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A large majority of Americans (of both political parties) say they find Democrats' health care reform plan confusing, and that President Obama has failed to clearly explain the proposal

About 67 percent of those questioned in a new CBS News poll said they don't understand the reforms. Sixty-nine percent of Republicans find the new reforms confusing as do 58 percent of Democrats.

The poll comes at the end of the month in which health care headlines were dominated by words like "death" and "panel." This weekend, Washington Post ombudsman Andrew Alexandr concluded that "of roughly 80 A-section stories on health-care reform since July 1, all but about a dozen focused on political maneuvering or protests."

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September 1, 2009 9:31 AM   

There's a good reason: From my reading, about 75 percent of journalists and bloggers don't understand health insurance reform either.

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September 1, 2009 9:47 AM    in reply to converse

Exactly. Journalists can't be bothered with the details. It's so much easier to B.S. about death panels and political manuveuring, and they can't be proven wrong by doing so.

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September 1, 2009 9:45 AM   

There's also the FACT that the media and Democrats have been spending the biggest part of the last two months knocking down LIES that have been spewed by Republicans and some in the media.

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September 1, 2009 10:02 AM    in reply to coonsey

True. Oh...And most Americans don't take the opportunity to educate themselves on things they don't understand.

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September 1, 2009 10:20 PM    in reply to ru4862

Aced

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September 1, 2009 10:33 AM   

Please get off the GOP lies...Obama does NOT write the legislation--Congress does or in this case has not! He is out defending principles..of what the people have said they want...The congress has failed to do their job and created this morass...No wonder the people are so angry --the repubs and the media are pushing lies and distortion..There is no OBAMACARE---CONGRESS FAILS THE PEOPLE AGAIN!

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September 1, 2009 10:42 AM    in reply to Docb

But Obama is our leader - he should be 'controlling' Dems in congress and he's not. Clinton had the same problem. Bush unfortunately did not.

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September 1, 2009 10:57 AM    in reply to coonsey

Well according to the Dems in Congress, they answer only to their constituents. Dems pride themselves on dissent, challenging their leaders. The GOP falls in line. It's not the leadership, it's the beliefs of their supporters.

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September 1, 2009 12:50 PM    in reply to Docb

Four out of five committees in Congress have passed detailed legislation. Exactly one person is holding up the process, this is hardly a failure of Congress as a whole. Pelosi, Waxman, Dingell, Kennedy, Dodd all did their job weeks ago.

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September 1, 2009 10:40 AM   

How many times has Obama been on TV since elected, outlining Healthcare Reform?

Didn't he run on Exchanges?

Wasn't the choice during the election between exchanges and rebates as a way of reforming healthcare?

If anyone is to blame, it is the GOP's obfuscation offensive (with their allies help), and the willful ignornace of the media and American people.

That being said, if the Public Option is lost, I think it is imperative for the mangdate to be lost as well. Otherwise, aren't we basically enacting McCain's rebate? Maybe not the $5000 rebate exactly, but fairly close.

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September 1, 2009 11:38 AM   

Well there's the effect of the Guns of August. Living in a rabbit hole for two months, and to think, nobody knows what's in the bill

What happened to "read the bill"?

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September 1, 2009 11:38 AM   

Hello WaPo Ombudsman!

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September 1, 2009 12:09 PM   

In fairness, I'll bet a majority don't understand the programs we already have, like SSA, Medicare and Medicaid, except in the rudimentary details.

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September 1, 2009 12:58 PM    in reply to rb6

Man you got that right. I have been commenting and blogging on Social Security pretty much non-stop since Bush threw down the gauntlet in Nov 2004. It is simply astonishing how much of what people "know" about Social Security just isn't true at all. It's like shoveling back the tide.

The same is true here. The House Bill is available for inspection as is the HELP Bill, but all people can talk about is hypotheticals based on process stories coming out of Finance. The HELP Bill is a perfectly good starting place. It did concede too much to the oppostion and should be strengthened and moved in the direction of the Tri-Committee Bill. So tell people to get started.

