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The motion to disapprove of Rep. Joe Wilson's (R-SC) outburst of "You lie!" during President Obama's speech to Congress last week has now passed in the House.

The numbers: 240 Yes, 179 No, and 5 Present.

Late Update: In terms of party breakdown, 12 Democrats voted No, and five Dems voted Present. In addition, seven Republicans voted Yes.

Late Late Update: The roll call vote is available here. The listing of crossover votes is available after the jump.

The following seven Republicans voted in favor of the resolution: Joseph Cao (LA), Jo Ann Emerson (MO), Jeff Flake (AZ), Bob Inglis (SC), Walter Jones (NC), Tom Petri (WI), and Dana Rohrabacher (CA).

The following 12 Democrats voted no: Michael Arcuri (NY), Bill Delahunt (MA), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ), Maurice Hinchey (NY), Paul Hodes (NH), Dennis Kucinich (OH), Dan Maffei (NY), Eric Massa (NY), Jim McDermott (WA), Gwen Moore (WI), Gene Taylor (MS), and Harry Teague (NM).

The following five Democrats voted present -- which in parliamentary terms is a polite form of voting no: Eliot Engel (NY), Bill Foster (IL), Barney Frank (MA), Carol Shea-Porter (NH), and Ike Skelton (MO).

And the following six Democrats and four Republicans missed the vote: Gary Ackerman (D-NY), Gresham Barret (R-SC), Mike Conaway (R-TX), Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), Stephen Lynch (D-MA), John McHugh (R-NY), Joe Sestak (D-PA), John Tanner (D-TN), Nydia Velázquez (D-NY), and Maxine Waters (D-CA).

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September 15, 2009 5:38 PM   

Take that, SMARTASS!!!

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September 15, 2009 5:40 PM   

Now that's a disapproval we can believe in!

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September 15, 2009 5:40 PM   

not a motion to censure him, though; just a slap on the wrist, albeit a public one.

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September 16, 2009 1:11 AM    in reply to SPENCER ADAMS

That's OK; the main thing was for the House to go on record disapproving of the blatant violation of the rules against ad hominem attacks on the House floor that Wilson's outburst constituted. That should not have been passed over with an official shrug, and now it hasn't been.

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September 15, 2009 5:44 PM   

**I wish this came with an ass spanking.

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September 15, 2009 5:46 PM    in reply to greylox

He'll get that later from the hooker.

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September 15, 2009 5:47 PM    in reply to greylox

Yuck! I wouldn't want to watch that!

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September 15, 2009 5:53 PM    in reply to greylox

He's a Repug he'd like it too much, especially from Jeffy Gannon.

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September 15, 2009 6:00 PM    in reply to greylox

heheeheheeeeee. I think you have a new proposal here for protocols in both of our Sacred Houses.

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September 15, 2009 5:44 PM   

He says there are issues that are more pressing in America. Honestly I see this issue as being one of the most important. If there is no sincere debate, then there is no progress on any of those issues in the first place.

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September 15, 2009 5:48 PM   

The best part was hearing Wilson -- the ultimate low-level political panderer -- trying to accuse the Democrats of playing politics while he refused to apologize. What a bold brilliant strategy.

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September 15, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to traitorjoe

He's a pooper.

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September 15, 2009 5:50 PM   

Congratulations, you sniveling pile of doo. You now are written into the history books as a racist, vulgar j@ckass with a temper tantrum problem.

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September 15, 2009 5:51 PM   

Hey, Joe - I heard you tried to shout the Pres'dent down
Hey, Joe - heard you thought you'd shout Obama down
Yes I did, I shouted - thought I'd make a fool of myself 'round this town
Yes indeed I shouted - now I'm lookin' like a sorry bastard, like a sorry ass clown

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September 15, 2009 5:53 PM    in reply to ttarleton

'Scuse me while I kiss this guy! Well done TTarleton.

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September 15, 2009 7:34 PM    in reply to traitorjoe

Sorry, but I can't let this go. It's: "scuse me while I kiss the sky"

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September 15, 2009 10:11 PM    in reply to counter coulter

I cannot believe you corrected my joke. I know it's 'scuse me while I kiss the sky ... but that's not funny. I changed it to "scuse me while I kiss this guy" because his comment about Hendrix was so brilliant.

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September 15, 2009 5:56 PM   

Take note: This is the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans will more or less stand by their members even when they have done something this obviously stupid and wrong. Democrats would have voted overwhelmingly against their own member. Furthermore, Republican's actually build their strength in cases like this by playing the victim and standing up to the oppressive majority.

