
A new ABC/Washington Post poll has some mixed news for public opinion on health care reform, but does show a positive sign for reformers in a narrowing of the intensity gap.
A lot of this all depends on how the question is asked. To start off, 46% of Americans approve of the health care proposals before Congress, with 48% opposed, compared to a 45%-50% gap last month. the poll also has 30% strongly approving, and 36% strongly disapproving, compared to a wider 27%-40% intensity gap last month.
Somewhat paradoxically, this poll finds a majority favoring the public option -- but overall support for health care reform goes up if it's taken out.
The poll asks this question: "Would you support or oppose having the government create a new health insurance plan to compete with private health insurance plans? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?" The poll finds 55% in favor to 42% against, with 33% strongly in favor to 31% strongly opposed.
On the other hand: "Say health care reform does NOT include the option of a government-sponsored health plan - in that case would you support or oppose the rest of the proposed changes to the health care system being developed by (Congress) and (the Obama administration)?"
The answer: Support 50%, Oppose 42% -- up from the original 46%-48% gap.
holyhandgrenaid
September 14, 2009 9:48 AM
Eric, your thesis here doesn't make much sense, and it stems from the fairly garbled wording of the poll. Nate Silver has taken it to task on this:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/when-you-assume-you-make-mess-out-of.html
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willia451
September 14, 2009 10:29 AM in reply to holyhandgrenaid
Agreed. If the poll is worded properly, with specificity as to exactly what the public option is, and is not, then it has overwhelming popular support.
We're going to find out in the coming months, just how corrupt our government really is. If they can't include and pass a plan that has a strong (but limited) public option in it (its not like we're asking for single payer) then they're worthless.
Progressives in the house are holding a "whip count" tomorrow on the public option.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/11/head-count-house-progress_n_283756.html
If they can get 39+ reps to sign on to voting "NO" on reform without a viable public plan, then reform is dead without it.
By my count, they should be able to get at least in between 50-60 (maybe more).
And I say good riddance; individual mandates without a viable strong public option is simply wrong. The insurance companies get it all, and we get stuck paying for everything.
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Indie Pro
September 14, 2009 10:38 AM in reply to willia451
I'm with ya!!
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traitorjoe
September 14, 2009 10:56 AM
So America wants the public option? And the media takes the side of the shrill right wing-corporate base? What's next, we won't find the WMDs?
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brewmn61
September 14, 2009 11:06 AM in reply to traitorjoe
The media really has been unconscionably bad on this (shocking, I know). Meet the Press yesterday was basically an hour of David Gregory playing devil' advocate against health care reform by utilizing every rightwing distortion available.
Yet not once did he make Gingrich, John Cornyn, et al. answer for the lies of those rightwingers. God, I wish we had a functioning press in this country.
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JNagarya
September 14, 2009 11:27 AM in reply to brewmn61
Local "news," not daring to find guts, said of Kenye West's stupidity at the video awards:
"It was SHOCKING!" -- and giving that a slight "It's funny!" twist.
No one dares label stupidity for what it is, let alone criticize it.
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wbgonne
September 14, 2009 11:23 AM
Yeah, where are political defenders of a pubic option? When the issue is discussed rationally we win. Where is the rational debate about its purpose and necessity?
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JohnMcCSF
September 14, 2009 11:37 AM
Somewhat paradoxically, this poll finds a majority favoring the public option -- but overall support for health care reform goes up if it's taken out.
If I've said it 10 times, I've said it 100. The public doesn't know'; is incapable of being educated, and thus does not care about the wonkish details of HCR
Moreover, the endless debate among democrats who seem especially prone to fits of wonkish angst, only confirms suspicions that the ruling party is incapable of governing
In such circumstances, I have said if 10 times, 100 - STFU and get a goddamn bill to conference
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wbgonne
September 14, 2009 1:35 PM in reply to JohnMcCSF
Are you suggesting that the PO can and will be added in conference?
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