlling corporations or businesses is Fascism."

Didn't Mussolini define fascism as the merging of the corporations with the state? Or have I got it wrong?

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September 19, 2009 1:01 PM    in reply to MarkOfOhio

Yes. But to the benefit of the leech -- corporations -- manipulating the host -- gov't.

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September 18, 2009 5:43 AM   

Huh. That's really strange; I can't find any reports of her saying anything about the constitutional dismantling that occurred systematically over the past 9 years.

Oh well. I'm sure she was complaining vigorously about it every single day but that damned left-wing media just refused to report it, amirite?

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September 18, 2009 7:14 AM   

Ellen Sauerbrey fed on the same trough as Michael Steele, MD State politics, and is probably not all that clean.
On the other hand, she is old enough to remember Hitler and she may have seen the movie 'Evita', so Eric Kleefeld and TPM are justified in giving her words some weight by presenting her front and center.

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September 18, 2009 7:20 AM   

They say that the Fuehrer was a terrific dancer, and that Churchill couldn't dance a step!

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September 18, 2009 7:58 AM   

These people seem very confused. They want to say every possible bad thing about Obama, but they don't seem to realize or care if their charges contradict each other.

Is this what the final death throes of a political party look like?

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September 18, 2009 9:14 AM    in reply to MarkOfOhio

One can hope. I live just up the road from Ripon & the Little White Schoolhouse; maybe a field trip to leave a wreath & sympathy card is in order?

You know what would be awesome? A press corps made up of two-year-olds. They could follow these people around, and after absorbing a full-bore spiel of teh crazy, they would have just one question:

"Why?"

Another stream of batshit crazy nonsense?

"Why?"

And so on and so forth. Just keeping asking "Why?" over and over again. Make them explain themselves. Since the MSM seems to have dropped that question from their traditional "Who, What, When, Where..." thing, it would be nice to see someone asking it again.

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September 18, 2009 9:04 AM   

A fascist government is usually characterized as "extreme right-wing," and a socialist government as "left-wing". So in this woman's mind, Obama is both a right-wing extremist and a social liberal? Isn't that like Lou Dobbs advocating amnesty for illegal immigrants? Or Glenn Beck promoting the reestablishment of the Fairness Doctrine? Or Rush Limbaugh recruiting for the ACLU?

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September 18, 2009 9:23 AM   

"AP - Hard-liners attacked senior pro-reform leaders in the streets as tens of thousands marched in the streets"
(Iran, not America)

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September 18, 2009 2:20 PM   

These Republican theorists should actually do some reading before they opine. The forcible control of a business by the workers is more like anarco-syndacalism than fascism. CF what happened during the Spanish Civil War in Catalonia. And the fascists were none to happy with that. See Guenica.

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September 18, 2009 2:47 PM   

I have no idea what fact pattern this lady sees that enables her to make this statement. Maybe this is a symptom of 24/7 Fox News?

But... it got me thinking in terms of an analogy between the present challenges confronting government and the times in which these bygone totalitarian regimes came to and held power. Specifically, the bygone apologists for these tyrants would without fail claim; they "made the trains run on-time". Perhaps she sees a truly effective government effort that makes "the trains run on time" as a precursor to an assault on our liberties?

To stretch the analogy a bit further I pose this question: What would the Republican governing model that sought to "make the trains run on time" look like? As I see it there would be three major components to the effort: 1) Any railroad governing body would be composed of former employees of the railroad industry. 2) Any regulating effort would be completely voluntary and would urge the railroads to submit reports showing on-time performance. 3) To prepare for the inevitable fatal crash that tends to occur when the chaos theory is used to control which trains run on which tracks... Compose and have on file a press release that deplores the loss of life but explains that such is the cost of doing business because after all; trains are dangerous things. 3a) Alert any sympathetic press to be ready to label any critics of the tragedy as being ‘pro horse and buggy’.

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