As we've been reporting, Sens. Kent Conrad (D-ND) and Max Baucus (D-MT) responded to Rep. Joe "You Lie" Wilson (R-SC) with incredulity by implicitly affirming his false accusation that Democratic health care legislation will be a boon to illegal immigrants.
That move hasn't gone unnoticed, and Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)--a co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus--has some pretty harsh words for the two.
"The senators are knee-jerking and over-reacting," Grijalva told me today, denouncing the move.
Grijalva has emerged in recent weeks as one of the House progressives most committed to insisting health care reform legislation include a public option.
"Part of the problem with the Finance Committee bill is that it's being done to appease people instead of being done to put something together," Grijalva said, calling the process "tainted" and "discredited" and noting that "the people putting it together are ex-lobbyists."
Grijalva insisted he wants to "set the bar high and not do something that's at the lower common denominator."
"If that happens," he said, "I thnk passage of the legislation will be very, very difficult."

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AdAbsurdum
September 11, 2009 5:08 PM
Other Dems need to follow suit; I'll be letting Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee's office and my neighbors know know that I want her to speak up on this.
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Indie Pro
September 11, 2009 5:16 PM
Good on Grijalva! We know which side you are on. Won't forget ya when you need us.
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trog69
September 11, 2009 6:11 PM in reply to Indie Pro
Indie Pro, Raul G. has been a great progressive leader for a long time here in S. Az. He never sold his principles in exchange for compromise, and he does not forget the little guys. A great leader for a change.
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Indie Pro
September 11, 2009 6:14 PM in reply to trog69
now that's the kind of representative I want to donate to.
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aikbay
September 11, 2009 10:48 PM in reply to trog69
I believe Grijalva was the first major AZ pol to endorse Obama so I think he kind of owes Grijalva something. Obama's been an overall disappointment to me so I won't be shocked if he disses Grijalva but I would hope that he would at least listen to Grijalva.
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JNagarya
September 14, 2009 1:19 PM in reply to aikbay
Imagine how bad Obama would have turned out if he'd run into opposition, eh?
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plaidsportcoat
September 11, 2009 8:21 PM in reply to Indie Pro
Let's get Grijalva someplace else that needs some spine - like the Supreme Court or the Senate
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JEP07
September 11, 2009 5:26 PM
"Part of the problem with the Finance Committee bill is that it's being done to appease people instead of being done to put something together," Grijalva said, calling the process "tainted" and "discredited" and noting that "the people putting it together are ex-lobbyists."
This Grijalva fellow should be on Obama's cabinet somewhere.
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theone718
September 11, 2009 7:56 PM in reply to JEP07
He was going to but methinks something was found in the vetting. He was a leading candidate. I actually like him better in the Congress at the moment.
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Tank
September 12, 2009 1:36 PM in reply to theone718
Grijalva was a finalist for Interior secretary. He would've been a far better choice than Salazar. Certainly much greener.
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sbv
September 11, 2009 5:34 PM
let's face it; baucus and conrad both are walking a fine line between appearing they are crafting a genuine piece of reform legislation while protecting their corporate sponsors and campaign coffers.
their vote has been bought both on health care and cap and trade. just get their watered down, delaying bill out of committee so we can move on with getting both houses of government bills passed and onto conference.
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roxanne
September 11, 2009 5:38 PM
Well done Sir! I'm glad that the liberals and Progressives are being made aware that this bill was written by Liz Fowler who's an aide to Baucus who worked for Wellpoint before rejoining Baucus. Wellpoint is the parent company of Blue Cross and Blue Shield. This piece of garbage Baucus is pushing should be trown in the trash when he presents it and Senator Kennedy's bill should be passed! I've been asking everyone who contacts their senator or congressmen to tell them that you're joining groups on the blogs who are not going to donate anymore money to the Dems until after the bill is passed with a strong public option with no triggers and remind them of the great fundraising that's taking place right now for Rob Miller by us! This could be our leverage!
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Zulia
September 11, 2009 5:52 PM
I love Rep. Grijalva -- he gets what real reform is - he made it plain that the Dems have compromised enough already by taking single-payer out of the game and now is the time to stick to your principles and get a bill passed that actually does something for the people - not insurance lobbyists.
Grijalva is backing a public option as the best way to lower costs and provide real competition. The conventional wisdom about a Democratic majority Congress having to bow to corporate interests, and conservative ideology in order to pass bills is true only as long as Dems act in ways that reinforce that idea.
I like how Rep. Gijalva tells us who's against the public interest, and why- and that he's going to fight them.
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nancydenis
September 11, 2009 7:26 PM
The issue is much more than just healthcare (as important as that is). You can not claim you are going to call out those who lie and misrepresent your position (as the President did in his speech before congress) and then have your boys not only not call out the lie but write legislation that plays to the hand of the playground bully yelling and telling lies!
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3star2nr
September 11, 2009 7:47 PM
agreed Throw that finance bill in the trash and kick baicus and kent conrad and ben nelso OUT
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favor for a favor
September 11, 2009 8:47 PM
How do you donate to Grijalva?
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NotBornEveryMinute
September 12, 2009 7:49 AM in reply to favor for a favor
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12662
for example.
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ru4862
September 11, 2009 11:55 PM
Grijalva hit it on the nail. But i wouldn't be surprised if the White House green lighted the move.
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rebop
September 12, 2009 10:59 AM
The same thing happened with "death panels." Palin initially got mocked for claiming there were provisions for "death panels" in the bill. The Democratic response? "There are no death panels, but we'll take the death panels (end of life counseling provisions) out of the bill if it makes you feel better." Did that appease the crazies on the right? Of course not, it only lent legitimacy to their claim that there were "death panels" in the first place. And never mind the fact that end of life counseling is good policy that Republicans used to support.
Now they're doing the same thing with the "illegal immigrant" claim. "Toughening up" the anti-undocumented worker provisions won't make Republicans happy. All it does is legitimize their claim that there was a "secret plan" to cover "illegals" in the first place.
Good to see at least one Democrat gets it.
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rstephen
September 12, 2009 4:48 PM
What's wrong with this picture: Max Baucus and Kent Conrad writing a health care reform bill for 300 million Americans. Let's leave out the fact that they are both up to their eyeballs in bribes from the health care industry. My little county in California (orange) has twice the population of their two states combined. They don't represent my interests. They represent the interests of the insurance industry along with a few dozen gun-toting, backcountry hicks.
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Juble
September 12, 2009 6:53 PM
Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) is turning out to be a real hero to many progressive.All those so called progressive i.e. Boxer & Feingold absent during the most important debate of the day.
I certainly have no problem calling his office and thanking him for standing up to the staus quo on behalf of wqorking people.
Grijalva :ph (202) 225-2435
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Verified
September 12, 2009 11:08 PM
Where's VP Biden in all this? I'd like to know what influence or lack of influence he still has in the senate and what he is being asked to do by the WH to get this legislation passed.
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Mike Bakunin
September 13, 2009 10:05 AM
It happened so quickly, Baucus was most likely looking for an excuse to do just what he did.
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NH Bob
September 13, 2009 12:39 PM
Those two creeps, Raucus and Gonad, represent about three percent of the population of the USA and one hundred percent of the health insurance companies. Why is the party caving in to their likes? We need a new Senate leader for one thing. Meanwhile, in the House, men like Grijalva are setting the pace for what the nation ought to be when this nonsense is over.
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