Under Senate Rule 14 Finance can be bypassed, particularly if it is deadlocked. The only thing stopping Reid or any other Senator from invoking it is the fear of a temper tantrum from Baucus. Well screw Senatorial Courtesy, time to give them the Johnson Treatment. This photo is a classic:
http://face2face.si.edu/.a/6a00e550199efb883301156fb7b650970c-pi

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September 1, 2009 12:17 PM   

These numbers aren't surprising.

What is Obama's plan, exactly? The White House hasn't proposed one, has it? And the Senate hasn't finalized a plan. The House has, but we never hear much about that.

Then again, as Josh Bolton put it, you never roll out a product in August. Maybe that's the secret White House strategy.

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September 1, 2009 12:27 PM   

Public Option. 51 Votes. Full steam ahead!

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September 1, 2009 4:42 PM   

The GOP lie assault certainly muddied the water, but Dem timidity is equally responsible for the confusion. "Medicare for all" would have been easy to communicate and the sell. So would "single payer". It's all the backpedaling and weaseling with "compromises" that predictably gave Republicans their big chance to bamboozle the public. When Dems lack the courage of their supposed convictions, yeah -- everything gets hard to understand.

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September 1, 2009 4:56 PM   

Can someone tell me what is so hard about the following:

The public option will be exactly like a private insurance plan. However, the government will charge a LOW premium with LOW prices for drugs. Premiums will go to paying for your medical procedures if you buy the government plan. UNLIKE the private plans to date, the government plan will not have restrictions for pre-existing conditions; will not drop you for any reason; and the government will negotiate to get you the lowest prices for your drugs. If you belong to the government plan, NOT ONE PENNY of your premiums will go to advertising or failed Research and Development (R&D) or to exorbitant CEO salaries. That's why the government plan will be good for low income participants, those who lose their jobs, and the poor.

IS THAT SO DIFFICULT? So, why doesn't Obama and his cohorts say this? My view is that Obama does not want to do anything to hurt the insurance industry or PhRMA. His love of Wall Street and Bankers also extends to the Insurance industry and PhRMA. He wants them to continue to add to their bottom line, to make millions for the investors, to continue paying unbelievable sums to the CEOs and other executives in salaries and bonuses. That's what creates the monies that then go to Obama and the Blue Dogs for their election and re-election campaigns. Do you really think Obama is depending on us for our $10, $25, even $1,000 or $2,000 donations? That's his Arugula money. He wants the Millions he gets from the Oligarchy, not the pennies he gets from us. A crappy health care reform bill gets him the full support of the big guys--get it?!?!!!!

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September 1, 2009 5:47 PM   

There is nothing to understand. There's really no proposal, just vague statements of general and ever shifting parameters from the President, and a dismaying and drawn-out display of ineffectual sausage-making in Congress.

If this were an ad campaign for e.g. Coca-Cola it would have been canceled long ago and the agency responsible would have been sacked. It's time that someone on high realized that this is a PRODUCT that needs to be sold, it needs to be packaged as an idea that can be articulated in less than a ten-minute monologue, and someone in charge needs to say what he means and make it sound good.

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September 2, 2009 1:58 AM   

Obama must be the most overrated 'great communicator' in the history of the Republic. Nearly 80% of the public started out wanting a public option. But instead of leading on the issue, Obama has done nothing but waffle and sound undecided and confused. I have never seen such a poor example of leadership. All style and no substance or guts. If this is an example of what to expect for the next four years, expect a Republican in the White House in 2013.

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September 2, 2009 11:06 AM   

Theme : 6 Main Lies Have Nothing To Do With This Promising Reform / Without reform, Medicare system doomed.

If the findings of CBO over inaction had been released earlier, Ted Kennedy could've seen his lifetime wish come true.

Inaction cost, $9trillion over the next decade, can not be compared to the balance between estimate and outcome in a worst case of scenario, and this balance could be adjusted each year. ((Some of CBO analysis : While the costs of the financial bailouts and economic stimulus bills are staggering, they are only a fraction of the coming costs from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that each year Medicaid will expand by 7 percent, Medicare by 6 percent, and Social Security by 5 percent. These programs face a 75-year shortfall of $43 trillion--60 times greater than the gross cost of the $700 billion TARP financial bailout)). Time does not fix endless greed and energy depletion.