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September 15, 2009 6:22 PM    in reply to eric the red

Perhaps. But not with the public -- nor, apparently with Joe Wilson's former voters.

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September 15, 2009 5:58 PM   

Hey, look at the count! Some Republicans voted for, and some Democrats voted against. It was a bipartisan bill. Is there hope for Health Care Reform? Thanks, Joe. You brought the country together.

Now, on to reconciliation?

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September 15, 2009 5:58 PM   

What dems voted no and which ones were the wusses who voted present? Can't wait to find out if my blue scum voted against it.

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September 15, 2009 6:00 PM   

Okay, so who the fuck were the crossovers?

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September 15, 2009 6:09 PM    in reply to oleeb

So, here are the crossovers, as reported in Politico.

Seven Republicans voted to rebuke Wilson: Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana, Joanne Emerson of Missouri, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Walter Jones of North Carolina, Tom Petri of Wisconsin, Dana Rohrabacher of California and fellow South Carolinian Bob Inglis.

But 12 Democrats voted no on the resolution: Michael Arcuri of New York, Bill Delahunt of Massachusetts, Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona, Maurice Hinchey of New York, Paul Hodes of New Hampshire, Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, Dan Maffei of New York, Eric Massa of New York, James McDermott of Washington, Gwen Moore of Wisconsin, Gene Taylor of Mississippi and Harry Teague of New Mexico


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27194_Page2.html#ixzz0RDQwzKOz

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September 15, 2009 6:18 PM    in reply to gmarshall

Kucinich???

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September 15, 2009 8:33 PM    in reply to Cool Blue Reason

I think both parties consider him a kook.

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September 16, 2009 1:18 AM    in reply to Cool Blue Reason

Notice that Barney Frank voted "Present," which is the same as voting No. Frank said he didn't want to see the House in the business of deciding who was a jerk. He's got a point, but I think maintaining some surface civility is a more important one.

Kucinich's vote doesn't mean he agreed with Wilson, only that he disagreed with the motion to register official disapproval.

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September 16, 2009 3:55 PM    in reply to Cool Blue Reason

Kucinich is kind of a civil liberties absolutist. He probably sees it as free speech thing.

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September 15, 2009 6:02 PM   

Seven Republicans? That's bipartisanship we can believe in.

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September 15, 2009 6:02 PM   

Seven Republicans with some class.

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September 15, 2009 6:13 PM    in reply to Hussein Stemper

Dana Rohrabacher does NOT have class!

And the 12 Democrats who voted "NO" shocked me. Only one southern Blue Dog, Gene Taylor, and a bunch of liberals--even a black liberal, Gwen Moore, voted no.

I want to know the 5 Dems who voted Present.

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September 15, 2009 6:21 PM    in reply to FreeRider

Yeah, Rohrbacher is a surprise to me. Zero class.

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September 15, 2009 6:18 PM   

Dems Voting Present:
Engel
Foster
Frank (MA)
Shea-Porter
Skelton

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September 15, 2009 6:22 PM   

Did you all hear Joe Wilson's reason as to why he is not a racist? This is priceless.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2903

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September 15, 2009 7:00 PM   

Chapter 2 of the Martyrdom of Joe Wilson begins tomorrow.
Like the shallow-as-a-puddle Sarah Palin being elevated to Great White Hope of the GOP fringe because of a few words she uttered while campaigning last year and her Facebook posts, Joe Wilson becomes a standard-bearer for the soreheads with only 2 words.

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September 15, 2009 7:10 PM   

LOL @ Barney Frank and Dennis Kucinich

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September 15, 2009 10:39 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

Imagine that, they may have been voting their conscience. Who knows what that's about, but not sure why you'd ridicule their votes.

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September 15, 2009 11:11 PM    in reply to Dorn76

Maybe because they are outspoken big-mouths too?

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September 15, 2009 7:24 PM   

Why Joe Wilson Should've Gotten the 'Seinfeld Punishment'
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=8827

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September 15, 2009 7:28 PM   

Why didn't Sestak vote? He's missed a lot of votes this year.

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September 15, 2009 7:31 PM   

Sure like to hear from Barney Frank and Dennis Kucinich on why they voted NO.

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September 15, 2009 7:32 PM   

Does anyone know the breakdown geographically of the Republicans who for for, and the Dem's who voted against? I think that might be telling.

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September 15, 2009 7:33 PM   

Geez, nevermind. I only read the ministory, and missed the details on the full story. lol

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September 15, 2009 7:40 PM   

Actually, "Present" in parliamentary terms is in the direct sense an abstention, which in the best of uses is a principled action. Presumably in this case some of those voting "Present" were truly abstaining against the relatively weak tenor of the motion (I would have voted no in opposition to the repressive 'gentlemanly' rules of decorum).

