Pelosi has said the same thing in the past, but with the fight over the public option reaching a fever pitch--and the White House signaling left and right that they're walking away from it--her renewed insistence is telling, and will no doubt come as encouraging news to progressives.

Bullshit

I like Nancy. Time for the House to assert leadership on this issue, and Nancy just did. Pass the house bill and dare the Senate Democrats to support a Republican filibuster at their own peril. Let 10 Democratic Senators from the red states vote no on the actual vote and let Biden's vote be vote 51. Gives political cover to those who feel they need it, and makes for great political theater.

Don't tread on TPM. The WH could have slid secretly around this and whomped everyone with the announcement as Obama makes it during the joint session. With this, they can gauge the reaction (as if they haven't had the time) and get you lazy ass progressives to come forward and ensure it happens.
Now some say Obama isn't serious in his "heart of hearts" for something like a real public option run by the government, so he could care less whether it happens or not. So we need to make him aware that it does need to happen, because to not have one means that there really isn't much purpose to whatever co-op, insurance-industry-approved bill comes out.
Then again, not having a public option may allow it some breathing room in the Senate to get passed and the real work begins later. Or, alternatively, they are working to get ONE, 1, Republican on board to call it bipartisan and kill it. Who knows.
We'll know on Wednesday after they gauge public reaction, have those people pressure their senators and representatives, then go before them and rally the troops.
Or it's all just bullshit and we're collectively going to become far more apathetic and it will be four years of hell. Strangely, I see this as the more probable option. But I'll fight it until it happens.

you know what? let the frakin' Senate pass a bill without a public option. When absolutely NO republicans vote for it, that will be a sign for the conference committee to say "fuck you" and liberalize the hell out of it for reconciliation.

Hell, can they turn it into single payer in conference?

At best, this progressive pushback will result in better terms for the trigger benchmarks and possibly having the trigger automatic rather than heading to another vote if triggered.

I think everyone is going too quickly down the garden path that is the short (OK, long) pier that Obama is leading the Republicans down. He will compromise and negotiate endlessly to give the Republicans ample opportunity to display their unwillingness to do anything but demagogue and then he will pass a bill with a robust public option.

Trigger? TRIGGER!? WTF!!
The trigger's been pulled the bullet's outta the gun and the victim has been SHOT!
Delayed reform is denied reform.

This is what a trigger says to the Insurance industry:

Do whatever you want, for two (maybe three years)

charge what you want, we'll force everyone to pay what you say, and we'll even help some of the poorest pay you with tax dollars. The rest are screwed. They pay, or they are fined.

Charge what you like, then we'll have competition.

Your verbal diarrhea merely reinforces the appearance of arrogant ignorance that you present. You don't have a clue what you're babbling about.

Politically you're also wrong, because "Medicare for ALL" is extremely simple to explain and thus would have been far easier to sell than this policy-wonk mishmash.

Dumbasses like you exemplify all that's wrong with the Democratic Party.

You go, Nancy! Stand your ground don't be wishy washy like President Obama

There will be a public option in the end, and if the White House didn't want it there, you can bet Pelosi wouldn't be putting on this show. Just like during the nomination race, Pelosi and Obama know the endgame but are putting the show they need to put on to get there.

Dear TPM,

Please don't put giant close up photos on the front page. They burn my eyes. That is all.

- Ohyea...

what i'm not entirely clear on: is pelosi talking about before or after conference?

seems to me there is no question that the house is going to pass a bill with a public option. saying that they will doesn't sound at all contoversial. however, that the senate would do the same seems very unlikely. and in that scenario i really don't see a public option emerging from conference.

the REAL question isn't whether or not the house will vote for a bill that includes the public option, but will the house vote for a bill that doesn't include a public option.