When the public health is also one of commodity like a house, we come to a tragic and unthinkable conclusion : As to for-profit business, the more and longer ills patients get, the more profits they make, and it will debilitate the overall economy involving education for the future, not to mention continued bankruptcy of middle class.

Of young adults ages 19 to 29, 13.2 million, or 29 percent, lacked coverage in 2007, and that implies the total of this promising reform will be cheaper than expected, I guess.

In case of an unexpected injury or ill, they might give up their learning or aspiration, in this regard, this reform means liberty, job opportunity, competitiveness for them and future.


1. The contents of savings (below) in this reform 'have nothing to do with' limit to medical access, rationing, tax raise, and deficit etc.

Rather, without wiping out these wastes and roots of bankruptcy for middle class, all fronts are sure to face larger financial ruin than this recession, which leads to more limit to medical access, more rationing, more tax raise, and more deficit etc than today.

$1.042trillion (cost of reform) + $245bn (cost to reflect annual pay raise of docs) = $1.287bn (actual cost of reform).

$583bn (the revenue package) + $80bn (so-called doughnut hole) + $155bn (savings from hospitals) + $167bn (ending the unnecessary subsidies for insurers) + 129bn(mandate-related fine based on shared responsibility) + $277bn (ending medical fraud, a minimum of 3% , the combined Medicare and Medicaid cost of $923.5bn per year, as of July,) = $1.391trillion + the reduced cost of ER visits (Medicare covers some 40% of the total) + the tax code on the wealthiest more reduced than originally proposed = why not ? (except for a magic pill, an outcome-based payment reform & IT effects and so forth).

As lawmakers debate how to pay for an overhaul of the nation's health care system, a new report from The Commonwealth Fund claims that including both private and public insurance choices in a new insurance exchange would save the United States as much as $265 billion in administrative costs from 2010 to 2020.

"Health reform can help pay for itself, but both private and public insurance choices are critically important," said Commonwealth Fund President Karen Davis, who coauthored the new report. "A public insurance plan can help drive new efficiencies in the system that will produce large cost reductions. Without a public plan, much of those potential savings will be lost."

Unlike high fuel price and mortgage rate in recent years as the roots of great recession and bankruptcy of middle class, the severity in the high cost of health premiums has come to light lately. Similarly, in an attempt to hide these deficit-driven corruptions and wastes, the greed allies struggle to turn the savings via removing these wastes into limit to medical access, rationing, tax raise, and deficit etc.

In contrast, not to mention a wide range of consumer protection, options across state lines, this promising reform takes initiatives in more primary care docs and improved long-term care. And the bill expands coverage for mental health services, and defines what will be covered. It also prohibits co-payment charges for wellness and preventive medical care. There is no mention of rationing. The use of this term is, again, a gratuitous distraction aimed at feeding fear

2. Greedy insurers with no competitors by consolidation have nothing to do with the law of price, demand & supply.

Under the free market theory and the premise that the public health is also one of commodity like a house, if the demand decreases on a large scale, accordingly the price tends to reflect it, as in the case of house price, and it never happens for the price to spiral up. One step forward, in case the price is spiraling up, to be sure, the remaining clients should withdraw the contract or choose the other options. In practice, runaway premiums with no competitors by consolidation drive the enrollees out, and 4C + 2R (canceling, capping, cherry-picking, cash for special lobby, rationing, rapid premium hike) guarantee multiple times as much profit. Sadly, no way-out other than the prohibitive ER is allowed in America. Therefore, the victims today and tomorrow deserve long overdue protection from non-profit Government.

3. The plans to stem inflation in the House have nothing to do with crowd-out.
With the heartbreaking tears in mind (In no other industrialized country do 20,000 people die each year because they can’t afford to see doctor. Nearly 11 Million Cancer Patients Without Health Insurance), private market also needs changes and should join together to complete this reform , as promised, otherwise, the runaway premium only has itself to blame while new firms are filling the void with competitive deals.
And It can be said that fair competition starts with a fair, sustainable market value.

However, the plan in the House is designed to keep people in an employer-based health insurance system, and the public option would be offered to those for whom employer-provided insurance is not available. And job-based coverage (indirect payment), some mandate code, ample capital, the reduced exorbitant ER costs, IT base to streamline the administrative processes and trim the costs might be favorable to the private market. Over time, supposedly, the public plan will concentrate more on basic, primary cares, and the private insurers will provide their clients with differentiated services. And focus should be on the uninsured, the underinsured.