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September 15, 2009 8:38 PM   

Could be some of the "no" Democrats were protesting the fact that it wasn't a vote for censure.

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September 15, 2009 8:46 PM   

Eric - does anyone ever check or respond to help@talkingpointsmemo.com? I've sent the the same email once a month for six months.

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September 15, 2009 8:53 PM   

I was surprised by the voting patterns on this resolution...

For the Democrats voting no/present, nearly all of them are pretty liberal and I'm not sure why they're not voting for it. For instance, Dennis Kucinich, Gwen Moore, and Jim McDermott are among the most liberal members of the entire Congress and they all voted no.

The only no votes that make sense are Taylor (his MS district gave McCain 68% of the vote), Teague (facing a tough election next year in a conservative NM district), Arcuri (had an unexpectedly tough race in 2008), Hodes (running for Senate in NH) and Giffords (represents a GOP-leaning district in southern AZ).

ON THE OTHER HAND, lots of Democrats who are much more conservative and vulnerable for defeat voted yes. A few examples:
Walt Minnick (won in 2008 by one point in a conservative Idaho district and has voted against the Dems on EVERYTHING so far)
Bobby Bright (another conservative freshman Dem from a very Republican district in Alabama)
Charlie Melancon (running against David Vitter for Senate in a state that has become even more conservative lately)
Tom Perriello (beat Virgil Goode in a close race in a conservative VA district last year)
Parker Griffith (another conservative freshman Dem from Alabama who recently said he would not vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker again)

Nearly all of the conservative Democrats in the House voted for this, which is a good sign and honestly a surprise to me. No doubt Jim Clyburn worked extra hard in his job as Majority Whip on this particular resolution!

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September 15, 2009 8:59 PM   

I'm surprised and disappointed my rep, Jim McDermott, voted no on this. He's a progressive guy and a good rep for our district. I wonder what his reasoning was.

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September 16, 2009 1:09 AM    in reply to Bademus

McDermott is not my rep (Inslee). But I would be interested to know as well. Someone should ask.

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September 15, 2009 9:20 PM   

What in the world to you make out of these voting patterns?

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September 15, 2009 10:07 PM   

And he is still defiant. A black man should be sent to every public event Wilson speaks. Every ten minutes the black man should shout, "You lie." How about sending Charles Barkley for the first meeting, then Lawrence Taylor, then Dennis Rodman, and so on.

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September 15, 2009 10:12 PM   

Joe Wilson would crap in his pants if he saw Charles Barkley or Lawrence Taylor staring at him.

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September 15, 2009 10:52 PM   

My guess is that McDermott, Frank, Kucinich, et. al., just voted against this because it's a farce - the Democrats vote to make a point, and the Republicans vote to defend their guy. It's meaningless. The only things we learn from this vote are things we already knew.

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September 15, 2009 11:24 PM   

Maybe Kucinich et al. believe that congress "decorum" is phony and that it's better if everyone just speak their mind.

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September 15, 2009 11:24 PM   

Has anyone else noticed that Drudge is highlighting the House rules prohibiting calling the president a liar as if these rules are some new invention by the Democrats?

The rules are nothing new. They are the same rules that were in place when the Republicans ran the Congress. They have basically been in place for the past 200 years.

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September 16, 2009 12:20 AM   

the 2 names that stuck out to me are Kucinich and Frank. I can understand the former but does anyone know about Frank?

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September 16, 2009 1:28 AM    in reply to dCreed

Frank said he didn't think the House should be in the business of deciding who was and was not a jerk.

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September 16, 2009 11:46 AM    in reply to slb

I agree with Barney to some extent - I would prefer if the House made rules that any member guilty of such an outburst be removed from the chamber immediately, while the cameras are rolling. Wilson, or other members, need to be removed if they cannot behave themselves with respect and decorum.

I don't agree that it wasn't important for the House to take some formal action. Without it, what we would soon have is the townhall teabaggers making it impossible for anyone else to have a discussion.

The funniest part of the whole thing to me remains that Wilson's shout of "you lie!" was itself a lie which was promptly called out all over the media. How often does that happen? In the service of throwing red meat to the 25%ers, he got himself labelled as a lying, ill-mannered jerk with everyone else.

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September 16, 2009 1:18 PM    in reply to JennOfArk

I think I like the immediate removal idea. Sort of like giving a 2-year-old a time out. And that's about the level of this behavior: like a 2-year-old.

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