-- Except For The Underinsured, The Uninsured Alone Outnumber The Entire Population In Canada --

In an attempt to avert innovation, moderation, and social responsibility, accusing essential affordability, citing take-over, will be a dirty play.

4. Profit-driven markets have nothing to do with affordable, sustainable public health.

When the public health is also one of commodity like a house, we come to a tragic and unthinkable conclusion : As to for-profit business, the more and longer ill patients get, the more profits they make, and it will debilitate the overall economy involving education for the future (Of young adults ages 19 to 29, 13.2 million, or 29 percent, lacked coverage in 2007).

Under the most wasteful structure on the planet like no coordinated preventive care program waiting until people get ill, about 50% of idle world's best practices, a pay for each and every service reimbursement and frequent readmissions, no e-medical record and deaths, crushing litigations and the more profits via the unnecessary, risk-carrying procedures, and the most inefficient paper billing systems imaginable, overpriced pharmaceuticals, bloated insurance companies, incredible medial fraud, exorbitant costs by the tragic ER visits etc, it might be no wonder with the comprehensive, systematic reform in the pipeline, just one attitude of patient-oriented value in 10 regions has attained 16% of savings in Medicare while their quality scores are well above average.

Aside from the already allocated $583 billion and the savings of this reform package, 16% of $923.5bn (the combined Medicare and Medicaid cost per year, as of July) is around $147.76bn per year and 1.4776trillion over the next decade, and this patient-oriented value alone could be enough to meet the goal.

Please be 'sure' to visit http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?hp for credible evidences !

Today, another innovative, fundamental change in payment system, or patient's outcome based payment reform that is able to turn the profit-oriented malpractices and volume into the patient-oriented value and quality is waiting for a final decision.

Now that Minnesota spends "20 percent" less per patient than the national average and 31 percent less than in the highest cost state, under a pay for patient's outcome pack, this promising reform could be successful along the way, I believe.

Aside from the already allocated $583 billion and the savings of this reform package, "20%" of $923.5bn (the combined Medicare and Medicaid cost per year, as of July) is around $184.7bn per year and 1.847trillion over the next decade, and this patient-oriented value alone could be sufficient to meet the goal.


5. Inflation-driven greedy allies backed by the insurers have nothing to do with deficit-neutral.

When some part of our body is ailing seriously, we are going to lose competitiveness, equally, when some part of a nation is ailing servery, it is going to loose competitiveness, too. In case somebody in the house gets ill, health will be put over house, in practice.


6. The analyses of CBO have nothing to do with common sense and practice.

Costs of Preventable Chronic Disease account for around 75% of the nation’s $2.4 trillion medical care costs. U.S. health care spending is also expected to double in the next 10 years. and they are largely preventable -- 80 percent of the risk factors are behavior-related.

Unlike the analyses of CBO, world-wide outstanding public programs put heavier emphasis on preventive program equally, and preventable swine flu pandemic is expected to cost about $2trillion dollars world-wide for the lack of prepared vaccines. (Genes included in the new swine flu have been circulating undetected in pigs for at least a decade, according to a team led by Rebecca Garten of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who have sequenced the genomes of more than 50 samples of the virus).

If CBO asks the profit-driven interests about why they have hindered the budget request for preventive program in Medicare and Medicaid, they will say, " just look at the health Katrina special lobbying has made, the more and longer ills, the more profits, we are professional, and we are obstructing this reform right now, too " .

7. Conclusion : The public health is a fundamental human right.

As I said above, patient-oriented value alone could be enough to meet the goal, and another innovative, fundamental change in payment system, or patient's outcome based payment reform that is able to turn the profit-oriented malpractices and volume into the patient-oriented value and quality is waiting for a final decision.

If At least, some media pay attention to this flower of reform, people will feel empty as the past and current discussion has been time-consuming for sure.


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September 2, 2009 3:08 PM   

Obama’s health-care promises are being exposed by the details of the actual legislation, and we WILL see costs rise. Support the goal of covering all individuals through private health insurance! http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/issues/index.cfm?ID=300

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